Re: garlic... my experience

[Guest guest]

Well aren't you special. Yes I agree some people are stupid. When you have

severe menstual cramps monthly and can get absolutely no relief but to take

some form of aspirin, then write me back. Garlic sure ain't going to help

it I can tell you that. Perhaps getting some water at some point in your

race might have helped that situation but I find it astounding that you

attribute that problem to a single aspirin. A single aspirin? Get

real.................

" My blood pressure is in the range of 96/62, which I consider to be near

optimal.

My resting heart rate is 43. When I sleep I breathe about 7 times a

minute. This is

nothing special and not anything any better than anyone else can do.

It is just normal, or at least what should be considered normal for

everyone else.... "

And where are the statistics to support this claim? Someone who believes

one aspirin almost killed them is not the person I wish to be taking my

medical information from.

And who said I trust and put my entire life in the hands of medical

personnel? Did I say that? I must have missed that somehow. I believe I

have been very clear on this list that I do NOT want to have much to do

with medical personnel nor do I wish to go to any hospital, NOR do I wish

to have them remove my gallbladder as my Mother was infected by hospital

personnel with C-Dif and now has Chron's Disease. So YOU shouldn't jump to

conclusions or read more carefully!

Becky

At 09:19 AM 08/23/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>It is amazing that some people still listen -- and trust to put

>their entire lives and savings in the hands of the medical-chemical

>industry that continues to make them so sick in the first place.

>

>A couple of things come to mind. Pardon me but one is that there

>are a lot of very stupid people in the world. The second is that when if

>someone knows jumping off a cliff is dangerous and they do it anyway

>then they are begging the obvious. Maybe they don't deserve what

>they got... but they got what they asked for.

>

>An example of this is the choice between taking aspirin.. and eating

>garlic.

>

>I will share my own experience with this. When I was in high school

>someone gave me the not very bright idea to take an aspirin before a

>cross country race. Well before I was half done it was hurting my stomach

>and making me sick. By the time the race was over my mouth was all

>dried up and I was having a hard time getting any moisture in my mouth.

>Besides that it was miserable and my worst race of the season.

>

>I am 56 now and have never again not even once taken an aspirin since that

>time.

>

>I exercise every morning and have been averaging 140 km a week rowing on

>my rowing machine or running, which is about 87 miles a week of exercise.

>

>As to garlic, I often blend it with water and drink it quite copiously in the

>afternoons and evenings. And I have made it a habit to ALWAYS do this before

>a half marathon race or a time trial the next morning. This drink

>consists of at

>least 3 or 4 large cloves of garlic in water, one clove per drink, that I

>drink from

>the previous afternoon to at night. Sometimes I drink this every night of

>the week.

>Other times only a couple of times a week, but always the night before a

>hard effort.

>

>Now if I can do this and it is my PREFERRED method then it is surely not

>causing

>any problems with my blood! To the contrary this garlic is a FOOD and is

>a good

>benefit and an asset to my well being and this is why I eat and drink it

>this way.

>

>As to the morning of a hard effort I usually drink fresh ginger root in

>water this same

>way. Usually the ginger I have only once a week, unless I have an

>inclination for more.

>

>My blood pressure is in the range of 96/62, which I consider to be near

>optimal.

>My resting heart rate is 43. When I sleep I breathe about 7 times a

>minute. This is

>nothing special and not anything any better than anyone else can do.

>

>It is just normal, or at least what should be considered normal for

>everyone else

>who is not buying into and taking all the drugs and other chemicals that

>are making them

>sick in the first place.

>

>Personally I like seeing people well and happy. That is why I am writing

>this message.

>

>You can look around and SEE that medical-chemical industry does NOT have your

>best interests at heart. They don't care what happens to you. Just take

>a look at them

>and you can SEE this.

>

>Use your intuition and you can see this very well.

>

>Don't ask them to " explain " it to you. They can't do that

>

>But YOU can see it very well for yourself. Just trust what you feel and

>do it and

>don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know why you should take the post so personally. IMO, was

stating his experiences and opinions, not purporting to be a " medical "

authority.

Hello,

I definitely agree. I really enjoyed 's experiences with garlic because

I know that it's theraputic, plus just downright good in your foods. I wish

that my blood pressure was as good as his.

If someone's have a PMS attack, or cramps or whatever, they can take

something to stop them, but they can still either eat garlic in their foods

or take extra.

One thing too, I am a person who can't ever take aspirin, so that leaves me

out of taking it anyway. I never have headaches. If I did, I'd have to take

Motrin or something, I guess, and it would really mean that I'm sick. But

I've read in Dr. Lee's menopause book that willowbark is better than taking

aspirin and aspirin comes from willowbark, just that aspirin's put through a

chemical process. If the willowbark doesn't cause stomach irritation like

aspirin, why not take it instead? I think that you can buy it at some health

food stores.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi Becky,

Did I miss something? The post you responded to was sent to the whole group,

for the purpose stated:

" Personally I like seeing people well and happy. That is why I am writing this

message. "

I don't know why you should take the post so personally. IMO, was stating

his experiences and opinions, not purporting to be a " medical " authority.

Comments like:

" Get real................. "

don't serve any helpful purpose, and cause problems among list members. You're

opinion here is welcome, but please state it politely.

Thank you,

Adrienne-moderator

" Dog Bows, Ear Glue and Homemade Soap " wrote:Well aren't you special. Yes I

agree some people are stupid. When you have

severe menstual cramps monthly and can get absolutely no relief but to take

some form of aspirin, then write me back. Garlic sure ain't going to help

it I can tell you that. Perhaps getting some water at some point in your

race might have helped that situation but I find it astounding that you

attribute that problem to a single aspirin. A single aspirin? Get

real.................

" My blood pressure is in the range of 96/62, which I consider to be near

optimal.

My resting heart rate is 43. When I sleep I breathe about 7 times a

minute. This is

nothing special and not anything any better than anyone else can do.

It is just normal, or at least what should be considered normal for

everyone else.... "

And where are the statistics to support this claim? Someone who believes

one aspirin almost killed them is not the person I wish to be taking my

medical information from.

And who said I trust and put my entire life in the hands of medical

personnel? Did I say that? I must have missed that somehow. I believe I

have been very clear on this list that I do NOT want to have much to do

with medical personnel nor do I wish to go to any hospital, NOR do I wish

to have them remove my gallbladder as my Mother was infected by hospital

personnel with C-Dif and now has Chron's Disease. So YOU shouldn't jump to

conclusions or read more carefully!

Becky

At 09:19 AM 08/23/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>It is amazing that some people still listen -- and trust to put

>their entire lives and savings in the hands of the medical-chemical

>industry that continues to make them so sick in the first place.

>

>A couple of things come to mind. Pardon me but one is that there

>are a lot of very stupid people in the world. The second is that when if

>someone knows jumping off a cliff is dangerous and they do it anyway

>then they are begging the obvious. Maybe they don't deserve what

>they got... but they got what they asked for.

>

>An example of this is the choice between taking aspirin.. and eating

>garlic.

>

>I will share my own experience with this. When I was in high school

>someone gave me the not very bright idea to take an aspirin before a

>cross country race. Well before I was half done it was hurting my stomach

>and making me sick. By the time the race was over my mouth was all

>dried up and I was having a hard time getting any moisture in my mouth.

>Besides that it was miserable and my worst race of the season.

>

>I am 56 now and have never again not even once taken an aspirin since that

>time.

>

>I exercise every morning and have been averaging 140 km a week rowing on

>my rowing machine or running, which is about 87 miles a week of exercise.

>

>As to garlic, I often blend it with water and drink it quite copiously in the

>afternoons and evenings. And I have made it a habit to ALWAYS do this before

>a half marathon race or a time trial the next morning. This drink

>consists of at

>least 3 or 4 large cloves of garlic in water, one clove per drink, that I

>drink from

>the previous afternoon to at night. Sometimes I drink this every night of

>the week.

>Other times only a couple of times a week, but always the night before a

>hard effort.

>

>Now if I can do this and it is my PREFERRED method then it is surely not

>causing

>any problems with my blood! To the contrary this garlic is a FOOD and is

>a good

>benefit and an asset to my well being and this is why I eat and drink it

>this way.

>

>As to the morning of a hard effort I usually drink fresh ginger root in

>water this same

>way. Usually the ginger I have only once a week, unless I have an

>inclination for more.

>

>My blood pressure is in the range of 96/62, which I consider to be near

>optimal.

>My resting heart rate is 43. When I sleep I breathe about 7 times a

>minute. This is

>nothing special and not anything any better than anyone else can do.

>

>It is just normal, or at least what should be considered normal for

>everyone else

>who is not buying into and taking all the drugs and other chemicals that

>are making them

>sick in the first place.

>

>Personally I like seeing people well and happy. That is why I am writing

>this message.

>

>You can look around and SEE that medical-chemical industry does NOT have your

>best interests at heart. They don't care what happens to you. Just take

>a look at them

>and you can SEE this.

>

>Use your intuition and you can see this very well.

>

>Don't ask them to " explain " it to you. They can't do that

>

>But YOU can see it very well for yourself. Just trust what you feel and

>do it and

>don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I bought fresh organic garlic this week and a garlic press, determined to get

more garlic in my foods. Last nite was my first nite, and i cooked scrambled

eggs with three garlic cloves, which i ate with some fresh grapefruit slices

and a couple slices of bacon. By the middle of the nite, i had the worst

lower back pain and the runs that lasted all nite long.....is it possible to

use too much or could i be supersensitive to garlic? It has made me wonder

and decided not to cook my spagetti sauce with garlic tonite. Any thoughts,

Jill

[Guest guest]

Jill,

I personally don't feel that garlic played the roll at all. Did you eat pork

bacon? That is a huge clue. Any kind of pork and certain foods play havoc

with your liver and GB.

Let me quote you something from one of Dr. Cabot's books entitled, " The

Healthy Liver & Bowel Book, " pg. 106:

" The most powerful natural antibiotic for the gut is, you guessed it, RAW

garlic. Oh no you say, not that again! If you can manage to eat 4 to 6

cloves every day for 4 weeks you will be amazed at the creatures that can be

eradicated and expelled from your bowels. Garlic is able to kill bacteria,

parasites and yeasts. If you have a klarge overgrowth, even higher doses may

be required... "

Also, Jill, if you'll read at Dr. Mercola's website, you'll see that pork in

any shape or form is not fit for human consumption. I personally agree with

that, myself. Of course, I don't eat pork also for the higher reason of

eating pork, which I won't talk about. But it's like saying to me, If you

want to eat a rat, then eat a rat...gross!!! About the same, actually. Dr.

Cabot, who is a liver doctor specialist, does agree that pork is very bad for

your digestive system. Of course, our creator tells us so. Pigs have a very

important purpose, they eat our garbage. And they'll also eat people too!

Then again, people don't think about that. If they're hungry enough, they'll

eat you! Do you want to eat something that eats other people, or could eat

other people? I'm just asking.

As far as your garlic use, try juicing it into your fresh-made juice first

like carrot juice or whatever you have, a little at a time. Then I have a

salad dressing recipe that is so good with fresh-pressed garlic. I'm happy

to share it with you personally. Garlic can be added in so many ways. you

can press it fresh on your veggies without cooking the garlic into them if

you want it fresh. There's just all kinds of ways to take it. At first,

garlic is strong, but then you'll get so used to it that it won't be strong

anymore. While you first started out with a couple of cloves, you could

easily do three or four.

BTW, the garlic was probably reducing the bacteria in your system. I had

this happen and just thought of it. After I first started it, several days

later, I passed some white net-looking stuff, which I know had to be yeast.

It was after that time that my thumbnail, which was horrible looking with

green streaks in it and couldn't grow for 28-plus years, started to get

better and become normal again. So if you've got a nail fungus, forget it

with garlic. It will heal it completely.

Take care,

Susie

[Guest guest]

Have you eaten eggs with no problems up til now?

Generally for most eggs are a " no no " with gall bladder

problems...even my MD told me that. I stopped eating

them and noticed a big difference. It will be a good test

for me, when I can eat them again, it will hopefully

mean that my gall bladder is clean enough to function

properly. You may have experienced a cleanse of some

kind with the garlic, all of us are different and anything

is possible, it's one of those things that you can't answer

easily without testing it.

L. Meydrech

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----- Original Message -----

From: <bungalojil@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:58 PM

Subject: Re: garlic... my experience

> I bought fresh organic garlic this week and a garlic press, determined to

get

> more garlic in my foods. Last nite was my first nite, and i cooked

scrambled

> eggs with three garlic cloves, which i ate with some fresh grapefruit

slices

> and a couple slices of bacon. By the middle of the nite, i had the worst

> lower back pain and the runs that lasted all nite long.....is it possible

to

> use too much or could i be supersensitive to garlic? It has made me

wonder

> and decided not to cook my spagetti sauce with garlic tonite. Any

thoughts,

> Jill

[Guest guest]

Have you eaten eggs with no problems up til now?

Generally for most eggs are a " no no " with gall bladder

problems...even my MD told me that. I stopped eating

them and noticed a big difference.

Hi, ,

Eggs were always bad for me, too, until just recently. I'm getting to where

I can eat a few of them. There are even several places on the Internet at

medical website from doctors that talk about eggs being a thing that people

with GB problems trigger attacks.

Susie

[Guest guest]

eat eggs sunny side up a dozen at a time a couple of times a week with no

problems at all. The trick is however to only eat the egg white. Scoop out

and throw away all of the yellow. That is what contains the deadly

cholesterol that sets off the gall bladder attacks. You can eat the yellow

drippings on each egg, but do not eat the big round piece of yellow.

And so it goes

Hello,

Problem is that the cholesterol in the eggs is not deadly. Also, they are

very healthy foods, but even sometimes healthy foods triggers GB attacks.

Dale, who is on here all the time, couldn't eat cabbage because it triggered

an attack in him. But now he can. Some people who have GB problems have no

problems with eggs at all. But many people do. Everyone's different.

Susie

[Guest guest]

I'd like to fit a flush in in September,

have to figure out when. I have had quite a busy summer

and haven't been able to do one since March. Lots of

stress going around here, and think it best not to overstress

the body along with outside stress

,

I too need a cleanse. I haven't done once since Feb. I think that I can eat

some eggs now because of the Beta-TCP and then taking magnesium citrate

capsules. I try to limit my egg intake, but I've noticed that scrambled eggs

don't bother me at all. I won't try the fried eggs, no way!

Susie

[Guest guest]

Heteph there,

I eat eggs sunny side up a dozen at a time a couple of times a week with no

problems at all. The trick is however to only eat the egg white. Scoop out

and throw away all of the yellow. That is what contains the deadly

cholesterol that sets off the gall bladder attacks. You can eat the yellow

drippings on each egg, but do not eat the big round piece of yellow.

And so it goes

Clyde LeGlide

-------Original Message-------

From: gallstones

Date: Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:06:53 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: garlic... my experience

Have you eaten eggs with no problems up til now?

Generally for most eggs are a " no no " with gall bladder

problems...even my MD told me that. I stopped eating

them and noticed a big difference.

Hi, ,

Eggs were always bad for me, too, until just recently. I'm getting to where

I can eat a few of them. There are even several places on the Internet at

medical website from doctors that talk about eggs being a thing that people

with GB problems trigger attacks.

Susie

[Guest guest]

> Have you eaten eggs with no problems up til now?

> Generally for most eggs are a " no no " with gall bladder

> problems...even my MD told me that. I stopped eating

> them and noticed a big difference.

>

> Hi, ,

> Eggs were always bad for me, too, until just recently.

That is an encouragement to me!! I look forward to being

able to eat eggs again. I'd like to fit a flush in in September,

have to figure out when. I have had quite a busy summer

and haven't been able to do one since March. Lots of

stress going around here, and think it best not to overstress

the body along with outside stress, so only like doing

cleanses once or twice a year, then watching diet and keeping

a bit of the good oils in to keep the GB and liver moving

bile...a day or two of lots of apple juice also helps now and

then. Take care! claudia

[Guest guest]

For me the yolk is the best part :-) When we do eat them,

we use Eggland's best, and I like to take my lecethin supplement

at that time...there is lecethin in eggs...but I don't know what

part has the most, the whites or yellow. Just plain whites and

" raw " drippings of yellow doesn't do it for me, but that's just

personal taste :-)

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

> I eat eggs sunny side up a dozen at a time a couple of times a week with

no

> problems at all. The trick is however to only eat the egg white. Scoop out

> and throw away all of the yellow. That is what contains the deadly

> cholesterol that sets off the gall bladder attacks. You can eat the yellow

> drippings on each egg, but do not eat the big round piece of yellow.

[Guest guest]

At or about 03:06, 25/08/02 (my clock), Tishri7@... made the

following statement:There are even several places on the Internet at

>medical website from doctors that talk about eggs being a thing that

>people

>with GB problems trigger attacks.

>Susie

Could you please provide the URLs for us.

Thank you again for being so informative.

---------------------------

IRA L. JACOBSON

---------------------------

mailto:laser@...

[Guest guest]

> Could you please provide the URLs for us.

>

> Thank you again for being so informative.

>

>

Ira,

I lost a bunch of stuff on my computer when our hard drive crashed. I'm

sorry, but you'll have to look it up yourself because I have a job to work

on. Try typing in anything about gallbladder disease. I'm sure you'll find

something.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your insight Susie....i always eat bacon tho, without consequence.

So I guess that garlic did a number on the bacteria in my system....it was

not a fun nite.

I would like to have that freshpressed garlic dressing recipe. Thanks, Jill