Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Hi o, If you were to type the words Noni Juice into the search box at Google (http://www.google.com/ ) and visit all of the websites that turned up in the results you'd have many days worth of reading material. This product is marketed all over the world. Sales must still be good. These days, though, you won't find quite so many claims as to it's curative abilities. It used to be advertised as a cure for basically everything, from arthritis to cancer. There were quite a few court cases and lawsuits which have led to ... improvements. Below, I've pasted in an article from the DrugDigest website, which is a " noncommercial, evidence-based, consumer health and drug information site dedicated to empowering consumers to make informed choices about drugs and treatment options. " They're a reputable organization offering non-biased information. Probably better to read what they have to say, than hear my lots more biased opinion. This supplement has proven to be lots safer than many others that are available. Can't really hurt ... except in your wallet Take Care, Georgina o Salas wrote: > Hi, > > I was talking to a friend about my daughter's arthritis. She states > that she has something similar but she is an adult. She started taking > Noni juice. It is a juice that is made in Tahiti and that it helped her > alot. > Has anybody tried a natural supplement to see if it helps? I am worried > that if I give it to my 8 year old it may mess up the medication that > she is taking, but it may be worth it if the pain goes away and can > reduce the medication she takes. She takes predinosone (sp?), > methotrexate, folic acid, and naproxen. > > o Salas *************************************************88 Noni http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/DVH/HerbsTake/0,3927,552025%7CNoni,00.html Scientific Name: Morinda Other Names: Ba Ji Tian, Hog Apple, Indian Mulberry, Menkoedoe, Morinda citrifolia, Ruibardo Caribe, Wild Pine Who is this for? Uses Usually under the name Noni Juice, the juice of the morinda fruit was highly advertised during the 1990s as an anticancer agent. In animal studies, it has shown some ability to promote immune system activity and to repair damaged cells, but these effects have not yet been documented by well-controlled studies in humans. In the islands of Polynesia, morinda has been used to treat a wide variety of conditions that include asthma, digestive complaints, fevers, heart problems, and infections. The fruit juice has also been used to treat diabetes, high blood pressure, and jellyfish stings. Fresh morinda leaves were tied around joints to relieve arthritis pain or around the head to lessen a headache. A preparation of morinda roots was made into a salve for wounds and the fresh leaves were also used on burns and skin wounds. Traditional Chinese medicine uses the dried roots of morinda, known as ba ji tian in China, to remedy gastrointestinal and urinary tract conditions. An extract made from morinda leaves in alcohol is effective against some types of parasites that infect humans. When should I be careful taking it? The juice of the morinda fruit contains a high percentage of sugar, therefore individuals with diabetes should not use it. Because morinda fruit juice contains significant amounts of potassium, it may cause blood levels of potassium to become too high. Individuals who have kidney disorders may already be at risk of high potassium because kidney damage limits the kidneys ability to pass potassium out of the body. Too much potassium can result in a condition known as hyperkalemia, which may have no symptoms or may cause changes in heartbeat and pulse. Morinda should not be used by individuals with kidney disorders. Precautions Not enough is known about the possible effects of morinda on developing babies, infants, or small children to recommend its use. Therefore, pregnant and breast-feeding women and small children should not use it. What side effects should I watch for? No major side effects have been reported from the use of morinda. However, some of the chemicals in morinda fruit juice can change the color of urine to pink, orange, or brown. What interactions should I watch for? Prescription Drugs Morinda contains large amounts of potassium. If it is taken at the same time as drugs, such as amiloride, spironolactone, or triamterene, that keep the body from losing potassium, potassium levels may become too high, resulting in hyperkalemia. Although hyperkalemia may cause erratic pulse, irregular heartbeat, or nausea; it often occurs without any specific symptoms. It can be extremely dangerous, however. If you take any " potassium-sparing " drugs, you should not take morinda. If you are not sure whether any of your drugs are " potassium-sparing " , discuss them with your doctor or pharmacist before you take morinda. Non-prescription Drugs Morinda contains large amounts of potassium. If it is taken at the same time as potassium supplements or salt substitutes containing potassium, morinda may cause potassium levels to become too high, resulting in hyperkalemia. Although hyperkalemia may cause erratic pulse, irregular heartbeat, or nausea; it often occurs without any specific symptoms. It can be extremely dangerous, however. If you take any potassium supplements or you use a salt substitute that contains potassium, you should not take morinda. Herbal Products No interactions have been identified between morinda and other dietary supplements. Foods Although no reports of hyperkalemia from taking morinda while also eating foods high in potassium have been found in the medical literature, such a result may be possible. Foods high in potassium include apricots, bananas, milk, potatoes, spinach, and sweet potatoes. Orange, prune and tomato juices and dried beans, lentils, and peas are also high in potassium. Should I take it? Natives of the Polynesian islands use nearly every part of the morinda tree. They use the bark, leaves, fruits, leaves, roots, and seeds as foods or flavorings. Morinda bark and roots provide dyes and the bark formerly provided fibers for clothing and other material. For medicine, the fruit and fruit juice are used most, but leaves and roots have also been used at various times. Even the sludge left after juice extraction is applied to fields as fertilizer. Morinda grows as a bushy tree that is usually around 10 feet in height but it can be as tall as 25 feet. Native to the South Pacific islands, it now also grows in Australia, India, and other tropical parts of the world. An evergreen, it bears large, shiny leaves and small, white flowers, which develop on knobs at the ends of the branches. These knobs then become bumpy, fist-sized fruits that have a distinctively unpleasant smell and a bitter taste. The fruits have an initial greenish color that changes gradually to a pale yellow color as the fruits ripen. Morinda juice comes from fruits that have been allowed to ripen on the trees, then picked and placed in the sun to soften on open racks. Once the fruits are soft, they are put into sealed vats to ferment for about 8 weeks. After being separated from the solid residue in the tanks, the juice is bottled or dried to put into capsules. Dosage and Administration Typically, up to 10 ounces of morinda (noni) juice per day is taken for medicinal purposes. Despite a high content of sugar, the juice has a bitter taste and a strong smell that many people find offensive. In addition to a fruit juice, morinda is also sold as a dried extract in capsules or tablets ranging in strength from 200 mg to 600 mg. Extracts are concentrated preparations usually made by soaking chopped or mashed plant parts in a liquid such as alcohol, and then straining out the solid parts. In some cases, the liquid is then dried to powder form. In general, approximately 1,200 mg of morinda as liquid or powdered extract is considered to equal one ounce of morinda fruit juice. The effects that drying the juice might have on morinda’s medicinal value are not known. Summary Although many parts of the morinda plant have been used to treat multiple conditions for centuries in the South Sea Islands, the most common current use in western countries is to prevent and treat cancer. Some evidence does suggest that morinda juice can increase immune function and also help repair cell damage, but further studies are needed to prove these findings. Risks Morinda juice contains high amounts of potassium and sugar, making it inappropriate for use by individuals with diabetes or kidney disorders. Not enough is known about its effects to recommend it for pregnant or breast-feeding women or for young children. Side Effects No major side effects have been associated with using morinda, but it can cause a change in the color of urine. Interactions Because morinda contains a significant amount of potassium, taking it with drugs that keep potassium in the body or with drugs, supplements, or foods that also contain large amounts of potassium may lead to hyperkalemia. Note: The above information is not intended to replace the advice of your physician, pharmacist, or other healthcare professional. It is not meant to indicate that the use of the product is safe, appropriate, or effective for you. In general, herbal products are not subject to review or approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). They are not required to be standardized, meaning that the amounts of active ingredients or contaminants they contain may vary between brands or between different batches of the same brand. Not all of the risks, side effects, or interactions associated with the use of herbal products are known because few reliable studies of their use in humans have been done. This information is provided for your education only. Please share this information with your healthcare provider and be sure that you talk to your doctor and pharmacist about all the prescription and non-prescription medicines you take before you begin to use any herbal product. -- " Children learn to care by experiencing good care. " - L. Hymes, Jr. (1968) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 , I looked into this a while back and from what I remember it increases nitric oxide and if the research from Russia on Samter's is correct (the Russian study), we make too much nitric oxide already. I also seem to remember that it is also high in natural salicylates so if you are one of those following a low sal diet, this would be a no no. NM <tmiller1952@y...> wrote: > Has anyone ever tried this Noni Juice that is becoming so popular? I am looking for in put. I am thinking about it and just wondered if anyone in this group has any experience or know of anyone who has used it. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 I take something similar and it really doesn't help the Samter's at all. I seem to have a little more energy when I take it and I need all the help I can get. Rob Noni Juice Hello, Has anyone ever tried this Noni Juice that is becoming so popular? I amlooking for in put. I am thinking about it and just wondered if anyone inthis group has any experience or know of anyone who has used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hi Sal, I tried some when it first came to Australia, (before my CFS replase so I can't comment on how it effects CFS symptoms) It made me feel high/drugged for a couple of hours, after which I felt very yuk like a bad hangover. I Didn't like it at all and haven't tried it since. I'm very sensitive tho and have lots of allergies and MCS, so it may be just me. It's rather expensive and I wonder if there are cheaper alternatives which would do the job just as well. If you try it, let me know how you go. Regards, Jan sal_newby <Newbysally@...> wrote: > > Hi guys > > Has anyone here experience of taking noni juice? I ask > because the > tranq withdrawal counsellor I spoke to recommended it for > detoxing > from the drug - I've been checking out a couple of sites > on noni > juice and they have some testimonials from people with > CFS who have > taken noni and found improvement in their sysmptoms. > > If anyone has taken it, what dosage did you use and were > there any > side effects? > > Thanks > Sal > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Haven't tried it but just bought some and have it sitting here. Here's the one i tried b/c the other good one was MLM and i didn't feel like paying money to join when i have never yet tried it first: _http://store./iherb/nonijuice.html_ (http://store./iherb/nonijuice.html) . I will say when I discussed ciguatoxin epitope with Dr. Hokama and asked what we might do to try to filter out this ciguatoxin stuff he suggested noni and I thought, oh come on, noni? But I looked on Pubmed and see it has a number of studies, and does appear to help some cancer and word has it natives used it for poisonis fish stings, so could noni possibly stand up to cholestyramine? Who knows, but it is certainly worth anyone in here with neurotoxins (probably nearly everyone that is to say, hehe) should try it. I'd have tried it sooner but so many things to try and saving money and all but I will try it in near future now. I'd treat it sorta like cholestyramine and take more at first until you respond and then lower dosage. Maybe start with 1 oz morning and night and then after a few weeks go to just one ounce a day? I don't know and the dosage is probably very variable for everyone. Maybe twice what I just mentioned is good but you have to determine how much money you want to spend. Good luck. In a message dated 10/22/2004 6:31:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: Has anyone here experience of taking noni juice? I ask because the tranq withdrawal counsellor I spoke to recommended it for detoxing from the drug - I've been checking out a couple of sites on noni juice and they have some testimonials from people with CFS who have taken noni and found improvement in their sysmptoms. If anyone has taken it, what dosage did you use and were there any side effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Maybe allergy or bad reaction but remember, with cholestyramine, as you get the toxins out the body can go through herx at first. In a message dated 10/22/2004 6:31:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: I tried some when it first came to Australia, (before my CFS replase so I can't comment on how it effects CFS symptoms) It made me feel high/drugged for a couple of hours, after which I felt very yuk like a bad hangover. I Didn't like it at all and haven't tried it since. I'm very sensitive tho and have lots of allergies and MCS, so it may be just me. It's rather expensive and I wonder if there are cheaper alternatives which would do the job just as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Thanks to everyone with feedback on noni juice. I'll increase my dosage over the next few weeks and let you know how I get on. Sal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 > > Hi guys > > Has anyone here experience of taking noni juice? I ask because the > tranq withdrawal counsellor I spoke to recommended it for detoxing > from the drug - I've been checking out a couple of sites on noni > juice and they have some testimonials from people with CFS who have > taken noni and found improvement in their sysmptoms. > > If anyone has taken it, what dosage did you use and were there any > side effects? > > Thanks > Sal My experience with noni juice has been positive. I usually take about one liquid ounce a day. Most of the time I take it in late afternoon, but that varies. It gives me a slight euphoric high and about a 10% boost in energy. The results for me are good but not overly dramatic and some days I entirely forget to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 I'm on my 3rd month/bottle. I usually react quickly to all types of substances but this took about 30 days. I kept with it only because i bought 3 bottles on special. It has definitly made a difference, but more with depression. I stopped taking the juice, 2 Tablespoons in AM, a couple of times and both times had kick back with depression and mood swings. I'm already on an antidepressant; it seems to augment it and I plan to keep with it. Have not noticed any kind of high, unless more stablity with moods count. -- anne > > Hi guys > > Has anyone here experience of taking noni juice? I ask because the > tranq withdrawal counsellor I spoke to recommended it for detoxing > from the drug - I've been checking out a couple of sites on noni > juice and they have some testimonials from people with CFS who have > taken noni and found improvement in their sysmptoms. > > If anyone has taken it, what dosage did you use and were there any > side effects? > > Thanks > Sal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 When I try it I am going to take it sublingually and then swallow it, hoping sublingually will get more in the body. In a message dated 10/23/2004 4:17:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: My experience with noni juice has been positive. I usually take about one liquid ounce a day. Most of the time I take it in late afternoon, but that varies. It gives me a slight euphoric high and about a 10% boost in energy. The results for me are good but not overly dramatic and some days I entirely forget to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 hi it was a hot thing to take a few years ago on this list so u may wnt to try the arvhives..i took it and it was suppose to help communciaiton between the neruotransimiters but i stopped as it was expensive and didnt feel any major gain oaver a long period of tiem using it ...the suppliers mlm get rich on it tealk > [Original Message] > From: sal_newby <Newbysally@...> > < > > Date: 10/22/2004 3:58:00 AM > Subject: noni juice > > > > Hi guys > > Has anyone here experience of taking noni juice? I ask because the > tranq withdrawal counsellor I spoke to recommended it for detoxing > from the drug - I've been checking out a couple of sites on noni > juice and they have some testimonials from people with CFS who have > taken noni and found improvement in their sysmptoms. > > If anyone has taken it, what dosage did you use and were there any > side effects? > > Thanks > Sal > > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Joe, Noni juice has a few glyconutrients in there and so you should receive some benefit. you would receive more benefit from the advanced ambrotose which has all 8 of the necessary plant sugars that your cells needs for proper communication. I know it costs around $25.00 to $30.00 a bottle which last 1 month. Adv. AMbrotose is twice that much nut has all of the neccesary sugars, and also is mfg. with good mfg. practices, has scientific validation and also uses safe tested raw materials. If you buy the noni, check the mfg. practices of the company, and any validating research they may have, and the raw materials they use. SOme of these things can cause more harm then good if not safe ingredients. big2be20012002 wrote: > > Has anyone ever tried noni juice? I heard it is good for fibromyalgia > type pains, migraines, MS symptoms. Sounds perfect for lymies, if > only that's true. > > Just looking for other's experiences. > > Thanks > Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Noni juice is awesome. nathala sue deaver <nathalasuedeaver@...> wrote:i also take noni juice daily as well as 4 oz of KT. the bottles the noni comes in are great for storage of KT. noni has many healing faculties read more at tni.com, order directly on toll free number and it is sent directly to you. just as well get the 4 bottle case and have some for family and friends. use #2010682, so it will be sent out to you that number is necessary without you having to sign up yourself any questions call me and i'll call you back on my dime.... ____________________________________________________ Sell on Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yes - I have tried it and it did nothing for me.(was on it for about 6 months) [ ] Noni Juice Has anyone here heard of or tried Noni juice??My sister says it is supposed to help arthritis sufferers. Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 My husband gave it a 30-day try and didn't notice that it helped anything. It may take longer to take effect or maybe it just didn't work for him, hard to say. Krista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Nope ..I have not , but some one told me it tastes AWFUL ....beyond that I can't help ..sorry :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Hi I have tried it and it is a great antioxidant. But if you take it too concentrated it will give you the runs. : 0 You can buy it in tea bags at any asian food market place really cheap. : ) best regards, > > Anyone tried Noni juice to relieve lyme symptoms? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 has any one heard about Noni juice. Im getting so meny good reports on it, I thought I menion it, on the site. One of the patient is the group is on it he PSA gone from 400 somthing to around a blood PSA of about 40 in only a few month he also had bone mets but is now in no pain he loooks good to, He been on vitamin C IV once a month also on pure baking soda and water 3 x a day. 1/2 a tsp to bring his PH up . also, he is doing walnut tincture I dont know why they call them that as there green and pure un pasturized) noni juice this is a bit on it from cancer tutor http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Noni.html Like grape juice, Noni juice contains a whole slew of cancer fighting nutrients. It kills cancer cells (the anthraquinone damnacanthal and the trace element selenium), it stops the spread of cancer (beta sitosterol, noni-ppt and limonene), it stimulates the white blood cells and other parts of the immunity system (polysaccharides) and takes part in a process that enlarges cell membranes so they can better absorb nutrients (proxeronine aids in creating xeronine). And this is only a partial list! all the best ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Yes, I researched Noni a lot some years ago, and in fact became a distributor for the one I bought, but never actually did any distributing. It was one made kind of like a wine, which I felt was a good way to go. From what I gathered, convenience of harvest, transport and manufacture dictate that a particular kind of fruit is collected and transported to North America, where it is processed. I think it is usually freeze dried. My recollection is that a likely more effective product would be made from a riper fruit, but apparently it stinks so much that you just wouldn't want one in your garden (and it might not travel too well in the hold of your ship). I had no difficulty taking the one I got (will go and check what it was called; I still have one or two bottles, and discovered a partially consumed one in the fridge which I finished only a couple of weeks ago.) Yes, here it is. Just one bottle left, and it is called Hawaiian Pure Noni Juice (The Essence for Natural Health). It's produced in a fermentation process. However, I haven't continued my researches. At the time I had friends and relatives with cancer, and researched and bought several varieties. I also noticed a container of Noni capsules the other day, which I will probably get out and take. Something rather interesting about it. At the time, my health buddy and I went to my homeopath and had electrodermal diagnostic screening. They can test for whether your medications etc. suit you. We tested the Noni, and it suited me fine, but it was not suitable for my friend. Like any other product, people can get a bit crazy about it, and there were people in Perth, Australia, pushing it hard at the time. I never hear much about it now, but that doesn't mean it's no good. As a kind of folk remedy, I would give it respect, and I did in fact give it a go. Just kind of got busy and forgot it. I'm not up to date on Noni, but I was extremely impressed at the time. Rowena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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