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It's not important unless your on TRT and have your Total T levels up high then

we need to know your Free and Bio T level to tell if it's bound up.

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> From: esplinbj <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: My labs this year, low normal free test, low

cortisol etc. Update.

>

> Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 3:11 PM

> What is your free, and or

> bioavailable testosterone level?  Most doctors don't

> seem to care about this level, which is really the most

> important.

>

>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> From:

> > > virtuosa150

> > > > > > > <virtuosa150@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Subject:

> > >

> > > > > lack of

> > > > > > > sleep or low T, which came

> first

> > > > > > > > > > > > To:

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Date: Tuesday,

> > > August

> > > > > 18, 2009,

> > > > > > > 5:54 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > I've

> seen a

> > > lot of

> > > > > things that

> > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > > lack

> of sleep

> > > lowers a

> > > > > guys

> > > > > > > testosterone. I used to

> sleep

> > > > > > > > > > > > like

> a baby

> > > before I

> > > > > started

> > > > > > > noticing the low T symptoms.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Eventually,

> > > after I get

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > hormones squared away, will

> my

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> sleep improve?

> > > From what

> > > > > I've

> > > > > > > read, complex hormonal stuff

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> happens at

> > > night.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > When

> I started

> > > noticing

> > > > > the low T

> > > > > > > stuff and starting to not

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> sleep, I

> > > started using

> > > > > melatonin.

> > > > > > > It seemed to help

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> somewhat. Then

> > > I read

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > melatonin being a hormone

> that is

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> produced is

> > > not good

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > testosterone in a high

> amount. Is

> > > > > > > > > > > > this

> true?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I'd

> give

> > > almost anything

> > > > > for a

> > > > > > > good nights sleep. So would

> > > > > > > > > > > > my

> wife,

> > > she's

> > > > > postmenopause. I've

> > > > > > > read that some

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> testosterone

> > > might do

> > > > > her good.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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Ok I see but get it up and keep it up going to low is not a good idea just like

being to high is not good.

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> From: esplinbj <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: My labs this year, low normal free test, low

cortisol etc. Update.

>

> Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 3:59 PM

> Thanks for all the information. 

> My ferritin was low due to giving blood every two months for

> some time.  I have had high iron in the past, and give

> blood to keep it down.  I let it get too low, but I

> store iron quickly, so I think my level will come back on

> it's own.  I haven't given blood for about six months

> and I will have my ferritin rechecked in a few more months

> and I think it will be more normal.

>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > From:

> > > > > virtuosa150

> > > > > > > > > >

> <virtuosa150@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > Subject:

> > > > > > > lack of

> > > > > > > > > > sleep or low

> T, which

> > > came first

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > Date:

> > > > > Tuesday,

> > > > > > > August 18, 2009,

> > > > > > > > > > 5:54 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > I've seen

> > > > > a lot of

> > > > > > > things that

> > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > lack of

> > > > > sleep

> > > > > > > lowers a guys

> > > > > > > > > > testosterone.

> I used to

> > > sleep

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > like a

> > > > > baby before

> > > > > > > I started

> > > > > > > > > > noticing the

> low T

> > > symptoms.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> > > > > Eventually, after I

> > > > > > > get my

> > > > > > > > > > hormones

> squared away,

> > > will my

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > sleep

> > > > > improve? From

> > > > > > > what I've

> > > > > > > > > > read, complex

> hormonal

> > > stuff

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > happens

> > > > > at night.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > When I

> > > > > started

> > > > > > > noticing the low T

> > > > > > > > > > stuff and

> starting to

> > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > sleep, I

> > > > > started

> > > > > > > using melatonin.

> > > > > > > > > > It seemed to

> help

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > somewhat.

> > > > > Then I

> > > > > > > read that

> > > > > > > > > > melatonin

> being a

> > > hormone that is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > produced

> > > > > is not

> > > > > > > good for

> > > > > > > > > > testosterone

> in a high

> > > amount. Is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > this

> > > > > true?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > I'd give

> > > > > almost

> > > > > > > anything for a

> > > > > > > > > > good nights

> sleep. So

> > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > my wife,

> > > > > she's

> > > > > > > postmenopause. I've

> > > > > > > > > > read that

> some

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> > > > > testosterone might

> > > > > > > do her good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > >

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