liver cancer

[Guest guest]

,

Sounds very interesting. Runners have all different kinds of diets, but those who keep at it over the years, such as myself and some of my friends usually have a very healthy diet. The runners who lose their conditioning and drop out usually have poor eating habits. Some of the early liver cancer therapies used tissues of fresh liver from sheep, horse and buffalo, but digestion becomes a limiting factor.

Thanks for the detailed reply.

Good luck,

Arnold

liver cancer

Arnold,

Donna's blood type is O+ which I realise is a group which (according to Dr. D'Adamo) is a meat eater and so not suitable to a vegetarian diet, however even though I was aware of this at the time, I also considered the fact that she was unable to digest animal protein at the sharp end of her illness. I felt that we would be better served to concentrate on vegetarianism in the short term, whilst her system was getting back to some form of normality. I believed that plenty of Vit. B could be obtained from all the greens she ate in salads and dark leafy greens which have always been a part of her recovery diet. Supplemental B, I think, is a little like sugars in that although our normal cells require them, the cancer cells are able to beat our body to their use and so all we do is to strengthen those cancer cells. Incidentally, I find it interesting that Dr. D'Adamo lists O type people as those who revel in physical exercise - my wife was a marathon runner and a ballet dancer. I also think that this type of over-exercising and the poor diets of such people, contributed to her particular cancer where they typically bulk up on carbohydrates etc before run and then are unable to eat much of anything on the other side of the race.

Kind regards

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[Guest guest]

I have been struggling with the thoughts of any immune boosters or anything

such as folic acid and the claims that these should not be used with chemo

treatments.

I am not in anyway giving advice, I only wish to hear the responce of what I

have come to believe.

It is well known that chemo kills off all fast growing cells including

healthy ones.

It is well known that immune booster and other products help cells to divide

faster and antioxodants rid of toxic waste.

So.. I have come to the conclusion that if one is having chemo and

compliments it with an immune booster or anything to help the cells reproduce

this would be benificial in helping the chemo rid of the cancer cells the

first time. Then to continue with all natural foods and appropriate diet and

suppliments would encourage the body to keep making healthy cells to avoid a

reoccurance. The use of antioxidants and such would help rid of the dead

cells that chemo has destroyed.

Like I said this is only my personal opinion and would welcome any feedback.

Maybe I am missing something?

[Guest guest]

,

I have also been lurking and gathering information on these lists.

My husband has NSCLC with metastases. We have taken a nutritional approach

to treating this disease because we feel the same way that you do. We are

concentrating on products to boost the immune system as well as antioxidants.

We also have some products on the list that also have anti-tumor properties.

We get a lot of the products from the life extension foundation at

www.lef.org. They also have a lot of information on therapies for cancer. I

am fortunate that I work for a physician that also practices clinical

nutrition so he has helped me put together the program my husband is on. I

have done most of the research for him because there is so much out there it

was difficult to know what was really going to work. He has been on the

program for over 3 months now and is doing great. He finished radiation and

will now start chemo and will be in the Iressa study. The oncologist has no

objection to the nutritional program and it will not have to be stopped

during the treatments.

My husband and I have a great attitude that he will beat this because the

more we read about the people who have survived with worse problems than his

the more we realize that we must do all we can to help him. So, your theory

about the cells is right on because as the chemo kills the cells the cells

that are left need to have the proper nutrients in order to grow into

stronger cells.

We are also doing the flax seed oil and cottage cheese because the theory

behind that makes sense also with the Omega 3 fatty acids being deficient in

the cells. We are also using a tea called Vitalitea which is similar to

Essiac. It only contains the 4 main herbs. We could not use the Essiac tea

because it contains the herb Red clover which my husband cannot take. He has

a deep vein thrombosis and needs to be on heparin so he cannot use anything

that will alter his blood.

Flo

[Guest guest]

Flo,

Aquick question.

I am using Heparin to flush my PICC line. Could this herb cause troule for me?

I am not using Essiac, I am using Tahitian Noni and it works wonders for me,

I also have 1000 mg vit C , 800 iu of vit E, and 10 000 iu of beta carotine

with vit C & E in it. With all of this I am taking Tia Chi and eating a well

balanced diet, consiting of alot of raw vegs and fruit. I juice 2 8 ounce

glasses of fruit daily.

I have flax oil in the fridge, but am still learning about it.

I do not have any mass tumors to shrink. The tumor was in my uterus and has

been removed. What is left, is in the bone. I am at a stage 4 aswell and

really am reaching for all avenues. I do not want to do anything without

ful;l knowledge of the pouduct.

So far like I said I am doing very well, If it weren`t for the hair loss, no

one would ever know about my cancer. The rough days are 24 hours after chemo

that is all. I actually feel better now than I have in the last three years.

I have not had an infection in two months. The last three years, I had an

infections every three weeks including phenumonia, candidis, cysts of the

breasts, skin infections and bladder infections.

This si not meant as a promotion of chemo, just my story.

Thanks for your response, I thought I was the only one who could make sence

of my therory.

Good heath and Happy Halloween.

[Guest guest]

,

The Red clover herb would not cause you any trouble because you are only

using a small amount of heparin which is only to flush out the line. My

husband in on low molecular weight heparin by injection. This heparin works

continuously for 12 hours at a time so it is always in his blood thinning it.

The heparin you are using is only to keep you line clean. So you don't need

to worry about that.

Some of the alternative supplements we are using consist of mushroon

extracts such as Maitake D-Fraction (shitake mushroom), MGN3, Coriolus

versicolor mushroom which are for the immune system. We also use the vitamin

C and have increased the amount of 6,0000 mg daily along with Vitamin E,

Garlic, Cod Liver oil, Shark liver oil, grape seed extract, green tea

extract, as well a drinking green tea and grape juice. He takes the flax

seed oil and cottage cheese because the Omega 3. Check out the information

on the flax seed oil as it sounds promising. He also takes magnesium,

B-complex, L-Carnitine, and CoQ10.

We went to the oncologist today to see about the chemo. We had to put the

chemo on hold last week because of phlebitis so we saw him today to discuss

the start date. We needed to have scans done prior to entering into the

Iressa study and one of the scans was a MUGA scan to check the heart. Prior

to my husband getting the cancer he had a cardiac problem with heart damage

from prior chemo 20 years ago. Well, to our surprise, the MUGA scan came out

just fine. His heart function was better than we thought. The onc thought it

was because my husband had his left lower lobe removed due to the tumor and

that that reduced the lung volume, therefore the heart is better. I

wonder.............was it that or all the nutritional supplements he has been

on for over 3 months......... I really do believe in the body's ability to

heal itself if it is given the proper nutrients to do so. Also, his other CT

scans were also clean and that was 3 months without any treatment other than

to the brain and spine. So we are hopeful that with the chemo and trial drug

and the nutrition he will conquer this disease. Since there is no longer a

tumor we don't know how they will measure the effectiveness of the

treatments. But I'm glad we were able to take the tumor out. We have to do

the chemo because we don't want to miss anything and hope that with all the

nutrition he will not be too sick. The radiation knocked him out but all in

all his blood count was pretty good, very mild anemia,but the white count was

good. Immune function was a little low, but not bad so we feel the

supplements helped a great deal.

Try to do the flax seed oil. We are both taking it as I had skin cancer on

my nose and want to make sure I don't have any further problems with it.

Every night we blend our amounts of flax seed oil in 1/2 cup of cottage

cheese with our choice of fruit and stevia for sweetening and blend it

smooth. It tastes pretty good so we are able to eat it. You don't taste the

oil in the mixture.

Hope I was able to help you.

Flo

[Guest guest]

Sorry another question ,what is steva (sweetner)?

I like cottage cheese, I just recieverd a tape from Cliff and will listen to

it tomorrow. I`m ready to go with the flax oil just one concern,, If you

start it and miss any days, will this cause the cancer to reform? I have

heared alot about when people start using it and then stop, the cancer

returns...? I guess what the question playing in my mind is, does the flaw

oil suppress the cancer or rid of it?

[Guest guest]

How rude of me,, I am glad to hear that your husband past the test. I hope

all goes well for him. It sounds as though he has been trough a great deal.

Will you explain to me what the trial med is I am interested for curiosity

sake.

Keep me posted on how he is doing.

Thanks you have helped a great deal. I`m sending an angle your way, 0:)

[Guest guest]

,

That would be a good question to ask Cliff. My opinion is that if your

cells are deficient in Omega 3 and you replenish them with the flax seed oil

those cells are nourished because you are taking in the Omega 3's. When you

stop the flax seed oil, because the diet is poor in those Omega 3's, you

could then become deficient again and again have the recurrence. I don't

think that stopping the flax seed oil will cause the cancer to return because

you stopped the oil. If it were to return it would be because you again

became deficient in the Omega 3 oils. If we cannot get enough from the diet

in the first place so that we need to take the flax seed oil, then without

the flax seed oil we would become deficient again, setting up the vicious

cycle. So, if we keep our cells nourished with Omega 3's (flax seed oil)

the cancer should not come back. This is hard to do with diet alone.

Hope this was helpful.

Flo

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for your concern about my husband, and thanks for the angel. We also

are on a lot of prayer lists for the spiritual nourishment.

The Iressa drug is used in conjunction with taxol/carbo. It is supposed to

block a specific pathway in cancer growth which should prohibit the cells

from growing.

The research on it sounds promising. The only drawback that we can see at

this point is that the study is blinded so there is a possibility that he may

get a placebo.

But, we have a good feeling about the trial and that he will actually get the

drug.

My thoughts and prayers for you.

Flo

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

,

Sounds like your doing the right things, vegaetable juices sound good.What

is your blood Type? I have been very impressed with Dr.D " adamo's theory on

diet.

Arnold

Re: liver cancer

> Flo,

> Aquick question.

> I am using Heparin to flush my PICC line. Could this herb cause troule for

me?

> I am not using Essiac, I am using Tahitian Noni and it works wonders for

me,

> I also have 1000 mg vit C , 800 iu of vit E, and 10 000 iu of beta

carotine

> with vit C & E in it. With all of this I am taking Tia Chi and eating a well

> balanced diet, consiting of alot of raw vegs and fruit. I juice 2 8 ounce

> glasses of fruit daily.

> I have flax oil in the fridge, but am still learning about it.

> I do not have any mass tumors to shrink. The tumor was in my uterus and

has

> been removed. What is left, is in the bone. I am at a stage 4 aswell and

> really am reaching for all avenues. I do not want to do anything without

> ful;l knowledge of the pouduct.

> So far like I said I am doing very well, If it weren`t for the hair loss,

no

> one would ever know about my cancer. The rough days are 24 hours after

chemo

> that is all. I actually feel better now than I have in the last three

years.

> I have not had an infection in two months. The last three years, I had an

> infections every three weeks including phenumonia, candidis, cysts of the

> breasts, skin infections and bladder infections.

> This si not meant as a promotion of chemo, just my story.

>

> Thanks for your response, I thought I was the only one who could make

sence

> of my therory.

>

> Good heath and Happy Halloween.

>

>

>

>

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>From: " Arnold Gore " <arnoldgore@...>

>Reply-cures for canceregroups

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>CC: <JULIEJwlk@...>

>Subject: Re: liver cancer

>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 06:52:07 -0500

>

I would like information I Dr. D Adamo's diet as well. Could you tell me

how to get it? talked about it in the above message that you two had.

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In a message dated 4/12/01 2:26:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, hangbk@... writes:

Can anyone tell me the life expectancy after you have been diagnosed with liver cancer(nov, 1999), treatment is not an option.

Dear hangbk, I'm sorry I don't know the answer to your question. Also, I'm sorry that you or someone you know has liver cancer. I hope there is some sort of treatment that is an option, if only to make life more comfortable.

Best wishes.

Harper

[Guest guest]

Dave,

Your sister has a much better chance if she uses ozone therapy, LOTS of

ozonated water, combined with nutritional and herbal support, rather than

relying on only electromedicine for cancer. Continuing the electromedicine

won't hurt as it seems to increase cell membrane potential, and resultant

cellular efficiency. It's just not the preferred way and anyway,

practitioners almost never use a single bullet from the arsenal to achieve

their objective.

Ozone is funneled over the liver, given as a rectal inflation

(insufflation), and as a steam cabinet treatment. Please refer to

www./group/ozonetherapy , Saul Pessman's group, and email

saul@... for an ozone machine.

Refer to Ralph Moss' compiled work on cancer, herbs, and nutrients, in his

books, and see www.ralphmoss.com

ciao

Duncan Crow

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[Guest guest]

Hi , I have lung cancer that has spread to my liver. I'm a massage

therapist and took a continuing ed class this evening. The instructor (a

D.C.) gave us these herbs that aid liver detox and help the immune system:

turmeric, buswellia serrate, ginger, garlic, onion, bromelain, kudsu, white

willow bark, oil of rosemary, brocoli, and milk thistle (with an emphasis on

milk thistle as it regenerates the liver). Haven't tried any of it yet, but

plan to.

I'm sure there are many knowedgeable people on this list who can give you

many alternatives.

God bless,

Trish Kiermaier

[Guest guest]

Hi

I would like to suggest for your Turmeric you try Curcumin.

http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00552.html

I would like to suggest for your milk thistle you try Silibinin.

http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00496.html

And I would also like to suggest you try some se-methselenocysteine.

(selenium)

http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00567.html

Take care

Jim

> Hi , I have lung cancer that has spread to my liver. I'm a

massage

> therapist and took a continuing ed class this evening. The

instructor (a

> D.C.) gave us these herbs that aid liver detox and help the immune

system:

> turmeric, buswellia serrate, ginger, garlic, onion, bromelain,

kudsu, white

> willow bark, oil of rosemary, brocoli, and milk thistle (with an

emphasis on

> milk thistle as it regenerates the liver). Haven't tried any of it

yet, but

> plan to.

>

> I'm sure there are many knowedgeable people on this list who can

give you

> many alternatives.

>

> God bless,

>

> Trish Kiermaier

[Guest guest]

Can anyone answer this person directly and copy the list, please?

Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:38 PM

Subject: liver cancer

> Name: carolanne

> Email: e.gottwauld@!ns.sympatico.ca

> Comments: could you please send me some information on liver cancer ,my

daughters grand mother has it and i am very worried about it and i feel

really bad and i would like to know alot more about this type of cancer and

what the survival rate is , she is now in the process of getting kemo

treatments and some talk about maybe getting some surgery. as of now their

is now 6 tumors on her liver that they can see .and the kemo she is getting

is called systamatic ,so could you please try to help me understand this

some more and maybe some suggestions what we can do for her

> sinceraly yours

> carolanne

> p.s i would really appreciate the help thank you very much

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Can anyone answer this person directly and copy the list, please?

Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:38 PM

Subject: liver cancer

> Name: carolanne

> Email: e.gottwauld@!ns.sympatico.ca

> Comments: could you please send me some information on liver cancer ,my

daughters grand mother has it and i am very worried about it and i feel

really bad and i would like to know alot more about this type of cancer and

what the survival rate is , she is now in the process of getting kemo

treatments and some talk about maybe getting some surgery. as of now their

is now 6 tumors on her liver that they can see .and the kemo she is getting

is called systamatic ,so could you please try to help me understand this

some more and maybe some suggestions what we can do for her

> sinceraly yours

> carolanne

> p.s i would really appreciate the help thank you very much

>

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[Guest guest]

From: " Boswell " <eboswell@...>

> Very interesting article. Do you know what helps liver cancer

I've read/heard that the following do (particularly the CAPITALIZED

items):

FLAX, BORAGE, & FISH OILS

ASTRAGALUS--most effective if combined

w/ginseng & ligustrum

ginseng--may be effective for hepatoma and hepatocellular cancer

(and inhibits lung metastases)

licorice

MAITAKE mushroom

FU ZHEN/FU ZHENG (a Chinese herbal formula)

barberry root bark (in Hoxsey formula)--contains berberine, which

may be effective for hepatoma

IP6 w/inositol-- 5-8g/day total, taken in several doses on empty

stomach between meals

garlic-- effective for hepatoma 3924A

Burzynski's oral supplement's effective w/hepatoma

UREA--I don't know if it's safe to take w/o medical supervision.

CoQ10 (about 400mg) and cordalis? --recommended by Yance

Let me know if you'd like me to email you an attachment (offline)

w/more info, or if you'd like on clinics that report success w/liver

cancer.

Best wishes,

Leonard

[Guest guest]

Thanks Leonard:

I would be pleased to have anything you can send me.

Cheers,

Re: liver cancer

> From: " Boswell " <eboswell@...>

> > Very interesting article. Do you know what helps liver cancer

> I've read/heard that the following do (particularly the CAPITALIZED

> items):

>

> FLAX, BORAGE, & FISH OILS

>

> ASTRAGALUS--most effective if combined

> w/ginseng & ligustrum

>

> ginseng--may be effective for hepatoma and hepatocellular cancer

> (and inhibits lung metastases)

>

> licorice

> MAITAKE mushroom

>

> FU ZHEN/FU ZHENG (a Chinese herbal formula)

>

> barberry root bark (in Hoxsey formula)--contains berberine, which

> may be effective for hepatoma

>

> IP6 w/inositol-- 5-8g/day total, taken in several doses on empty

> stomach between meals

>

> garlic-- effective for hepatoma 3924A

>

> Burzynski's oral supplement's effective w/hepatoma

>

> UREA--I don't know if it's safe to take w/o medical supervision.

>

> CoQ10 (about 400mg) and cordalis? --recommended by Yance

>

> Let me know if you'd like me to email you an attachment (offline)

> w/more info, or if you'd like on clinics that report success w/liver

> cancer.

> Best wishes,

> Leonard

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/9/2004 12:25:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

eboswell@... writes:

Dear friends:

>

>

>

> We have helped quite a few customers to fight with cancers. The most

important thing is to advise them to avoid any GINSENG PRODUCTS (American,

Chinese, Korean, Panax, & Siberian), CAFFEINIC BEVERAGES, & ENERGETIC

TONICS.

>

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Ben

>

..

..>>> Ben

My son was recently diagnosed with cancer, WHY are the above to be avoided?

What is the basis for this?

thanks

mjh

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/9/04 12:25:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

eboswell@... writes:

> CAFFEINIC BEVERAGES, & ENERGETIC

> TONICS.

>

How does caffeine effect tumors?

[Guest guest]

Thaanks Leornard, I would like to have the attachment off-line, and the

clinic names.

eboswell@...

Re: liver cancer

> From: " Boswell " <eboswell@...>

> > Very interesting article. Do you know what helps liver cancer

> I've read/heard that the following do (particularly the CAPITALIZED

> items):

>

> FLAX, BORAGE, & FISH OILS

>

> ASTRAGALUS--most effective if combined

> w/ginseng & ligustrum

>

> ginseng--may be effective for hepatoma and hepatocellular cancer

> (and inhibits lung metastases)

>

> licorice

> MAITAKE mushroom

>

> FU ZHEN/FU ZHENG (a Chinese herbal formula)

>

> barberry root bark (in Hoxsey formula)--contains berberine, which

> may be effective for hepatoma

>

> IP6 w/inositol-- 5-8g/day total, taken in several doses on empty

> stomach between meals

>

> garlic-- effective for hepatoma 3924A

>

> Burzynski's oral supplement's effective w/hepatoma

>

> UREA--I don't know if it's safe to take w/o medical supervision.

>

> CoQ10 (about 400mg) and cordalis? --recommended by Yance

>

> Let me know if you'd like me to email you an attachment (offline)

> w/more info, or if you'd like on clinics that report success w/liver

> cancer.

> Best wishes,

> Leonard

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm sorry but I really don't know, but I put into my google search statistics/liver cancer and it brought up all kinds of pages! Here is a link to one of them! Good luck in your search!

liver cancer

just wanted to know how hard is it to get rid of liver cancer. need info soon

[Guest guest]

also google " cesium chloride cancer "

from my reading, it show high success sometimes on end-stage cancers.

raises pH radically, use with care. can be purchased in bulk...learn by

reading up. i've sen it on ebay. som " outside the box " docs may be willing

to use it & offer guidance & monitoring (the hard part is finding one

available to you).

i think it's important to DO something while you pray. oftentimes prayers

are answered with clues that must be worked with, not automatic miracles.

cheers,

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> New Here

> >

> >

> > My name is Darcy. My Brother has had Hep C for years. Just found out

> > in the past couple of months that he has liver cancer. Ann Arbor sent

> > him home and told him to call hospice....so he tried Cancer treatment

> > Centers of America...they after a few weeks said the same. He is now

> > doing some herbal stuff. I kinda didn't think it would be like

> > this...I thought his liver would be fine for some time, then if he

> > needed a new one ...I would surely give him part of mine....but this

> > changes the senario...He can't have Chemo. He can't have a

> > transplant...he is I believe 48 years old. A really nice guy.

> >

> > Anyway, I plan to read the achives here to see if I can find some

> > information that will be helpful in his situation. He hasn't given up

> > and is living his life. Using the powerful tool of prayer.

> >

> > Nice to meet you and thanks in advance for any good tips...

> >

> > Darcy :0)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >