Re: Bladdr Cancer

[Guest guest]

This is from personal experience and lots of research.

Someone is out of sync here. BCG is one of the effective treatments for people

with Bladder Cancer.

It does not, however, kill tumors but rather is supposed to stimulate the immune

system into action to prevent further recurrences. Not always effective.

Additionally it has always been my understanding that BCG would not be used when

a tumor is present.

The entire Urology field is upside down from what I read. You need to do a lot

of research and look for a Dr. Lamm, one of the nation's leading Urologists for

solid information, albeit, conventional with some vitamin protocol when doing

BCG.

I am shocked they did a biopsy and did not remove the tumor/s. This is

exactly what we want to avoid, proving and slicing into a tumor and leaving it

to seed cells. The biopsy comes after the complete resection and proper

grading done as a result.

As for removal of the bladder? When they do that, they will also take the

prostate and a 'new' bladder will be built. My response to my Urologist when

that was a 'future' procedure? 'Sorry, that is not going to be an option'.

There is no guarantee that the cancer will not come back and metastasize and

when one reads all of the studies, one finds that after you weed out the

propaganda, you find that survivability is not enhanced enough to warrant such a

drastic measure as removal of the bladder, prostate, and some tubing. Not for

me thanks.

It seems to me you should be getting back to that surgeon/urologist asking why

he/she did not remove the tumor/s when in there? I would suggest before you

do that, you get a complete set of your medical records, every blood test and

the results of every cystoscopy and the TURP if that was done. Everyone should

get the report for every test and procedure. They are required to provide that

and don't accept a denial.

Good luck and you can beat this thing.....but you need to study and get

information from people that know what works and what does not.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Thanks...Actually I think the URO DID get it all out..thats what he said...plus

he said " it usually comes back " which implies that he did. Plus I read his

report and it says " all tissues were evacuated and sent to pathology..at the end

of the procedure the base wall (where the tumor was ) was grossly clean. And he

said " come back in 3 months for another cytoscope, UNLESS the bleeding returns.

I think it is the ONCO who got it wrong. She had NOT talked to the URO, but had

just read some reports, and when I aaid I thought the uRO took it all out, she

said " they cant take it all out, they just take some out for a biopsy " ..

I think if that was true, the URO would have said so.

Anyway, i am writing the URO plus will ask to see him again, to get it from the

horses mouth as to whether he took it all out.

IF he did, and there was no invasion of muscle tissue, then the Amer. Uro Assn

clasifies this as a T1 ca, which is still SUPERFICIAL, and TURP (which was done)

and BCG is the recommendation, plus monitoring it with cytospcic exame

From: JCastron

This is from personal experience and lots of research.

Someone is out of sync here. BCG is one of the effective treatments for people

with Bladder Cancer.

It does not, however, kill tumors but rather is supposed to stimulate the

immune system into action to prevent further recurrences. Not always effective.

Additionally it has always been my understanding that BCG would not be used

when a tumor is present.

The entire Urology field is upside down from what I read. You need to do a lot

of research and look for a Dr. Lamm, one of the nation's leading Urologists for

solid information, albeit, conventional with some vitamin protocol when doing

BCG.

I am shocked they did a biopsy and did not remove the tumor/s. This is exactly

what we want to avoid, proving and slicing into a tumor and leaving it to seed

cells. The biopsy comes after the complete resection and proper grading done as

a result.

As for removal of the bladder? When they do that, they will also take the

prostate and a 'new' bladder will be built. My response to my Urologist when

that was a 'future' procedure? 'Sorry, that is not going to be an option'.

There is no guarantee that the cancer will not come back and metastasize and

when one reads all of the studies, one finds that after you weed out the

propaganda, you find that survivability is not enhanced enough to warrant such a

drastic measure as removal of the bladder, prostate, and some tubing. Not for me

thanks.

It seems to me you should be getting back to that surgeon/urologist asking why

he/she did not remove the tumor/s when in there? I would suggest before you do

that, you get a complete set of your medical records, every blood test and the

results of every cystoscopy and the TURP if that was done. Everyone should get

the report for every test and procedure. They are required to provide that and

don't accept a denial.

Good luck and you can beat this thing.....but you need to study and get

information from people that know what works and what does not.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

BTW, ,anyone heard of Dr Blaylock? he has a Wellness newsletter,and 2 reports on

preventing cancer.

he says a couple of things I never heard of :

1) that dairy can cause cancer, so avoid it

2) that calcium can cause cancer, especially prostate ca.

he also says to avoid soy, which I have heard before, as it rasise estrogen

levels

also that iron " fertilizes " cancer..that I have also heard before..

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From: JCastron

Someone is out of sync here. BCG is one of the effective treatments for people

with Bladder Cancer.

It does not, however, kill tumors but rather is supposed to stimulate the

immune system into action to prevent further recurrences. Not always effective.

Additionally it has always been my understanding that BCG would not be used

when a tumor is present.