Re: Blood electrification

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[bloodelectrification] blood electrification

From: mforrest@...

Hi. I was able to eliminate the virus I had for 16 years which caused

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome by using a relay-type Beck blood electrification

unit that I built. Then I knew I had to promote this bio-technology since I

was both an electronics technician and had studied natural healing for at

least 10 years and had much experience with different methods. So then I

created the web site for Dragonfly Enterprises which became Jaguar

Enterprises. I sell a Black Box that is just like Sota's except that it also

offers a 100hz setting which eliminates the problem of transfection

(mislabeled electroporation) for those who want to continue taking herbs or

drugs (medications). I just found out about this list and would like to be

of benifit to those here who are using this technology and want to promote

it for the good of mankind. I thank God for having this business for many

reasons and hope that it is helping to slowly change societies 'mindset'

concerning health and alternative therapies. My company also sells Rife

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Looks like another job for the files, BJ. Maybe 1,2,3 instructions, by the

number, for those who just came onboard, so they won't have to read all the old

posts. (Although they would certainly get a valuable education by doing so.

Dick

blood electrification

does anyone have operating sugestions using a [godzilla] blood

electifer that the plans to build one are on the message board?

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Operating instructions leave one open to lawsuits, since it's not

approved for human use.

There are even some small but serious risks that are not as serious

as injuries sustained while reading.

bG

> Looks like another job for the files, BJ. Maybe 1,2,3 instructions,

by the number, for those who just came onboard, so they won't have to

read all the old posts. (Although they would certainly get a valuable

education by doing so.

>

> Dick

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: gslburris <gslburris@m...>

>

> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:35 PM

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In the group:

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there are files, which also include usage tips from various others.

bG

> > Looks like another job for the files, BJ. Maybe 1,2,3

instructions,

> by the number, for those who just came onboard, so they won't have

to

> read all the old posts. (Although they would certainly get a

valuable

> education by doing so.

> >

> > Dick

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: gslburris <gslburris@m...>

> >

> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:35 PM

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I understand. I guess one could explain how he used it, and the results noticed,

while not recommending it to others. But I'm no lawyer. (Thank heavens!)

Dick

Re: blood electrification

Operating instructions leave one open to lawsuits, since it's not

approved for human use.

There are even some small but serious risks that are not as serious

as injuries sustained while reading.

bG

> Looks like another job for the files, BJ. Maybe 1,2,3 instructions,

by the number, for those who just came onboard, so they won't have to

read all the old posts. (Although they would certainly get a valuable

education by doing so.

>

> Dick

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: gslburris <gslburris@m...>

>

> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:35 PM

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the gist of it is that electricity does have some potentials in

healing. But it's not technically accurate, more like a news story.

bG

> The Story of Blood Electrification

> The Story of Blood Electrification ©

>

> By Ken Adachi

> http://educate-yourself.org/be/

>

>

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Yes to oxone, and do 15 min on the blood electrifier. Olif <OVanPelt@...> wrote: I started blood electrification last night. I did 30 min. When I stopped, I was a bit dizzy. Is this normal? I also woke up around 1 and couldn't get back to sleep (I have been doing that at times anyway). I think my liver is probably having a difficult time dealing with elimination. Would the ozonated water

help with this? Thanks, Olif

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Yes to oxone, and do 15 min on the blood electrifier. Olif <OVanPelt@...> wrote: I started blood electrification last night. I did 30 min. When I stopped, I was a bit dizzy. Is this normal? I also woke up around 1 and couldn't get back to sleep (I have been doing that at times anyway). I think my liver is probably having a difficult time dealing with elimination. Would the ozonated water

help with this? Thanks, Olif

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You probably were getting too much electricity. Turn

down the control to where you don't feel the electricity.

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Thank you and ! I am going to try 15 min. tonight. I thought I am supposed to feel the electricity though (as long as it isn't uncomfortable). Is that not right?

Thanks,

Olif

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well, it varies from person to person, but for most

people when they feel the electricity they are getting

too much. Best to measure what you are getting with a

resistor and voltmeter. The AC voltage across a 1K

resistor (in series) should be around .13 volts.

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If you will do the blood analysis right after DC blood electrification you will

see that it causes temporary blood cell clumping which AC " Beck " blood

electrification does not. I am the originator of DC blood electrification but no

longer advocate it because it is inferior to using alternating current.

 

To read cancer healing testimonies by using blood electrification go to

www.dragonfly75.com/eng/cancer.html and click on the first link.

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Hi .What is the difference between a DC and an AC unit?

I have a so called Beck unit that works on batteries ,does that mean it is DC ?

On the link/thread provided on this post,you seem to indicate that you use the

DC unit,is this a misprint or mistake ?

Best regards and thank you for the reply.

Guy

>

> If you will do the blood analysis right after DC blood electrification you

will see that it causes temporary blood cell clumping which AC " Beck " blood

electrification does not. I am the originator of DC blood electrification but no

longer advocate it because it is inferior to using alternating current.

>  

> To read cancer healing testimonies by using blood electrification go to

www.dragonfly75.com/eng/cancer.html and click on the first link.

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I have a 27volt DC (9V x 3)battery operated blood electrifier. When i use it, i

switch polarity every 5 minutes for 15 minutes. Will this still cause blood

cell clumping?

Thanks.

melly

> >

> > If you will do the blood analysis right after DC blood electrification you

will see that it causes temporary blood cell clumping which AC " Beck " blood

electrification does not. I am the originator of DC blood electrification but no

longer advocate it because it is inferior to using alternating current.

> >  

> > To read cancer healing testimonies by using blood electrification go to

www.dragonfly75.com/eng/cancer.html and click on the first link.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>Hi .What is the difference between a DC and an AC unit?

I have a so called Beck unit that works on batteries ,does that mean it is DC ?

......... Guy

>

DC is " direct current " . AC is " alternating current " , in other words its

direction alternates 180 degrees (it goes back and forth).

Beck blood electrifiers, though powered by batteries, are AC devices.

I advocate use of the DC Electrifier against tumors. This is not blood

electrification. These are the 6 actions direct current has against tumors:

changing the PH in tissues close to

the electrodes*,

changing an enzyme that the cancer cells need

to reproduce**,

toxifying the tumor with oxygen that is produced

by

electrolysis,

changing the transmembrane voltage in the cancerous cells,

producing

tumor-damaging toxins from the electrochemical reactions,

and

stimulating the cellular and humoral

components of the immune system.

* Tissue becomes excessively acidic close to the positive electrode, and more

alkaline close to the negative electrode

** The enzyme ribonucleotide reductase (RR)

controls the

synthesis of DNA precursors and thus plays a pivotal role in cell

growth

DC electrotherapy was called galvanotherapy in the early 1900's and was the most

common form of treatment for tumors, moles, hemorroids, bacteria, and fungus.

Then the fucking AMA came into existence and made the medical schools stop

teaching galvanotherapy by threatening to make them lose their accreditation.

Drugs became highly promoted and electrotherapy fell by the wayside because it

was no longer " the fad " . Galvanotherapy, which has a 70% success rate against

tumors was replaced by chemotherapy which has a 7% success rate.

Albert Einstein said: " Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and

more violent. It takes a touch of genius -

and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction. "

Galvanotherapy is the epitome of small/non-complex which is also one reason it

fell to the wayside.

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There's already a long history of blood electrification success against cancer.

Just go to www.barbfeick.com/bobbeck/ and click on cancer on the left hand

column. And email me if you want to know the best/cheapest source for blood

electrifiers. I can attest to their safety since after 2 months of using it I

had my blood analyzed and the doctor said my blood was as healthy as any blood

he had ever seen. But electrification of tumors is rather new to me although it

has been used on over 10,000 patients in China, is used in German cancer

clinics, and was the normal medical treatment in the early 1900's in the USA. Dr

Dowling here in Ecuador has seen it do marvelous things on his patients with

cancer. He can be emailed at ncitusa@... him about Forrest's

tumor electrification device.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike,

I am sorry, I did not have much time to ask earlier.

When you say " clumping " " immediately " after electrifying and

" temporary " , could you be a more specific?

I had the DFM test within three hours after having 4.5V through my leg,

knee to sole for an hour. The sets showed no clumping of any kind.

- Did you mean clumping as in stacking, or some other form?

- What DC voltage, amperage did you see causing the clumping?

- How soon after the application

- How long before it dispersed, if at all

With kind regards, Slavek.

[Guest guest]

I have all of Bob beck devices. but I did not know it could be use against

cancer I cant under stand this I was told blood electrification was not a

success against cancer. I did not know there  useing it in china . learn some

thing new every day Ray 

There's already a long history of blood electrification success against

cancer. Just go to www.barbfeick.com/bobbeck/ and click on cancer on the left

hand column. And email me if you want to know the best/cheapest source for blood

electrifiers. I can attest to their safety since after 2 months of using it I

had my blood analyzed and the doctor said my blood was as healthy as any blood

he had ever seen. But electrification of tumors is rather new to me although it

has been used on over 10,000 patients in China, is used in German cancer

clinics, and was the normal medical treatment in the early 1900's in the USA. Dr

Dowling here in Ecuador has seen it do marvelous things on his patients with

cancer. He can be emailed at ncitusagmail (DOT) comAsk him about Forrest's

tumor electrification device.

[Guest guest]

I doubt that such slow reversing of current (every 5 minutes) will prevent blood

cell clumping.

I had my blood analyzed immediately after stopping the 1 hour session of DC

blood electrification and the blood cells were very much all stacked on end,

like 10 to a clump. 15 minutes later there was about 25% as much clumping

together. So the clumping effect lasts mostly just as long as you are

electrifying the blood with DC. Beck said " DC wrecks the blood. " (his exact

words) I tested it for 3 months and stopped the test when I became extremely

chemically sensitive because of something it did to the blood. It took a month

to return to normal. For fighting colds and flu it is OK but not for long term

use.

The tumor electrification device is not a Beck device. It is something I created

after reading about the same being used in the German cancer clinics. A beck

device fights cancer by fighting the cancer-causing bacteria and virus in the

blood. A tumor electrifier fights tumors by creating excess acidity where they

are. That's why such devices have been called " electro-chemical treatment " (ECT)

devices. Acidity in the body is attracted to the positive electrode. Alkalinity

is attracted to the negative electrode but has no negative impact on the healthy

tissue because the electrode is very large and spreads it out so that it is not

concentrated. The electrodes could be reversed to alkalinize the tumor but the

negative electric current bites like hell and needs to be on the large electrode

to spread out the current so it don't bite. The " biting " is the skin being

burned by the current. The arrangement I use avoids that.

>I have a 27volt DC (9V x 3)battery operated blood electrifier. When i use it, i

switch polarity every 5 minutes for 15 minutes. Will this still cause blood cell

clumping?

>I have all of Bob beck devices. but I did not know it could be use against

cancer I cant under stand this I was told blood electrification was not a

success against cancer. I did not know there useing it in china . learn some

thing new every day Ray

[Guest guest]

Thank you Mike for the information. Another question, will my 27v DC blood

electrifier help me if i used it on carpal tunnel? I got this very annoying

pain and it is a bit inflamed.

Thanks.

>

> I doubt that such slow reversing of current (every 5 minutes) will prevent

blood cell clumping.

>

> I had my blood analyzed immediately after stopping the 1 hour session of DC

blood electrification and the blood cells were very much all stacked on end,

like 10 to a clump. 15 minutes later there was about 25% as much clumping

together. So the clumping effect lasts mostly just as long as you are

electrifying the blood with DC. Beck said " DC wrecks the blood. " (his exact

words) I tested it for 3 months and stopped the test when I became extremely

chemically sensitive because of something it did to the blood. It took a month

to return to normal. For fighting colds and flu it is OK but not for long term

use.

>

> The tumor electrification device is not a Beck device. It is something I

created after reading about the same being used in the German cancer clinics. A

beck device fights cancer by fighting the cancer-causing bacteria and virus in

the blood. A tumor electrifier fights tumors by creating excess acidity where

they are. That's why such devices have been called " electro-chemical treatment "

(ECT) devices. Acidity in the body is attracted to the positive electrode.

Alkalinity is attracted to the negative electrode but has no negative impact on

the healthy tissue because the electrode is very large and spreads it out so

that it is not concentrated. The electrodes could be reversed to alkalinize the

tumor but the negative electric current bites like hell and needs to be on the

large electrode to spread out the current so it don't bite. The " biting " is the

skin being burned by the current. The arrangement I use avoids that.

>

> >I have a 27volt DC (9V x 3)battery operated blood electrifier. When i use it,

i switch polarity every 5 minutes for 15 minutes. Will this still cause blood

cell clumping?

>

> >I have all of Bob beck devices. but I did not know it could be use against

cancer I cant under stand this I was told blood electrification was not a

success against cancer. I did not know there useing it in china . learn some

thing new every day Ray

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>

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[Guest guest]

Randall, there are viruses and bacteria (mostly from dental infections

) that can cause or contribute to the cancer process. Electric current applied

to the blood kills the bacteria and stops the infectivity of viruses. If a virus

can't enter into a human cell then it can't damage its DNA to make it an

abnormal cancer cell. Also by helping the immune system fight the microbes in

the blood you relieve the immune system from that extra task so it can better

focus on tumors. Some cancer patients have blood so infected that they have to

start out with only 5 or 10 minutes blood electrification daily to avoid too

much die-off symptoms. You wouldn't be able to tell they were very infected just

by looking at them either. Blood electrification does what nothing else does and

should be considered one of the prime ways to fight cancer.

You wrote:

>Hi and thanks , though I know this to be true as I read it in others

papers, I just don't under stand the mechanism behind it, I under stand the way

blood electrification works on virus but not on cancer on virus blood

electrification  distort the virus so much it can not get attached to and go

inside cells this is how it helps with HIV. The only way. I can see it working

on cancer cells is it must have a reaction and destroy  the microbe that in all

cancer cells tumors. Ray Randall