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Janet:

My father had a tumor on his liver. He had a new treatment called Radio Frequency Ablation. What this procedure does is to insert a needle through the abdomen to the liver and - via ultrasound - locate the tumor mass(es). The surgeon then opens up the tip of the needle which resembles an upside-down umbrella to rest on top of the tumor. I do not believe it penetrates the tumor per se. A current is applied to the probe which raises the temperature of the tumor to 212 degrees F. This essentially " fries " the tumor(s) - much like an hard boiled egg.

My Dad had a pretty big tumor wrapped around the artery of his liver - rendering it inoperable, they told him to basically get his " affairs in order. " An euphemism for " there isn't anything we can do... " until this new procedure came along. After undergoing the RFA, he developed a fever of 101 for a couple of weeks. Turns out the tumor was dead and leeching toxins into his bloodstream. His white cells were fighting the infection from dead tumor cells. So the surgeons inserted another needle - this time to insert a tube to pierce the tumor and to drain it. A lot of pretty awful stuff came out. Right now he is getting back on his feet.. Tumor has shrunk to a fraction of its original size and recent CAT scans show an empty shell. There is some talk about going in (operating) and removing the shrunken tumor...but it is now a wait and see kind of approach.

Another patient undergoing this treatment in another hospital (closer to where I live) had multiple tumors (about 8 or 9) all over his liver. He had RFA and last we heard he is walking 5 miles a day and enjoying a new lease on life.

Radio Frequency Ablation is pretty neat because it does not require surgery or radiation or chemo, and only takes an overnight stay. In a recent case study in California, 12 patients underwent this procedure. One year later, 9 of the 12 are enjoying a much better quality of life. Some are in remission, some are under control, and some are touch and go. This is a 75% success rate.

Hospitals I know of, that perform RFA are Hitchcock Medical Center in Hanover, VT and Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester, NY. There are undoubtedly many others that perform this procedure in the US, but those are the only two I personally am aware of. Check out RFA on the web and you will get a small but definitive body of information.

As a sidenote, it helps to strengthen the person's liver with liver-specific supplements such as Milk Thistle.

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Liver cancer

Is there anyone out there who is having sucessfull alternative treatment for liver cancer. If so

please would you let me know as soon as possible.

thankyou Janet Bowman

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Dear Janet,

My father had liver cancer which was a direct

result of Hepatitus C - he was

diagnosed last September and stopped ALL

conventional cancer treatments

last December... Between my sis and I we found

MANY useful alternative

treatments that my dad used. His doctors were

amazed at how well he did

considering the stage that he was in at the

time... they put a question mark

beside his name on his medical chart because they

couldn't figure it out!!!

Unfortunately, my dad lost his battle this past

July 11... but please do not let

this scare you from finding out all that you can

from the knowledge and contacts

that I have acquired since I began to help my dear

sweet dad on his journey into

uncharted territory!!!

If I can help you with further information on

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Dee

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Hi,

A very dear friend of mine has just been diagnosed with liver cancer. I have been cured from multiple myaloma and I understand his situation.

I know nothing about liver cancer treatment. Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Hi,

A very dear friend of mine has just been diagnosed with liver cancer. I have been cured from multiple myaloma and I understand his situation.

I know nothing about liver cancer treatment. Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Hello Maude. my husband has liver caner, and I have put him on Essiac tea, Vit B17 and apricot seeds Vit. C slow release and Intra an immune system build up. He is doing well and his doctors are very pleased with him. Something seems to be working. You must start now with some alternative treatment.

Hope that your friend does well. Janet.

Liver cancer

Hi,

A very dear friend of mine has just been diagnosed with liver cancer. I have been cured from multiple myaloma and I understand his situation.

I know nothing about liver cancer treatment. Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

Johann Labuschagne

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Hello Mauds (Johann Labuschagne), haven't conversed with you in some time.

You say you cured your Multiple Myeloma. If you don't mind, please share

with me the protocol you used to heal yourself. I am healing but not there

all the way yet, my Sr.Protine continues to inch upwards each month and my

Red Count down slightly. My Onocologist/Hematologist stated today that if

it continues to go up he will insist on Chemo (which I have avoided all

this time )to make room in the bonemarrow for healthy cells to grow. I

suggested it would lower the Red Count even more and he said it was a

Double edged Sword. Hope to hear what all you have been doing. Sincerely

Yours,Liz At 06:06 AM 08/13/1999 +0200, you wrote:

> Hi, I know nothing about liver cancer treatment. Your advice will

>be greatly appreciated. Johann Labuschagne

>

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OH HI!

This is sooooooooo exciting!!!!!

Thank you for taking the time to share that here! Liver cancer is

EASY(but not simple, as you have found) to cure, because it regrows itself

the best of ANY ORGAN!!!! So wonderful to hear that you DID IT.

Life is worth living and wonderful!

Always be well,

At 03:50 AM 01/15/2000 -0800, you wrote:

>I have been absent from the list for some months, however the members

>of the group have been in our thoughts. I have been informed that

>someone has been asking about what to do for liver cancer. First, may

>I say that my wife had cholongia carcinoma with heptatic metastes (bile

>duct with liver secondaries) in '97. She was never treated by western

>medicine apart from the insertion of stents and two monthly checks. In

>(about) November last year we were told that there was no clinical

>evidence. We treated the cancer with a number of things. It's not

>possible to say exactly what we did, but basicaly we used herbs,

>vitamins and pancreatic/digestive enzymes, meditation and belief. We

>adhered to a vegetarian diet with mainly raw and light food with barley

>green in a couple of juices each day, and plenty of juices instead of

>food when the going was too tough to eat. Juices and vegetarian diet

>remain a major part of our routine even now. We also used flax oil and

>cottege cheese and still do. If anyone would like, I can suuply closer

>details if required. Just e-mail me. I'm only too pleased to help.

>

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liver cancer

>I have been absent from the list for some months, however the members

>of the group have been in our thoughts. I have been informed that

>someone has been asking about what to do for liver cancer. First, may

>I say that my wife had cholongia carcinoma with heptatic metastes (bile

>duct with liver secondaries) in '97. She was never treated by western

>medicine apart from the insertion of stents and two monthly checks. In

>(about) November last year we were told that there was no clinical

>evidence. We treated the cancer with a number of things. It's not

>possible to say exactly what we did, but basicaly we used herbs,

>vitamins and pancreatic/digestive enzymes, meditation and belief. We

>adhered to a vegetarian diet with mainly raw and light food with barley

>green in a couple of juices each day, and plenty of juices instead of

>food when the going was too tough to eat. Juices and vegetarian diet

>remain a major part of our routine even now. We also used flax oil and

>cottege cheese and still do. If anyone would like, I can suuply closer

>details if required. Just e-mail me. I'm only too pleased to help.

>

>

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, the answer on the essiac tea is called Rene Caisse essiac tea from

Canada. It comes in a green box and you boil it to make tea. You can get it

from health food stores. GOD BLESS, Tammy

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Dear ,

As I read your message my head was pounding with pain as I know exactly your

mother and yourself are going through. My wife has breast cancer that

metastasized to her bones, liver, lung and just recently an MRI showed that

it also invaded her brain. Her symptoms were abrupt. two weeks ago, we still

do ballroom dancing, then all of a sudden, she became dizzy and weak. That's

when we found out that she has a large tumor in her cerebellum.

Right now, I am in a frantic mode finding out the best alternative medicine

there is. I am using the internet to find all the availble AltMed and found

out ESSIAC and SPES which looks like have promised as both has clinical and

laboratory data plus testimonials from Doctors themselves, to support their

claim of helping out cancer patients. I will share with you whatever

information I have.

Re your query about Resperin who manufactured ESSIAC, I am not aware of its

presence in Scandinavia. There are many companies claiming to be the genuine

ESSIAC product, by I put my faith to the one made by Resperin company based

in Canada. Why don't you write Resperin company directly and see if they

have a branch in your country.

My wife is taking ESSIAC since last Sunday. Today will be her 8th dosage of

ESSIAC and quite honestly, I couldn't see any improvement yet as she is also

undergoing radiation to the whole brain. I have arrange with the Radiologist

that after the 20 treatment, an MRI needs to be conducted to determine the

results of either the radiation treatment or the ESSIAC. I know it takes a

while before AltMed effect registered, but I am hoping that it will.

There is another AltMed that I am seriously considering, SPES. One of its

claimed benefits is pain reliever aside from controlling the growth of

cancer. I have contacted the Sloan-Ketttering Doctor who is self-treating

himself with SPES, but has not received any reply as of this date.

Let's get in touch and exchange information. I am located in Washington,

D.C. in USA.

Let us not loose hope that this malady that affected our love ones will not

be defeated. I will pray for your mother too!

Sonny

Liver cancer

>Hello!

>

>I am not sure if this is the right place to ask my question, but trying

>won`t heart:

>

>My mother got sick from breast cancer two years ago and one year ago she

>was told that it had spread to the bone. 2 days ago she got the message

>that the liver is affected, and that in spite of her every three month

>examination, that was done 1 month ago! The cancer seems to be very

>aggressive and that scares me!

>

>I have been reading on the internet that Essiac Tea is a well known

>herbal tea in the USA that helps people getting " cured " from liver

>cancer in particularly, but also other types of cancer. So my question

>will be: Do you know if Resperin, Canada (the name of the firm that

>represent the mark) has any partners in Scandinavia, in particularly

>Norway, Oslo?

>

>I would be very grateful if you can help in this matter, because I have

>tried to talk to doctors who works with alternative medicine here in

>Oslo, Norway, and non of them have heard of the product.

>

>I am looking forward to hearing from you.

>

>Kind regards,

>

>

>

>

>

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I hope you have read the book " A Cancer Battle Plan " by Anne and Dave Frohm.

Also look into MGN3. You can get it at " Vitaminshoppe.com " and read about it by

doing a search on the internet. It is from Lane Labs and does a remarkable job

of building the immune system.

Good Bless You

>>> " NSA " <nalejandrino@...> 03/15/00 12:32PM >>>

Dear ,

As I read your message my head was pounding with pain as I know exactly your

mother and yourself are going through. My wife has breast cancer that

metastasized to her bones, liver, lung and just recently an MRI showed that

it also invaded her brain. Her symptoms were abrupt. two weeks ago, we still

do ballroom dancing, then all of a sudden, she became dizzy and weak. That's

when we found out that she has a large tumor in her cerebellum.

Right now, I am in a frantic mode finding out the best alternative medicine

there is. I am using the internet to find all the availble AltMed and found

out ESSIAC and SPES which looks like have promised as both has clinical and

laboratory data plus testimonials from Doctors themselves, to support their

claim of helping out cancer patients. I will share with you whatever

information I have.

Re your query about Resperin who manufactured ESSIAC, I am not aware of its

presence in Scandinavia. There are many companies claiming to be the genuine

ESSIAC product, by I put my faith to the one made by Resperin company based

in Canada. Why don't you write Resperin company directly and see if they

have a branch in your country.

My wife is taking ESSIAC since last Sunday. Today will be her 8th dosage of

ESSIAC and quite honestly, I couldn't see any improvement yet as she is also

undergoing radiation to the whole brain. I have arrange with the Radiologist

that after the 20 treatment, an MRI needs to be conducted to determine the

results of either the radiation treatment or the ESSIAC. I know it takes a

while before AltMed effect registered, but I am hoping that it will.

There is another AltMed that I am seriously considering, SPES. One of its

claimed benefits is pain reliever aside from controlling the growth of

cancer. I have contacted the Sloan-Ketttering Doctor who is self-treating

himself with SPES, but has not received any reply as of this date.

Let's get in touch and exchange information. I am located in Washington,

D.C. in USA.

Let us not loose hope that this malady that affected our love ones will not

be defeated. I will pray for your mother too!

Sonny

Liver cancer

>Hello!

>

>I am not sure if this is the right place to ask my question, but trying

>won`t heart:

>

>My mother got sick from breast cancer two years ago and one year ago she

>was told that it had spread to the bone. 2 days ago she got the message

>that the liver is affected, and that in spite of her every three month

>examination, that was done 1 month ago! The cancer seems to be very

>aggressive and that scares me!

>

>I have been reading on the internet that Essiac Tea is a well known

>herbal tea in the USA that helps people getting " cured " from liver

>cancer in particularly, but also other types of cancer. So my question

>will be: Do you know if Resperin, Canada (the name of the firm that

>represent the mark) has any partners in Scandinavia, in particularly

>Norway, Oslo?

>

>I would be very grateful if you can help in this matter, because I have

>tried to talk to doctors who works with alternative medicine here in

>Oslo, Norway, and non of them have heard of the product.

>

>I am looking forward to hearing from you.

>

>Kind regards,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

I agreed that " A Cancer Battle Plan " by Anne and Dave Frohm, is a fantastic

book. Anybody with cancer should read it. It certainly helps, esp good for

people, lost like me, when my husband was first diagnosed.

Peggie

Liver cancer

>Hello!

>

>I am not sure if this is the right place to ask my question, but trying

>won`t heart:

>

>My mother got sick from breast cancer two years ago and one year ago she

>was told that it had spread to the bone. 2 days ago she got the message

>that the liver is affected, and that in spite of her every three month

>examination, that was done 1 month ago! The cancer seems to be very

>aggressive and that scares me!

>

>I have been reading on the internet that Essiac Tea is a well known

>herbal tea in the USA that helps people getting " cured " from liver

>cancer in particularly, but also other types of cancer. So my question

>will be: Do you know if Resperin, Canada (the name of the firm that

>represent the mark) has any partners in Scandinavia, in particularly

>Norway, Oslo?

>

>I would be very grateful if you can help in this matter, because I have

>tried to talk to doctors who works with alternative medicine here in

>Oslo, Norway, and non of them have heard of the product.

>

>I am looking forward to hearing from you.

>

>Kind regards,

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks. " A Cancer Battle Plan " by Anne and Dave Frohm was the first book my

wife and I read. I also recommend it.

Sonny

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>Hi,

>I agreed that " A Cancer Battle Plan " by Anne and Dave Frohm, is a fantastic

>book. Anybody with cancer should read it. It certainly helps, esp good for

>people, lost like me, when my husband was first diagnosed.

>Peggie

> Liver cancer

>

>

>>Hello!

>>

>>I am not sure if this is the right place to ask my question, but trying

>>won`t heart:

>>

>>My mother got sick from breast cancer two years ago and one year ago she

>>was told that it had spread to the bone. 2 days ago she got the message

>>that the liver is affected, and that in spite of her every three month

>>examination, that was done 1 month ago! The cancer seems to be very

>>aggressive and that scares me!

>>

>>I have been reading on the internet that Essiac Tea is a well known

>>herbal tea in the USA that helps people getting " cured " from liver

>>cancer in particularly, but also other types of cancer. So my question

>>will be: Do you know if Resperin, Canada (the name of the firm that

>>represent the mark) has any partners in Scandinavia, in particularly

>>Norway, Oslo?

>>

>>I would be very grateful if you can help in this matter, because I have

>>tried to talk to doctors who works with alternative medicine here in

>>Oslo, Norway, and non of them have heard of the product.

>>

>>I am looking forward to hearing from you.

>>

>>Kind regards,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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> Canada. It comes in a green box and you boil it to make tea. You can get it

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Judi Krafft wrote:

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> I hope you have read the book " A Cancer Battle Plan " by Anne and Dave Frohm.

Also look into MGN3. You can get it at " Vitaminshoppe.com " and read about it by

doing a search on the internet. It is from Lane Labs and does a remarkable job

of building the immune system.

> Good Bless You

>

> >>> " NSA " <nalejandrino@...> 03/15/00 12:32PM >>>

> Dear ,

>

> As I read your message my head was pounding with pain as I know exactly your

> mother and yourself are going through. My wife has breast cancer that

> metastasized to her bones, liver, lung and just recently an MRI showed that

> it also invaded her brain. Her symptoms were abrupt. two weeks ago, we still

> do ballroom dancing, then all of a sudden, she became dizzy and weak. That's

> when we found out that she has a large tumor in her cerebellum.

>

> Right now, I am in a frantic mode finding out the best alternative medicine

> there is. I am using the internet to find all the availble AltMed and found

> out ESSIAC and SPES which looks like have promised as both has clinical and

> laboratory data plus testimonials from Doctors themselves, to support their

> claim of helping out cancer patients. I will share with you whatever

> information I have.

>

> Re your query about Resperin who manufactured ESSIAC, I am not aware of its

> presence in Scandinavia. There are many companies claiming to be the genuine

> ESSIAC product, by I put my faith to the one made by Resperin company based

> in Canada. Why don't you write Resperin company directly and see if they

> have a branch in your country.

>

> My wife is taking ESSIAC since last Sunday. Today will be her 8th dosage of

> ESSIAC and quite honestly, I couldn't see any improvement yet as she is also

> undergoing radiation to the whole brain. I have arrange with the Radiologist

> that after the 20 treatment, an MRI needs to be conducted to determine the

> results of either the radiation treatment or the ESSIAC. I know it takes a

> while before AltMed effect registered, but I am hoping that it will.

>

> There is another AltMed that I am seriously considering, SPES. One of its

> claimed benefits is pain reliever aside from controlling the growth of

> cancer. I have contacted the Sloan-Ketttering Doctor who is self-treating

> himself with SPES, but has not received any reply as of this date.

>

> Let's get in touch and exchange information. I am located in Washington,

> D.C. in USA.

>

> Let us not loose hope that this malady that affected our love ones will not

> be defeated. I will pray for your mother too!

>

> Sonny

>

> Liver cancer

>

> >Hello!

> >

> >I am not sure if this is the right place to ask my question, but trying

> >won`t heart:

> >

> >My mother got sick from breast cancer two years ago and one year ago she

> >was told that it had spread to the bone. 2 days ago she got the message

> >that the liver is affected, and that in spite of her every three month

> >examination, that was done 1 month ago! The cancer seems to be very

> >aggressive and that scares me!

> >

> >I have been reading on the internet that Essiac Tea is a well known

> >herbal tea in the USA that helps people getting " cured " from liver

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I really don't know where to begin. Essiac Tea is so commonly available

here-If your alternative doctors haven't HEARD of it?

You live near Germany. They have a much more active alternative movement. Is

there any hope of getting in touch with them? The Codex regulations are

trying to impose the system you are suffering under on the rest of the

world, together with the German Pharmaceutical companies. Can you tavel to a

neighboring country? There have been successful clinical trials of

Dr.Burzynski's antineoplastons for liver cancer conducted in Japan. I don't

know if that can help you. There have been some reports of success using

Ozone therapy in liver cancer. Is that available there? I know Ozone is used

in Europe especially in Germany. Do you have any homeopathic doctors in

Norway? They might have something. Can you get fresh organic vegetables to

juice? Carrots and dark leafy greens like spinach,collards, swiss chard and

mustard greens are good.You may have to meet some people in Norway who know

what is available or go through some kind of political action to loosen the

resrtictions being imposed on you. But that may take a while. In the process

of seeking this kind of change you might be exercising the sense of

empowerment and feeling that You or your relative is taking his health into

his own hands essential for a recovery.

Good luck,

Arnold Gore

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Liver cancer

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> My mother got sick from breast cancer two years ago and one year ago she

> was told that it had spread to the bone. 2 days ago she got the message

> that the liver is affected, and that in spite of her every three month

> examination, that was done 1 month ago! The cancer seems to be very

> aggressive and that scares me!

>

> I have been reading on the internet that Essiac Tea is a well known

> herbal tea in the USA that helps people getting " cured " from liver

> cancer in particularly, but also other types of cancer. So my question

> will be: Do you know if Resperin, Canada (the name of the firm that

> represent the mark) has any partners in Scandinavia, in particularly

> Norway, Oslo?

>

> I would be very grateful if you can help in this matter, because I have

> tried to talk to doctors who works with alternative medicine here in

> Oslo, Norway, and non of them have heard of the product.

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Hi ,

I live in Germany. If you need any information, or therapies from german

clinics,

just let me know.

Did you hear about Dr. Budwigs therapie ?

My e-mail adress is: pelcka@...

God bless you and your family,

Achim

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Hi ,

Thanks for the inspiring information. You say Donna was on a vegetarian diet. What is her Blood Type? Dr.d'Adamo says that some Blood types don't do well on a vegetarian diet. How is Donna getting oter B complex vitamins?

arnold

liver cancer

I have read with interest the views dealing with liver cancer of late, and while I agree with most of it, I thought the group may wish to read of some of the things we have come up with while healing my wife of the disease. Donna was diagnosed in 1997 with cancer of the bile duct, liver metastases and "shadows" on her lungs. Her condition was such that the doctors believed that it was a waste of resources to treat her with any of the western medicine options and so we were left with a prognosis of four weeks and none of the options that we had heard about (chemo etc). I now believe that chemo is probably the worst thing one can do for liver cancer, but that is not why I write here.

Broadly speaking, there are three groups which drive 85% of all cancers, these are nutrition, emotions and virus. The first thing we did was to identify the virus which was involved with Donna's cancer. Of course, most liver cancers have Hep. B involvement, but we found that in our case, Epstein Barr was also involved and I immediately obtained homeopathic immunizations against these virus. Donna at that stage was unable to even swallow so I rubbed them on her stomach in order for them to be absorbed. I then addressed the nutritional aspect of the diet and did the things we hear about on this list day by day - elimination of animal protein etc. We also cut out all caffeine, sugars, salt etc. I found that Donna was subject to infection as the only thing the doctors did in those early days, was to insert two external biliary drains. As these had to flushed each day, infection was an ever present danger and in fact, she was subject to infection for the first four months or so. I found that by eliminating not only sugar, but also fruit and later on high carbohydrate foods, any infections were brought under control. She hasn't had an infection now for 2 1/2 years. (nor does she have the external drains - the removal of which I have never heard of in this country) The average time to clear infections using diet was about a week. It was about this time that I discovered through a friend's research that grains in fact cause the immune system to not function at it's peak. The lectins in grains disguise the communication between CD4 & CD8 T cells, thus causing the immune system to function below par. This research was carried out through the National Institute of Biological Medicine here in Australia over a period of years and has involved over four thousand people so far. Grains inhibit the function of the immune system. Take them out of the diet and within ten days the immune system will improve. All grains. It's difficult to do I know, but it works and there is plenty of evidence to show the results. This flies in the face of all nutrition known at this time - but then, it's not the first time thats happened in human history.

I note that some advice has been to have fruit in the diet. I would advise people with liver cancer at least, not to take any citrus with the exception of lemon (in water). We now advise people with any cancer to avoid citrus because of the acidic effect. For the same reason potatoes and tomatoes should be avoided at least in the early days. Most of the food Donna had before we knew her tumors had stopped growing was raw. Perhaps the next controversial thing I would add here is to avoid juices made of fruit and those high in carbohydrates. The reason for this is the creation of a glucose spike and so the consequent production of insulin by the pancreas. I believe that those people with cancer already have a compromised pancreas and an over production of insulin because of high intake of fruits and carbohydrate juices simply adds to the problem. One way to over come the glucose spike problem is to add back the pulp or, as we did add Barley Green powder. This has the additional benefit of increasing the nutritional content.

A couple of other things we did from day one - Swedish Bitters has been a consistent and twice daily thing. This product can be used from everything from cuts and abrasions to internal (as Donna takes it ) medicine. In fact I did use it to make a paultice for her liver in the early days. I used pads soaked in the stuf and wrapped in cabbage leaves then placed over her liver. It was at this time that the tumours started to recede) It consists of a range of bitter herbs and I think this may be related to B17 although I have no proof. Liver Tone is another liquid herbal preparation as is Astra Forte to improve the immune system. Essiac has been taken every day. One other decoction which I believe is partly responsible for my wife's recovery is a preparation made from 3 parts calendula to 1 part each of stinging nettle, horsetail, yarrow and red clover. This is made each day in something like a coffee plunger and simply refilled each time it runs out. A new brew is made each day. This flushes the kidneys and so assists in reducing pain in the groin and lower back which poor kidney function will do through the involvement of muscles in this area.

Cancer of the bile duct (cholongiacarcinoma) is rare and healing from it is rarer and as a consequence, Donna has received National exposure in this country through TV and magazines (she now has no cancer in her liver, bile duct or lungs) and because of this she counsels many people with cancer thus her emotional involvement in the disease is addressed daily through this work, however, for those who do not have this benefit, may I say that the elimination of most things negative is necessary. Remember that all actions come from a thought. Positive thoughts positive actions and for this reason, it is my belief that mediation should be a daily practice. Look at those who experience a so called miraculous recovery, and the majority of them practice meditation daily. Do not allow your thinking to become narrow. I have been a member of this list now for a couple of years, but found that at times it was best to delete (sorry Bob) incoming mail because there for a while things simply got out of hand. Even now I will delete what appears to be negative or argumentative because I simply dont want that in my life - and we are never all going to agree anyway.

Regarding vaccines and immunizations - we have used homeopathic preparations including autogonous vaccines from our naturopath. We imported one from Tokyo once at a cost of 240000yen. The homeopaths cost $12.50. and work just as well. The supplements Donna takes include the strongest preparations from the local health food shop only, and include the range of vitamins with the exception of B group, selenium and herbs directly targeting the liver such as St 's Thistle licorice Root and dandelion although I was careful to introduce liver herbs gradually as some of these cause increased bile flow from the liver, which is not wanted with this disease. I reintroduce vit B occasionaly and "cycle" it's use, but definately not to be used while ever the cancer is acative. She has B2 & folic acid daily so I am really only talking about B complex here.

I trust this helps. For those interested, the Australian number for the National Institute of Biological Medicine is 0262950005 and the biologist in charge is Bill Giles.

Kind regards.

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I have read with interest the views dealing with liver cancer of late, and while I agree with most of it, I thought the group may wish to read of some of the things we have come up with while healing my wife of the disease. Donna was diagnosed in 1997 with cancer of the bile duct, liver metastases and " shadows " on her lungs. Her condition was such that the doctors believed that it was a waste of resources to treat her with any of the western medicine options and so we were left with a prognosis of four weeks and none of the options that we had heard about (chemo etc). I now believe that chemo is probably the worst thing one can do for liver cancer, but that is not why I write here.

Broadly speaking, there are three groups which drive 85% of all cancers, these are nutrition, emotions and virus. The first thing we did was to identify the virus which was involved with Donna's cancer. Of course, most liver cancers have Hep. B involvement, but we found that in our case, Epstein Barr was also involved and I immediately obtained homeopathic immunizations against these virus. Donna at that stage was unable to even swallow so I rubbed them on her stomach in order for them to be absorbed. I then addressed the nutritional aspect of the diet and did the things we hear about on this list day by day - elimination of animal protein etc. We also cut out all caffeine, sugars, salt etc. I found that Donna was subject to infection as the only thing the doctors did in those early days, was to insert two external biliary drains. As these had to flushed each day, infection was an ever present danger and in fact, she was subject to infection for the first four months or so. I found that by eliminating not only sugar, but also fruit and later on high carbohydrate foods, any infections were brought under control. She hasn't had an infection now for 2 1/2 years. (nor does she have the external drains - the removal of which I have never heard of in this country) The average time to clear infections using diet was about a week. It was about this time that I discovered through a friend's research that grains in fact cause the immune system to not function at it's peak. The lectins in grains disguise the communication between CD4 & CD8 T cells, thus causing the immune system to function below par. This research was carried out through the National Institute of Biological Medicine here in Australia over a period of years and has involved over four thousand people so far. Grains inhibit the function of the immune system. Take them out of the diet and within ten days the immune system will improve. All grains. It's difficult to do I know, but it works and there is plenty of evidence to show the results. This flies in the face of all nutrition known at this time - but then, it's not the first time thats happened in human history.

I note that some advice has been to have fruit in the diet. I would advise people with liver cancer at least, not to take any citrus with the exception of lemon (in water). We now advise people with any cancer to avoid citrus because of the acidic effect. For the same reason potatoes and tomatoes should be avoided at least in the early days. Most of the food Donna had before we knew her tumors had stopped growing was raw. Perhaps the next controversial thing I would add here is to avoid juices made of fruit and those high in carbohydrates. The reason for this is the creation of a glucose spike and so the consequent production of insulin by the pancreas. I believe that those people with cancer already have a compromised pancreas and an over production of insulin because of high intake of fruits and carbohydrate juices simply adds to the problem. One way to over come the glucose spike problem is to add back the pulp or, as we did add Barley Green powder. This has the additional benefit of increasing the nutritional content.

A couple of other things we did from day one - Swedish Bitters has been a consistent and twice daily thing. This product can be used from everything from cuts and abrasions to internal (as Donna takes it ) medicine. In fact I did use it to make a paultice for her liver in the early days. I used pads soaked in the stuf and wrapped in cabbage leaves then placed over her liver. It was at this time that the tumours started to recede) It consists of a range of bitter herbs and I think this may be related to B17 although I have no proof. Liver Tone is another liquid herbal preparation as is Astra Forte to improve the immune system. Essiac has been taken every day. One other decoction which I believe is partly responsible for my wife's recovery is a preparation made from 3 parts calendula to 1 part each of stinging nettle, horsetail, yarrow and red clover. This is made each day in something like a coffee plunger and simply refilled each time it runs out. A new brew is made each day. This flushes the kidneys and so assists in reducing pain in the groin and lower back which poor kidney function will do through the involvement of muscles in this area.

Cancer of the bile duct (cholongiacarcinoma) is rare and healing from it is rarer and as a consequence, Donna has received National exposure in this country through TV and magazines (she now has no cancer in her liver, bile duct or lungs) and because of this she counsels many people with cancer thus her emotional involvement in the disease is addressed daily through this work, however, for those who do not have this benefit, may I say that the elimination of most things negative is necessary. Remember that all actions come from a thought. Positive thoughts positive actions and for this reason, it is my belief that mediation should be a daily practice. Look at those who experience a so called miraculous recovery, and the majority of them practice meditation daily. Do not allow your thinking to become narrow. I have been a member of this list now for a couple of years, but found that at times it was best to delete (sorry Bob) incoming mail because there for a while things simply got out of hand. Even now I will delete what appears to be negative or argumentative because I simply dont want that in my life - and we are never all going to agree anyway.

Regarding vaccines and immunizations - we have used homeopathic preparations including autogonous vaccines from our naturopath. We imported one from Tokyo once at a cost of 240000yen. The homeopaths cost $12.50. and work just as well. The supplements Donna takes include the strongest preparations from the local health food shop only, and include the range of vitamins with the exception of B group, selenium and herbs directly targeting the liver such as St 's Thistle licorice Root and dandelion although I was careful to introduce liver herbs gradually as some of these cause increased bile flow from the liver, which is not wanted with this disease. I reintroduce vit B occasionaly and " cycle " it's use, but definately not to be used while ever the cancer is acative. She has B2 & folic acid daily so I am really only talking about B complex here.

I trust this helps. For those interested, the Australian number for the National Institute of Biological Medicine is 0262950005 and the biologist in charge is Bill Giles.

Kind regards.

. A. Allan

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Hi Arnold. Maybe you can help clarify this problem for me. I have

recently learned that a chemo patient should not take multiple Vitamin

suppliments because of the folic acid due to it's action in helping red

blood cells to divide? If this is true. Are there any multiple Vitamin

suppliments for a patient recieving chemo (to help build the immune system)

that does not contain folic acid? Thank you. Ciro291

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