Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 I was wondering if we have some statistics on the efficacy of flushing. What I mean is those people who have had demonstrable gallstones, as shown by ultrasonic or other imaging, and have been conclusively shown to be free of stones after having done one or another of the flushes. Similarly, who has had demonstrable gallstones, as shown by ultrasonic or other imaging, and have been conclusively shown still to have such stones after having done one or another of the flushes. I wish to thank all those who will be responding in advance. --------------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON --------------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 This is a VERY good question in my opinion. We all know that Dale has proof. This question is the reason I wanted to have a second ultrasound. My second ultrasound after six months of flushing was actually worse than my first. I have had mostly private doubts about the efficacy of the flushes for gallbladder. Even in Dale's case, it can't be proved that it was the flushing that produced his results. Although, I can't remember if the other things he did were after or before that last bad attack. It makes no sense to me that the gallbladder or liver would continue to expel thousands of stones with no end in sight, or very large stones continuously. I asked my surgeon if the liver produced stones and he said " on ocassion. " I know one Dr does not know everything, but neither necessarily does several dozen, ND's, chiros, and health researchers. I flushed in excess of 3,000 " stones " . My 16th cleanse produced as many stones as my 1st. I suppose I could still have been producing stones. I am not saying that the flush does not expel gallstones. I think it MIGHT expel SOME. I do firmly believe that it helps the liver. I think the cleanse is the main reason that I lost weight so easily after five years of not being able to no matter what I did. I also think that the flush used in conjunction with other methods, ie, diet, fasting, juicing, Chinese herbs, supplements, etc can reverse gallbladder disease. And I cannot argue with lots of people I know personally or via this group who did one or a few cleanses and never had another problem. I am sure some of the results of flushing are actually stones. I am not sure the thousands upon thousands that appear to be stones, actually are. In fact, I now seriously doubt it. I now wonder if there is some truth to the whole soap stone arguement. But, I am not an expert. These things work differently on different people and in spite of my belief about what our old friend Barry called bile balls, I will still cleanse once a year for liver health. Hope you're not all mad at me. Unlike Barry, I will not beat a dead horse and I hope anyone who finds the flush helps them, will continue. Dawn > Similarly, who has had demonstrable gallstones, as shown by ultrasonic or > other imaging, and have been conclusively shown still to have such stones > after having done one or another of the flushes. > > I wish to thank all those who will be responding in advance. > > --------------------------- > IRA L. JACOBSON > --------------------------- > mailto:laser@i... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:SimSun; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}@font-face {font-family: " \@SimSun " ; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}@font-face {font-family:Enviro;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family: " Times New Roman " ;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;}span.emailstyle17 {color:black;}span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial; color:navy;}@page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;}div.Section1 {page:Section1;}-->Interesting, as well as scary, health statistics… http://www.thehealthmovie.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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