Re: Avoiding Bladder Removal-Web Sites-ONCOVITE

[Guest guest]

I emailed Lamm, he was pretty good about emailing back. I live in L.A.,so I

ofund a URO oncologist here who is going to do it.

The American Urology Assn, on their website now says that BCG is the preferred

treatment to prevent recurrence of Bl ca , at least the superficial ones ..of

course they do not mention supplements.

blcwebcafe is graet..i talked to and she gave me a lot of good advice

From: JCastron

Here's a link to Lamm's protocol using the vitamins which one can make

themselves: http://blcwebcafe.org/oncovite.asp

It's a simple protocol and I didn't use the exact amounts because nothing is

set in stone. I used the term 'high vitamin' only because in the allopathic

field, almost everything is high when one is dealing with vitamins. You'll also

learn a bit about Lamm.

I've been researching Bladder Cancer for over 5 years now and rarely miss a

trick. Do not let them put you on the conveyor belt to a cystectomy!!! Do some

research and aside from the conventional practitioners.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

I would not have cared that the 'association' said BCG was the preferred

treatment, it was 's general approval because of the results it gets. I

trusted his judgment, not the word of a Urologist and still only take their

suggestion when it falls in line with my own convictions. We all must make

decisions and should I discover metastasis beyond the bladder, I'm heading out

to Southern California and looking for 's help. That's my decision

because I'm never going to get on that conveyor belt to cystectomy, another

'Gold Standard' of the Allopaths.

There are few 'Gold Standard' or 'Standard of Care' treatments for sickness that

Alternative fans would allow so why do something because some Association

suggests it?

In this case they have good evidence and still I would not have done it if it

had been standard Chemotherapy. I only allowed BCG because it was

Immunotherapy and it was instilled into the bladder and only held for upwards of

two hours then voided out. There is still risk of sepsis....but again, it's

decision time.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the information.

My cancer is still on the surface of the bladder, but it keeps recurring.

My Uro says that the illness can be treated with BCG and periodic ablation, but

one in three men die of the disease using this method. Cystectomy seems the only

way of beating these odds, according to the doctor.

What is your opinion?

--GC

Here's a link to Lamm's protocol using the vitamins which one can make

themselves: http://blcwebcafe. org/oncovite. asp

It's a simple protocol and I didn't use the exact amounts because nothing is set

in stone. I used the term 'high vitamin' only because in the allopathic field,

almost everything is high when one is dealing with vitamins. You'll also learn a

bit about Lamm.

I've been researching Bladder Cancer for over 5 years now and rarely miss a

trick. Do not let them put you on the conveyor belt to a cystectomy!! ! Do some

research and aside from the conventional practitioners.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

From: Gerry Corrigan

....My cancer is still on the surface of the bladder, but it keeps recurring. My

Uro says that the illness can be treated with BCG and periodic ablation, but one

in three men die of the disease using this method. Cystectomy seems the only way

of beating these odds, according to the doctor. --GC

>

Yes, if you saw the info i just emailed..i think that's the key. EVERY

knowledgable doc, inculding MDs, like this Dr Blaylock, warn agianst heavy

chemo, except as a last resort.. etc, and say that cancer is , among other

things.. a) a weakened immune system, which usually keeps thing under control

(NK ccells), and there are things like Immunition (Micronizeed beta glucan) that

increase NK cell activity, etc, and MNAY other natural supplements..

Toxic build up/mercury from teeth fillings, chemical, etc..and that can

easily be cleaned thru herbs, aunas, etc,

c) Inflamation, which causes cancer, arthritis, etc, and there are PLENTY of

fruits, veggies, supplement for that.

Doing all that, you will at least feel TREMENDOUS..

Also exercise , etc..

Also , to monitor this thing, the cytoscope is 95% accurate, also a combination

of 2 tests, NMP22 and a urine test, that together are 91% sensitive, and now a

BTA urine test,..also the AMAS test for geneneral ca detection..Pubmed (a gov

site gives all this data )

I also saw on the LDN site great testimomnials for advanced tumors going

away..why not try that? It seems minimally invasive.

just have to find a doc that prescribes it.

BTW, if money is a problem and you have no insurance, most states now have

programs thru their counties for the " medically indigent " , so that can help get

you to doctors, etc

As long as its superficial, thats what I would try, plus close monitoring..I

just saw an email about someone who had the bladder removal and it was horrible.

they said " my new urologist cried when he saw what the other doc had done " !!

BTW the protocol now is after the first 6 BCGs, and another cytoscope, to do the

BCG every 3 weeks for maintenance..is that what you are doing?

Also taking that lactobacillus casei from BioK or, etc has dramatically reduced

the incidence of recurrence and how long it takes to recur..thats in Urology

reports. google it.

[Guest guest]

Got it.. i thought you meant to get just 2 individual BCG

treatments , and thats it.. The uRO I have ( and Dr Lamm) said to do

a series of 6 , but then also one treatment every 3 weeks for

maintenance, and then if things look good, i guess taper off..

BTW, I must have missed soemthing..who's this in /near san

diego? I live near LA, so it may be worth a consult or trip..if I

knew how to contact him. Thanks

[Moderator's note: Gammill is a scientist and the Director of the Center

for the Study of Natural Oncology, Solana Beach, CA, near San Diego. Website:

www.natural-oncology.org often writes messages for this group.]

JCastron wrote:

I would not have cared that the 'association' said BCG was the

preferred treatment, it was 's general approval because of the

results it gets. I trusted his judgment, not the word of a Urologist

and still only take their suggestion when it falls in line with my

own convictions. We all must make decisions and should I discover

metastasis beyond the bladder, I'm heading out to Southern California

and looking for 's help. That's my decision because I'm

never going to get on that conveyor belt to cystectomy, another 'Gold

Standard' of the Allopaths.

> There are few 'Gold Standard' or 'Standard of Care' treatments for

sickness that Alternative fans would allow so why do something

because some Association suggests it?

> In this case they have good evidence and still I would not have

done it if it had been standard Chemotherapy. I only allowed BCG

because it was Immunotherapy and it was instilled into the bladder

and only held for upwards of two hours then voided out. There is

still risk of sepsis....but again, it's decision time.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Good for you, Joe. I think you've got their game figured out....

tragic as it is.

Phil

--------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> The more one studies, really studies, the information from the

Allopaths, one comes to the conclusion that survivability is not

really enhanced by cystectomy.

>

> These people are juggling the facts and our health.