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I sure many will recommend Budwig. See the file at and see

flaxseedoil2 group. Also, intravenous vitamin C might be worth trying.

See the file at group. I will be interested to see what

other recommendations will be made.

Best to you,

RB

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I would appreciate any feedback. The sister of a dear friend is dying of

liver cancer. She supposedly has six months to live. If anyone could

give me any information that could help her, thank you in advance. Ginni

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I think Dr Burt Berkson in Las Cruses uses a combination of alpha lipoic acid IV and LDN for liver cancer. His phone number is 575-524-3720. There is a lot of info about him on the internet, so you might want to look him up and see what you think. I have been to him for my Hep C and he prescribed LDN for my rheumatoid arthritis. My Hep C is doing fine--and I have had it for 43+ years. I know he works with Hep C patients who develop liver cancer.

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Thank you Susi for the information.From: Suzi Q <ancientkron@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:25:32 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re:Liver cancer

I think Dr Burt Berkson in Las Cruses uses a combination of alpha lipoic acid IV and LDN for liver cancer. His phone number is 575-524-3720. There is a lot of info about him on the internet, so you might want to look him up and see what you think. I have been to him for my Hep C and he prescribed LDN for my rheumatoid arthritis. My Hep C is doing fine--and I have had it for 43+ years. I know he works with Hep C patients who develop liver cancer.

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Beverly you mentioned your brother isn't into alternative treatments. The following was in my local hospital's newsletter. Perhaps he could look into this SIRT. Hopefully you can talk him into the addition of LDN & ALA. ............Barb

<<"A leader in the fight

against liver cancer".

Liver tumors are tough to treat. Often the aggressive

cancer is too large to operate on, and cancer drugs may be processed by the liver before they've had a chance to be effective.

But Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital's doctors have found a solution in a relatively new procedure called selective internal radiation therapy (SIRT). The hospital started using SIRT last year. Sebouh Gueyikian, M.D., an interventional radiologist and director of the hospital's interventional radiology department, says the treatment is currently the most promising tool in the battle against the disease.

How it works

SIRT is a nonsurgical procedure that delivers high doses of radiation—up to 40 times more than traditional radiation therapies—to tumors while sparing surrounding normal tissue from damage. The treatment is delivered through millions of tiny radioactive spheres, which are injected through a catheter directly into tumors via the artery of the liver. Inside the tumor, the spheres continuously deliver radiation to the cancer site for two weeks. Patients only stay in the hospital overnight.

While it is still too early for statistics, Jim Ruffer, M.D., medical director of the radiation oncology department, says the response so far has been wonderful. "It's been very well tolerated and can be used for patients who still have other treatment options as well as those who don't," he says.

SIRT requires a collaborative effort, says Mosebach, director of diagnostic imaging and outpatient oncology, which may be why only a very select number of hospitals are currently offering it. Doctors in the interventional radiology, oncology, radiation oncology and nuclear medicine departments all have to work together to treat each patient. "A lot of people may talk about personalized care, but we really do it here," he says.

To learn more about SIRT and other advanced cancer treatments available at Good Shepherd Hospital, call the HUGS Line at 847-842-HUGS (4847). A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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Dr. Berkson has had success in using it for HCC in conjunction with Alpha-Lipoic-Acid:

Pancreatic Cancer with Mets to Liver - Hepatitis C with Liver Cancer -3)

LDN for Cancer

Treating Cancer With Low Dose Naltrexone

Good luck,

Nola Hepper

In a message dated 5/3/2010 7:03:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, georgec2738@... writes:

Hi everyoneI am new to this. Please kindly let me know if LDN has any effect on treating liver cancer.Many thanks.

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Thanks Kees. I sent the information to my friend and asked her to join our

group. I met her quite by accident on Sunday and learned of her

diagnosis. She's a lovely person and I would like to see that she finds help

to

recover.

Best,

In a message dated 5/18/2010 4:59:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

redactie@... writes:

Dear watch this video english subtitled:

_http://www.kanker-actueel.nl/NL/video-english-13321.html_

(http://www.kanker-actueel.nl/NL/video-english-13321.html)

Wim Kloosterboer Survivor of Hepatitis-B-associated primary cancer of the

liver (Grade IV) metastasized to the lungs (HCC = Hepatocellular

carcinoma) with a treatment of dendritic celtherapy and hyperthermia.

Update video with new information 23th. of january 2010

And more people with livertumors are doing quite well with healthy

lifestyle and hyperthermia and Newcastle disease virus and immunetherapy

with dendritic cells.

Kees

> Has anyone dealt with liver cancer?

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Dear watch this video english subtitled:

http://www.kanker-actueel.nl/NL/video-english-13321.html

Wim Kloosterboer Survivor of Hepatitis-B-associated primary cancer of the

liver (Grade IV) metastasized to the lungs (HCC = Hepatocellular

carcinoma) with a treatment of dendritic celtherapy and hyperthermia.

Update video with new information 23th. of january 2010

And more people with livertumors are doing quite well with healthy

lifestyle and hyperthermia and Newcastle disease virus and immunetherapy

with dendritic cells.

Kees

> Has anyone dealt with liver cancer?

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Dear Gubi as far as I know they are still there:

http://mcc.cms.artex.nl/EN/successen.html

this is the latest published: melanoom

Documentation of Mrs. van Deelen

Suvivor of metastasized melanoom cancer (Grade IV).

http://mcc.cms.artex.nl/EN/vandeelen_EN.html

With kindly regards, Kees

> Kees, would you know by any chance, what happened with the video

> testimonials in Dr. Gorter's website?

>

> Gubi

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How much milk thistle is acceptable to take per day? I currently take 1,000

mg per day . Is this too much or too little? I have mets to liver.

Toni D.

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Toni D. It depends on whether the product you take is the plain herb or an

extract.

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, thanks for the reply. I take (1) 1000 mg Spring Valley Concentrated

Extract Milk Thistle each day. I have colon cancer w/mets to liver and

lungs; I had colon resection last Oct and I haven't had any problems with my

colon since, but my liver has been giving me problems for the last 6-8

weeks; right now its throbbing. I've been trying coffee enemas, which help

but I need more. I went to the health food store and one of the guys there

told me not to take milk thistle every day??? WTF?? So on top of being

confused on how to beat this cancer I'm confused as to what supplements are

best. I thought I was on the right track with the Budwig Protocol, but

's recent dialog regarding its effectiveness now has me a bit less

hopeful. I'm a widow with a 6 year old son and I just want to live damn

it.sorry, I'm frustrated. So many things I'd like to do but no funds to do

it with. So I'm eeking by the best I can.

I'm reading Anti Cancer currently and hope to glean some helpful info from

it. I also take Univase Forte (5 before each meal 3xday); Vit D3 ( 10,000

mg each day). I use a fir dome at night over my liver/lungs/colon. I've

been trying to stay free from stress and get some sunshine every day.

Any feedback would be helpful.

Thanks, Toni D

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Toni I visited the site and they have a 175 mg Milk thistle 80% Sylimarin.

Is this the prodcut you take and how many capsules you take a day?

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From: " Toni Duncan " <tonid2000@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:09 AM

< >

Subject: RE: [ ] liver cancer

> , thanks for the reply. I take (1) 1000 mg Spring Valley

> Concentrated

> Extract Milk Thistle each day. I have colon cancer w/mets to liver and

> lungs; I had colon resection last Oct and I haven't had any problems with

> my

> colon since, but my liver has been giving me problems for the last 6-8

> weeks; right now its throbbing. I've been trying coffee enemas, which

> help

> but I need more. I went to the health food store and one of the guys

> there

> told me not to take milk thistle every day??? WTF?? So on top of being

> confused on how to beat this cancer I'm confused as to what supplements

> are

> best. I thought I was on the right track with the Budwig Protocol, but

> 's recent dialog regarding its effectiveness now has me a bit less

> hopeful. I'm a widow with a 6 year old son and I just want to live damn

> it.sorry, I'm frustrated. So many things I'd like to do but no funds to

> do

> it with. So I'm eeking by the best I can.

>

>

>

> I'm reading Anti Cancer currently and hope to glean some helpful info from

> it. I also take Univase Forte (5 before each meal 3xday); Vit D3 ( 10,000

> mg each day). I use a fir dome at night over my liver/lungs/colon. I've

> been trying to stay free from stress and get some sunshine every day.

>

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>

> Any feedback would be helpful.

>

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> Thanks, Toni D

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Toni

I have reviewed my notes and the maximum I have ever suggested is 450 mg of

sillimaryn 80%. I see that there are studies using 1050 mg but I have no

further references. The German E commission (highly reliable source for

botanicals) does not report any any problem with milk thistle doses as high

as 450 mg. I assume no higher doses were studied.

It is known that it inhibits the function of the CYP3A4 liver enzyme so you

should not take any meds metabolized by such enzyme.

I know of no reason why you were told to skip days.

careful with coffee enemas; most people elevate the bag too much and

overreach; the sigmoid colon is the target and is reached with just 400 ml

or so and an elevation of no more than 60 cm (24 inches) over the body. It

is a lot better to do several small applications than one large one.

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From: " Toni Duncan " <tonid2000@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:09 AM

< >

Subject: RE: [ ] liver cancer

> , thanks for the reply. I take (1) 1000 mg Spring Valley

> Concentrated

> Extract Milk Thistle each day. I have colon cancer w/mets to liver and

> lungs; I had colon resection last Oct and I haven't had any problems with

> my

> colon since, but my liver has been giving me problems for the last 6-8

> weeks; right now its throbbing. I've been trying coffee enemas, which

> help

> but I need more. I went to the health food store and one of the guys

> there

> told me not to take milk thistle every day??? WTF?? So on top of being

> confused on how to beat this cancer I'm confused as to what supplements

> are

> best. I thought I was on the right track with the Budwig Protocol, but

> 's recent dialog regarding its effectiveness now has me a bit less

> hopeful. I'm a widow with a 6 year old son and I just want to live damn

> it.sorry, I'm frustrated. So many things I'd like to do but no funds to

> do

> it with. So I'm eeking by the best I can.

>

>

>

> I'm reading Anti Cancer currently and hope to glean some helpful info from

> it. I also take Univase Forte (5 before each meal 3xday); Vit D3 ( 10,000

> mg each day). I use a fir dome at night over my liver/lungs/colon. I've

> been trying to stay free from stress and get some sunshine every day.

>

>

>

> Any feedback would be helpful.

>

>

>

> Thanks, Toni D

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The back of the bottle says 1g (1,000 mg) Silybum marianum seed. The dosage

recommended is to take one softgel 2-4 times each day. I'm only taking one

softgel each day. Perhaps this is too much and that's why my liver is

throbbing. Are you a Dr.?

Thanks for your guidance.

Toni D

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:58 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] liver cancer

Toni I visited the site and they have a 175 mg Milk thistle 80% Sylimarin.

Is this the prodcut you take and how many capsules you take a day?

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From: " Toni Duncan " <tonid2000@... <mailto:tonid2000%40cfl.rr.com> >

Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:09 AM

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Subject: RE: [ ] liver cancer

> , thanks for the reply. I take (1) 1000 mg Spring Valley

> Concentrated

> Extract Milk Thistle each day. I have colon cancer w/mets to liver and

> lungs; I had colon resection last Oct and I haven't had any problems with

> my

> colon since, but my liver has been giving me problems for the last 6-8

> weeks; right now its throbbing. I've been trying coffee enemas, which

> help

> but I need more. I went to the health food store and one of the guys

> there

> told me not to take milk thistle every day??? WTF?? So on top of being

> confused on how to beat this cancer I'm confused as to what supplements

> are

> best. I thought I was on the right track with the Budwig Protocol, but

> 's recent dialog regarding its effectiveness now has me a bit less

> hopeful. I'm a widow with a 6 year old son and I just want to live damn

> it.sorry, I'm frustrated. So many things I'd like to do but no funds to

> do

> it with. So I'm eeking by the best I can.

>

>

>

> I'm reading Anti Cancer currently and hope to glean some helpful info from

> it. I also take Univase Forte (5 before each meal 3xday); Vit D3 ( 10,000

> mg each day). I use a fir dome at night over my liver/lungs/colon. I've

> been trying to stay free from stress and get some sunshine every day.

>

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> Any feedback would be helpful.

>

>

>

> Thanks, Toni D

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Toni, The common therapies for helping the liver use the standardized 80%

sylimarin product. The amount of this extract is up to you and your health

professional but as I told you common dosages are 300-400 mg of the

concentrated extract (80%).

Cheers

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From: " Toni Duncan " <tonid2000@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:11 AM

< >

Subject: RE: [ ] liver cancer

> The back of the bottle says 1g (1,000 mg) Silybum marianum seed. The

> dosage

> recommended is to take one softgel 2-4 times each day. I'm only taking

> one

> softgel each day. Perhaps this is too much and that's why my liver is

> throbbing. Are you a Dr.?

>

>

>

> Thanks for your guidance.

>

>

>

> Toni D

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of

> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:58 AM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] liver cancer

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>

> Toni I visited the site and they have a 175 mg Milk thistle 80% Sylimarin.

> Is this the prodcut you take and how many capsules you take a day?

>

>

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> From: " Toni Duncan " <tonid2000@... <mailto:tonid2000%40cfl.rr.com>

> >

> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:09 AM

> < <mailto: %40> >

> Subject: RE: [ ] liver cancer

>

>> , thanks for the reply. I take (1) 1000 mg Spring Valley

>> Concentrated

>> Extract Milk Thistle each day. I have colon cancer w/mets to liver and

>> lungs; I had colon resection last Oct and I haven't had any problems with

>> my

>> colon since, but my liver has been giving me problems for the last 6-8

>> weeks; right now its throbbing. I've been trying coffee enemas, which

>> help

>> but I need more. I went to the health food store and one of the guys

>> there

>> told me not to take milk thistle every day??? WTF?? So on top of being

>> confused on how to beat this cancer I'm confused as to what supplements

>> are

>> best. I thought I was on the right track with the Budwig Protocol, but

>> 's recent dialog regarding its effectiveness now has me a bit less

>> hopeful. I'm a widow with a 6 year old son and I just want to live damn

>> it.sorry, I'm frustrated. So many things I'd like to do but no funds to

>> do

>> it with. So I'm eeking by the best I can.

>>

>>

>>

>> I'm reading Anti Cancer currently and hope to glean some helpful info

>> from

>> it. I also take Univase Forte (5 before each meal 3xday); Vit D3 ( 10,000

>> mg each day). I use a fir dome at night over my liver/lungs/colon. I've

>> been trying to stay free from stress and get some sunshine every day.

>>

>>

>>

>> Any feedback would be helpful.

>>

>>

>>

>> Thanks, Toni D

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

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I can't speak as to how much milk thistle is acceptable I do take it daily. One

thing I thought perhaps you might add which is free this time of year is

dandelion which grows wild in most people's yard to your salad. Its very good

for your liver as well. I guess I am a official health nut now a few weeks ago a

guy knocked on my door from tru green a lawn poision company said He could get

rid of my weeds for 39.95 per month. I said get rid of them why in the world

would I want to do that I eat them. In addition I would never spray toxic

chemicals where my children and pets play. I got the (LOOK) all I can say as I

smiled as he drove away. All the best, MIke

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> How much milk thistle is acceptable to take per day? I currently take 1,000

> mg per day . Is this too much or too little? I have mets to liver.

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> Toni D.

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> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of Peggy Castillo

> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:53 AM

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> Subject: [ ] liver cancer

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Hi Carol - Should tumor growth be detected during or after your

husband's course of chemotherapy, then there is a promising

investigational treatment approach that he could try (this is FYI, not

medical advice).

It uses a very high dose of a natural, non-toxic agent, for which both

pre-clinical and preliminary clinical tests show dramatic tumor kill

within a one-week period. This is a curious hybrid of a scientific

approach, in pilot clinical testing at a major medical center, but one

that uses a very high dose of a non-toxic, natural agent.

Objectively, pancreatic cancer has a poor prognosis under any standard

treatment approach, but a patient who seeks leading-edge treatment

options can beat the odds. Should your husband's cancer reappear

during or after chemotherapy, then were he to consult with a world-class

oncologist, the advice would very likely be that the chances for

beneficial results with more chemotherapy would be limited, and that a

solid investigational treatment approach would be a good option.

More information is available at www.ufachallenge.org

<http://www.ufachallenge.org/> <http://www.ufachallenge.org

<http://www.ufachallenge.org/> > , user name " membrane " , password

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or contact me - davids@... <mailto:davids@...>

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> Tom: I'm was so glad I read your message. My husband had surgery for a

> malignant pancreatic tumor 2.5 cm 4/9. Fortunately all nodes and

margins

> were clear. He is 66 and in excellent health. Very active, does not

look

> his age. Drs couldn't believe how quickly he recovered from major

surgery.

> We received the usual " marketing strategy " re: chemo and radiation.

DRS

> BECOME EVASIVE AND DEFENSIVE IF YOU ASK TOO MANY EDUCATED QUESTIONS.

ONE

> ACTUALLY TOLD ME I READ TOO MUCH AND WILL BECOME CONFUSED. I COULDN'T

BE

> MORE CONFUSED ABOUT THE ALREADY PROVEN UNSUCCESSFUL BENEFITS OF

> CHEMO/RADIATION and the devastation I've witnessed with close friends

that

> have had these treatments to no avail.

>

> We all know chemo been used for 30 years (without success) and is

patented

> by Bristol Myers Squibb. Of course, it's a multi billion $$$ industry.

The

> BMS execs are on the board of Sloan Kettering. NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST

HERE

> (LEGALLY) AS THEY ARE DONATING THEIR TIME (ok??).

>

> Vitamin B17 is Laetrile. Cannot be patented so does not have the

potential

> for mega $$$'s. Apricot seed also will definitely NOT make the medical

> professionals rich either.

>

> My husband was only comfortable with the prescribed chemo and

radiation

> started 5/17. Needless to say, I have severe misgivings and

reservations

> (NOT TO MENTION SLEEPLESS NIGHTS). My pursuit of the alternates was

> stressing him out severely. So I'll support him all the way on the

> treatments he has chosen. Psychologically and physically he is doing

great.

> We (at MY INSISTENCE) are at least also going to a nutritionist/Chiro

who

> also has an MD on staff. Who took him off dairy proucts, red meat,

etc. .and

> put him on a regimen of anti oxidents milk thistle and vitamins. We're

> going to go thoroughly organic as well with chicken and vegetables. We

also

> have a vegetable drink made in a juicer with chickory, arugala,

watercress,

> spinach, etc. Very potent cancer fighter and high in nutrtion. IF YOU

CAN

> BELIEVE THIS, for 25 years I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF DIET, NUTRITION,

> VITAMINS, EXERCISE) EVEN USED A WATER FILTER. I cured my daughter's

chronic

> bladder infections when all doctors (toP urologist, top allergist top

> internist) all said nothing could be done: very common in females,

she'll

> outgrow it by the time she's 16 (she was 11 at the time) (she's now 37

w/3

> children and hasn't had a bladder infection since).

> SO I'M NOT A STRANGER TO ALTERNATE THERAPY.

>

> The wrenching part is that my husband was cancer-free after surgery.

Most

> of the time a pancreas tumor is silent and painless and is only

diagnosed

> after it has spread. There is a high recurrence rate to be sure even

for

> tumors that are totally resectable, but I feel the chemo and radiation

(as

> you say) will reduce his immune system and only increase his chances

of a

> recurrence. Also I'm in the very difficult position of trying to

research

> and recommend alternatives that may or may not arrest this devastating

> disease and (heaven forbid) do not have the blessings of the

professionals

> who " walk on water " but can't provide an effective cancer treatment.

> Carol Bilz

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> [ ] liver cancer

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> Can anyone help me???

> My mother had colo-rectal cancer in which she needed her colon

removed. The

> cancer then spread to her liver and is now in her lymph nodes and

liver. She

> has been through radiation and chemo-therapy. I tried to convince her

to try

> an alternate means of building up her immune system but she would only

do

> what her doctor prescribed. She is not doing well and her doctor says

she

> has 3 to 4 weeks to live.

> Is there anything I can do to help her?? Anything would be

appreciated.

> Dave

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even if you adopt new diets or whatever treatment...the budwig diet of cottage

cheese and flax oil or im using feash ground flax meal is good..2xs a day 2

tablespoons and a cup or more of cottage cheese.

dont put all your eggs in one basket...drink essaic tea.. raw vegies every day.

i eat a spinach salad with cucumber bell celery walnuts. I eat NO meat at all

salmon at least once a week broiled with lots of lemon juice..essaic every day 2

times a day..you have to cleanse your system of all toxins and there are many

ways ..garlic is good..fresh and lemon water ..main thing is be dilligent and

know you are making your body well by what you are not puttin in it..i buy raw

stevia.. No sugar and i dont eat much of it but freash green tea is good by

itself but i use a tiny bit of stevia

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