Niacin

December 11, 2009

Hi Tony:

Pardon me for butting in, but I notice that you seem to be taking over 400 mg of

Niacin a day. (200 mgx 2 times a day, plus NY Flakes?, plus your food, plus

maybe some liver too?) I seem to recall Bee saying that if you take over 400 mg

of niacin a day you risk throwing off the balances of your other vitamin ratios.

Bee's diet is 50-100 mg of niacin daily.

So you may want to run your high niacin intake past Bee and see what her

thoughts are.

Best,

Marissa

> I take 200 mg niacin twice daily. I used to take nutritional yeast flakes

daily and have run >out but now that I have access to the liver I would like to

eat it as the raw liver drink >described on your site instead of ordering more

of the yeast. I dont want to incur any >imbalances is why I ask the question of

how often I should eat it and if eating the liver will >help as much as the

nutritional yeast flakes...

December 11, 2009

Thanks Bee & Bonemilk,

I am trying to follow a similar plan as to what Bee posts that she eats and

supplements daily. Bee, would 200 mg twice daily niacin plus nutritional yeast

be too much. I think I recall you saying it was okay as long as we werent

taking more than 400mg total per day from a Niacin only supplement. Thanks in

advance for your help...

December 12, 2009

>

> Thanks Bee & Bonemilk,

> I am trying to follow a similar plan as to what Bee posts that she eats and

supplements daily. Bee, would 200 mg twice daily niacin plus nutritional yeast

be too much. I think I recall you saying it was okay as long as we werent

taking more than 400mg total per day from a Niacin only supplement. Thanks in

advance for your help...

+++Hi Tony. Yes 200 mg of niacin twice a day and nutritional yeast flakes is

too much niacin. It is also true if a Vitamin B complex contains " true " niacin.

I think it is better to be cautious, since it is the combination of all

nutrients in the diet plus all supplements that work together. Increasing any

one supplement over others can throw off balances.

What is the similar plan you are doing?

All the best, Bee

December 12, 2009

What is the similar plan you are doing?

>I thought I was following along with the part on your site that shows an

example of what you eat & the daily supplements you take. I now see that you are

taking a B-50 complex and not the nutritional yeast flakes. I will reduce my

niacin intake as I dont want any imbalances. My niacin comes in 100mg capsules.

Would taking 100mg twice daily along with the nutritional yeast be to much or

should I only take the niacin once a day until I can get a different niacin

supplement. Thanks for your help on this issue I definitely dont want to make

things worse for me......

December 12, 2009

>

> What is the similar plan you are doing?

>

> >I thought I was following along with the part on your site that shows an

example of what you eat & the daily supplements you take.

+++Hi Tony. That is not what I eat daily, with supplements, etc. It is

probably a plan by a member of this group, which is only an example of what

he/she was doing. Was it the article entitled " Buzzin' Bee's Daily Plan for

Healthy Me? " That plan is by Debra NW, a member of this group.

I don't follow this candida program since I cured my candida about 22 years ago.

I take less of some supplements too because I can have dairy products, and I

don't need the amount of vitamin C required for a person who is ill. However, I

do eat healthy!

I now see that you are taking a B-50 complex and not the nutritional yeast

flakes. I will reduce my niacin intake as I dont want any imbalances. My niacin

comes in 100mg capsules. Would taking 100mg twice daily along with the

nutritional yeast be to much or should I only take the niacin once a day until I

can get a different niacin supplement.

+++That's okay since I don't believe the nutritional yeast flakes contain 200 mg

of niacin.

Thanks for your help on this issue I definitely dont want to make things worse

for me......

+++Ensure you've read How to Successfully Overcome Candida

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

+++And that you are making the transition over to this program by following

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

Here's the Supplements - Description & Doses:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

Here's a handy Supplements Chart:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp7.php

Here's the Candida Diet Foods List:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foodslist.php

Here's the Candida Diet No-Nos:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods50.php

Here's the Candida/Yeast Section on my website - explore and enjoy!

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php

All the best, Bee

January 5, 2010

>

> Hi Bee

>

> I've been taking 100 mg 2x/day of niacin and I'm not having flushes anymore.

Does that mean I should increase it?

>

> I read that if you take 400 mg you need to increase your supplements - all of

them or just your Bs?

+++Hi Kim. No, do not increase niacin simply because you aren't flushing. You

still get the benefits of niacin even if your body does not flush. Do not take

400 mg of niacin or more, since it isn't necessary.

> I've noticed a significant decrease in joint pain since taking it and I'm

getting feeling in my fingers again.

+++Everything works together so it isn't just niacin that is helping you.

The best, Bee

April 12, 2010

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I'm wondering which brand of Niacin you recommend. I recently purchased

Natural Factors Vitamin B3 but the ingredients say " Vitamin B3 (Nicotinic

Acid) " , 100mg. Is this what I should be taking? And how many of these pills do

you recommend that we take per day?

>

+++Hi . Yes, that is the correct niacin to take. Niacin IS nicotinic

acid, which is the same nutrient found in tobacco, green plants, meats, eggs,

etc.

The amount to take is listed on this handy Supplement Chart in the description

for vitamin B Complex:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp7.php

Be sure to cut up that 100 mg tablet to avoid getting an uncomfortable niacin

flush - here's more info on the niacin flush:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/niacin.php

All the best, Bee

July 5, 2010

Are we supposed to take Niacin in addition to 2 tablespoons nutritional yeast

flakes?

Amy

>

> Thank you so much Bee, that article on itching was wonderful. It made me

realize how most of us get in a panic when the injured swell and such, I will

take a different outlook. It seems the medical field rushes to antibiotics for

just about everything and have taught us to be scared of these symptoms. Just

curious about Niacin, why is it good to take? I am guessing it has something to

do with flushing our system? Also; I am taking everything but the coconut oil,

I put it all over my skin daily but cannot bring myself to swallow it. If you

tell me it will cut my healing time in 1/2 or that I am really missing out and

it is very important, I will make myself! Being Stubborn-Many thanks, courtney

>

July 5, 2010

Hi Amy,

No, you do not need to take additional niacin if you are taking the nutritional

yeast flakes. See Bee's message # 91787, and others.

Best,

andra

group moderator

>

> Are we supposed to take Niacin in addition to 2 tablespoons nutritional yeast

flakes?

>

> Amy

>

July 6, 2010

>

> Thank you so much Bee, that article on itching was wonderful. It made me

realize how most of us get in a panic when the injured swell and such, I will

take a different outlook. It seems the medical field rushes to antibiotics for

just about everything and have taught us to be scared of these symptoms.

Just curious about Niacin, why is it good to take? I am guessing it has

something to do with flushing our system? Also; I am taking everything but the

coconut oil, I put it all over my skin daily but cannot bring myself to swallow

it. If you tell me it will cut my healing time in 1/2 or that I am really

missing out and it is very important, I will make myself!

+++Hi ,

That's wonderful you are taking a different outlook on your symptoms and

reactions. We all need to take responsibility for our own health and not hand

it over to the medical field who are running a business that focuses on profits

and not on helping people get healthy.

See this Niacin article to understand why it is good to take:

http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2009/07/twenty-five-sceintific-points-in.ht\

ml

Coconut oil is a very important part of this program so please start taking it.

Healing cannot be rushed or speeded up with any food, nutrient or treatment.

That is because of the time our bodies need in order to heal naturally, which is

at least 1 month for every year you've been unhealthy, and sometimes it takes

longer. It is actually amazing our bodies can heal in such a short time when

you realize how long it took to get so unhealthy.

But that can only happen if you are completely on the program because all

nutrients work together providing your body with what it needs to do its job.

All the best, Bee

July 6, 2010

I clicked on the link you listed and it is very different than I thought...Dr.

Young is saying to avoid steak (acidic foods) and eat alkaline foods.Â This

doesn't make sense to me now since I am on mostly all meat diet....and I didn't

see anything about niacin.Â

http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2009/07/twenty-five-sceintific-points-in.ht\

ml

Should we eat more raw green veggies now?

Very confused

BPW

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: niacin

Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 7:49 AM

Â

>

> Thank you so much Bee, that article on itching was wonderful.Â It made me

realize how most of us get in a panic when the injured swell and such, I will

take a different outlook.Â It seems the medical field rushes to antibiotics for

just about everything and have taught us to be scared of these symptoms.

Just curious about Niacin, why is it good to take?Â I am guessing it has

something to do with flushing our system? Â Also; I am taking everything but

the coconut oil, I put it all over my skin daily but cannot bring myself to

swallow it.Â If you tell me it will cut my healing time in 1/2 or that I am

really missing out and it is very important, I will make myself!

+++Hi ,

That's wonderful you are taking a different outlook on your symptoms and

reactions. We all need to take responsibility for our own health and not hand

it over to the medical field who are running a business that focuses on profits

and not on helping people get healthy.

See this Niacin article to understand why it is good to take:

http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2009/07/twenty-five-sceintific-points-in.ht\

ml

Coconut oil is a very important part of this program so please start taking it.

Healing cannot be rushed or speeded up with any food, nutrient or treatment.

That is because of the time our bodies need in order to heal naturally, which is

at least 1 month for every year you've been unhealthy, and sometimes it takes

longer. It is actually amazing our bodies can heal in such a short time when

you realize how long it took to get so unhealthy.

But that can only happen if you are completely on the program because all

nutrients work together providing your body with what it needs to do its job.

All the best, Bee

July 7, 2010

Hello BPW,

The acidity-alkalinity theory is a non-issue when it comes to health. See here:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu5_1.php

No, it is generally not recommended to eat raw vegetables, which are difficult

for even healthy people to digest.

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/veg2.php

Here is a brief article on niacin:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/niacin.php

Hope that helps,

andra

group moderator

>

> I clicked on the link you listed and it is very different than I thought...Dr.

Young is saying to avoid steak (acidic foods) and eat alkaline foods.Â This

doesn't make sense to me now since I am on mostly all meat diet....and I didn't

see anything about niacin.Â

http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2009/07/twenty-five-sceintific-points-in.ht\

ml

> Should we eat more raw green veggies now?

> Very confused

> BPW

>

July 7, 2010

Thanks for responding, and posting my question for that matter....and I have

read all of those things.

My problem was when someone included (original message) recommend reading the

link I included in my email...It was from Dr. Young's website....he has been

referenced several times and I like his info but it going against what Bee's

plan is saying drastically. So, this confuses me since I have little faith, but

am sticking to the plan, anyway.

bpw

From: nocalc <nocalc@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: niacin

Hello BPW,

The acidity-alkalinity theory is a non-issue when it comes to health. See here:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu5_1.php

No, it is generally not recommended to eat raw vegetables, which are difficult

for even healthy people to digest.

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/veg2.php

Here is a brief article on niacin:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/niacin.php

Hope that helps,

andra, group moderator

July 7, 2010

>

> Thanks for responding, and posting my question for that matter....and I have

read all of those things.

>

> My problem was when someone included (original message) recommend reading the

link I included in my email...It was from Dr. Young's website....he has been

referenced several times and I like his info but it going against what Bee's

plan is saying drastically. So, this confuses me since I have little faith, but

am sticking to the plan, anyway.

>

+++Hi bpw,

Dr. Young was not referenced because of his program, but because he had made

videos of live blood cell analysis.

We know his program doesn't help and that he has major misconceptions even about

how the digestion system works. I know because I've done extensive study on

digestion since it was my worst symptoms when I had candida over 25 years ago.

So I've studied it more than anything else, and cross-referenced everything on

digestion with a few Physiology Texts used in medical schools, and many others.

Cheers, Bee

July 29, 2010

>

> Bee,

>

> iherb has been our of niacin 50 mg flushing for a long time. I finally ordered

this

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Way-Niacin-Nicotinic-Acid-100-mg-100-Capsules/1999\

?at=0

> Its fillers are not good, I am afraid to take it for a month or so. I was

going to divide it and take 1/2 twice a day. If anyone knows where I can find

carlton labs niacin 50 mg, please let me know. Thanks.

>

+++Hi C.

That Niacin is okay; the other ingredients are in the capsule itself which

usually cannot be avoided, although other niacin brands contain less. It still

think they are okay.

Do an internet search for Carlton Labs niacin, since I'm not familiar with it.

Why not continue taking Natural Factors B3 (Niacin) from iHerb?

Bee

September 29, 2010

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Should we be concerned about this study. It said niacin, like other lipid

reducing agents can cause the same effect as statins in causing neuropathy. Of

course, niacin has the same benefits, without all the other side effects.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9671841

>

+++Hi C.

First, niacin is not a lipid-reducing agent, instead it mobilizes fatty acids so

they are more available as nutrients, or can get excreted when not needed. But

miacin doesn't interfere with the body's ability to make cholesterol like

statins do.

Statins work to force cholesterol down because they interfere with the body's

ability to make cholesterol. We know the body makes the cholesterol it requires

for many very good reasons, and high cholesterol does not mean a person can get

heart disease, as this article explains:

http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-diseases/cardiovascular-disease/585-what-caus\

es-heart-disease.html

One of the reasons your body produces more cholesterol is in response to

inflammation (healing going on anywhere in the body, including heart disease),

and toxins, so that's why cholesterol levels increase when your body is healing

and detoxifying like it is on this program. Eventually, as you get more and

more healthy cholesterol levels will naturally lower, since they aren't needed

in higher amounts.

All the best, Bee

January 18, 2011

Wil says that if body given correct minerals, the body will utilize the vitamins

from the food we eat.. I will be using his minerals which are state of the art

the best out there I believe.. His are warm-water extracted, colloidal, easily

absorbed; they are not chemically processed and have been predigested by plants

and animals--such is the shale he uses--making them more bioavailable to us..

For what this is worth.. [Oh, they are affordable! :>)]

Are you taking Niacin now? Maybe that's what the rash is from?

Luckily, nature has provided us FOOD that has niacin in it - almonds, seeds,

beans, rice bran, mushrooms, green leafy vegetables, carrots, dates, broccoli,

turnips, celery, blue green algae, peanuts, legumes, avocado, potatoes,,,

Stay away from the isolated and synthetic substances - they are usually never

good for your body.

I have no idea what L. Ron Hubbard's protocol is. What is it? Although I have

no idea why anyone would follow whatever his protocol is, because he was a

sociopath and a drug-addict and lived to be only 75. (Or maybe he didn't die,

maybe he just went to Venus)

Carol

>

> I have a heavenly heat suana that I have started to use again. Has anyone

ever used L. Ron Hubbard's protocal? I am also getting a terrible rash on my

stomach and I know it is due to the sauna. Wondering if this could be toxins

coming out? It itches a lot and looks like small pimples.

>

> I have been looking for a good source for Niacin, but only find ones that have

several fillers in them. Anyone know of a company that makes them without all

the junk in them?

>

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January 19, 2011

That's it in a nutshell - give your body the correct minerals, which come only

from food, not isolated and synthetic pills.

Carol

>

> Wil says that if body given correct minerals, the body will utilize the

vitamins from the food we eat..

January 19, 2011

...Yes, certainly NOT from petro-chemical " vitamins! " ~Louise

That's it in a nutshell - give your body the correct minerals, which come only

from food, not isolated and synthetic pills.

Carol

>

> Wil says that if body given correct minerals, the body will utilize the

vitamins from the food we eat..

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January 19, 2011

Carol, that would be fine but the food today is extremely deficient of most

trace minerals. Organic food has just less than 20 minerals and conventional

food like walmart has less than 16 minerals.

We need over 60 minerals to be healthy in our diet. So supplementation is

paramount is you want to be healthy.

Vitamins, hormones & enzymes all need minerals along with amino acids to be

created in our body by our body.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: Everett <louise_everet93@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:40:25 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Niacin

...Yes, certainly NOT from petro-chemical " vitamins! " ~Louise

That's it in a nutshell - give your body the correct minerals, which come only

from food, not isolated and synthetic pills.

Carol

>

> Wil says that if body given correct minerals, the body will utilize the

>vitamins from the food we eat..

>

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January 19, 2011

BTW, because he ain't (isn't) going to be trumpeting his own horn, I WILL be

buying from Wil--the products are on the web/his online store--his 70+ Colloidal

Plant Minerals.. The below is copied from his website/Environotics store--I

didn't copy the Clinical Notes too which give a lot more info!

...These minerals are warm-water extracted, not chemically. They are electrically

charged, colloidal, easily metabolized and absorbed--from shale made up of

predigested animal & plant matter making them far more bio-available. ..As

opposed to dry minerals that are not predigested (and not as easily absorbed)..

...I am *thoroughly convinced* with a number of naturo experts having told me so,

and Wil's info is just icing on the cake: that a LOT of my health issues

*including* the systemic gut fungus now working to kill off completely with the

MMS/AOT, have been due to uh, malnutrition. That is to say, not the balanced

diet I have truly needed; *not* enough of some things, and *too much* of others

[iMbalance]..

Wil's AOT (his name for MMS) is truly working a miracle in my body in less than

a week on it--found significant improvement in just 3 days!! Not that I agree

with *every single thing* that Wil *may* ascribe to--we may have to agree to

disagree on a couple of things :>)--but as far as NUTRITIONALLY with expertise

in overcoming illness specifically candida which he had a nightmare prob with

before he did more research and treatment: I get behind the guy ALL THE WAY. He

knows his stuff.. Also his HEART is in the RIGHT PLACE! I do not know ANY

professional that takes such pains and concerns for his clients as this man

does, to ensure we are doing well.. ..We are fortunate indeed to have him as a

member of our group..

Hope this helps..Louise( Louise Everett--I go by " Louise " :>)(..French

Canadian Mom, you know.. :>)

From Wil's site: (MIneral info below)bodyelectrician.comEarth Borne70+ Colloidal

Plant MineralsLiquid32 ounces / 960 mlA rich concentration of the most complete

full spectrum of pure plant derived minerals we can find. Plant minerals come

from prehistoric mined sources and are water soluble making them far more

available for absorption in the body than metallic

minerals.Ingredients:Macrominerals: Calcium, Carbon, Chloride, Magnesium,

Phosphorus, Potassium, Sodium, Sulfur.Essential Trace Minerals:Chromium, Cobalt,

Copper, Iodine, Iron, Manganese, Molybdenum, Selenium, ZincUltra Trace

Minerals: Aluminum, Antimony, Arsenic, Barium, Beryllium, Bismuth, Boron,

Bromine, Cadmium, Cerium, Cesium, Cobalt, Dysprosium, Erbium, Europium,

Fluorine, Gadolinium, Gallium, Germanium, Gold, Hafnium, Holmium, Hydrogen,

Indium, Lanthanum, Lead, Lithium, Lutetium, Neodymium, Nickel, Niobium,

Nitrogen, Osmium, Oxygen, Palladium, Platinum, Praseodymium, Rhenium, Rhodium,

Rubidium, Ruthenium, Samarium, Scandium, Silicon, Silver, Strontium, Tantalum,

Tellurium, Terbium, Thallium, Thorium, Tin, Titanium, Tungsten, Vanadium,

Ytterbium, Yttrium, Zirconium

That's it in a nutshell - give your body the correct minerals, which come only

from food, not isolated and synthetic pills.

Carol

>

> Wil says that if body given correct minerals, the body will utilize the

>vitamins from the food we eat..

>

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January 20, 2011

, I'm glad you are getting good results from this product. I'm still

not convinced though. It just sounds like a lot of isolated minerals just

assembled together. That is so unnatural for your body. There's an

interdependency factor - you need everything, not just minerals. Give me food

any day. I do take whole food supplements, but the ingredients are all

naturally occurring in it - nothing added or taken away. Totally organic and

natural, and your body recognizes it because of it being a food. I realize a

lot of food is devoid of vitamins/minerals because of where it is grown and not

being organic, so I'm lucky I guess that I found a product that fills in the

gaps naturally, instead of all these isolated ingredients.

Carol

January 20, 2011

Sorry, Carol, the 70+ Minerals are not isolated minerals mixed into a

concoction. They are steam/hot water extracted from pre-historic shale. The list

of minerals in 's post are not at all isolated elements. They are the

result of a process of extraction keeping them in their balanced and totally

available to the human body. I own the company that makes the 70+ Minerals and

they are the best I can find for my customers and clients.

And another thing, Carol, the food today is extremely deficient of minerals,

organic or conventional. Organic food has only a few more minerals than

conventionally grown food. All organic means is the food does not have as much

chemical inputs. It does not mean it is any more nourishing.

In 1936, on the Senate floor, it was discussed about the lack of viable minerals

in the food chain. The government has known this for over 80 years and it plays

into the monetary rewards of the mediSIN business. Most all disease of today is

really only a malnutrition state of being, including the disease of

" Candidiasis " .

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: algaelady1 <carol@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 8:58:52 AM

Subject: Re: Niacin