What are ideal levels of FSH and LH?

[Guest guest]

Hello guys,

What are ideal levels of FSH and LH? The upper or lower range of the scale?

When I first received my bloodwork, everything was confirmed to be allright by

my doctor.

An online doctor here in Norway also confirmed that my levels are good.

And the third doctor I visited to finally test for hemochromatosis, also said

that my levels were good.

So, I`m really confused if my levels really are low or what. And in particular,

I`m confused in terms of LH and FSH.

Basically, both my doctors told me that LH and FSH are female hormones and that

the ideal is to be low on the scale for these two.

By my own research, this does not seem to be quite correct, as LH is from what I

have read, a hormone that directly stimulates testosterone production.

The reference range for LH is 2-12, and I have 2.

The reference range for FSH is 1-12, and I have 2.

According to my doctors, my levels are ideal.

Is this correct?

I`m really confused if my testosterone levels are low or what they are. I`m also

waiting for the test results of possible hemochromatosis.

If I have hemochromatosis, perhaps the elevated iron levels really are to blame

for all my discomforts (low energy, reduced libido and erectile strength), and

my (low?) testosterone levels are not the source after all.

I`m also curious if reducing my iron levels will positively affect testosterone

production.

Thanks in advance,

ny

[Guest guest]

Your LH and FSH are low and if you have hemochromatosis this might be why fix

the high iron levels and see if your Testosterone levels don't come back up. If

they don't in about 4 months and your LH and FSH are still low with low

testosterone and the hemochromatosis is fixed and your Estradiol levels are good

at about 20 pg/ml then get an MRI on your Pituitary to rule out a tumor this is

rare to be cancer.

At Dr. M's forum there are a lot of posts about this problem with Iron and

Thyroid.

http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/index.php

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: johnnypilskog <johnnypilskog@...>

> Subject: What are ideal levels of FSH and LH?

>

> Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 9:23 AM

> Hello guys,

>

> What are ideal levels of FSH and LH? The upper or lower

> range of the scale?

>

> When I first received my bloodwork, everything was

> confirmed to be allright by my doctor.

>

> An online doctor here in Norway also confirmed that my

> levels are good.

>

> And the third doctor I visited to finally test for

> hemochromatosis, also said that my levels were good.

>

> So, I`m really confused if my levels really are low or

> what. And in particular, I`m confused in terms of LH and

> FSH.

>

> Basically, both my doctors told me that LH and FSH are

> female hormones and that the ideal is to be low on the scale

> for these two.

>

> By my own research, this does not seem to be quite correct,

> as LH is from what I have read, a hormone that directly

> stimulates testosterone production.

>

> The reference range for LH is 2-12, and I have 2.

>

> The reference range for FSH is 1-12, and I have 2.

>

> According to my doctors, my levels are ideal.

>

> Is this correct?

>

> I`m really confused if my testosterone levels are low or

> what they are. I`m also waiting for the test results of

> possible hemochromatosis.

>

> If I have hemochromatosis, perhaps the elevated iron levels

> really are to blame for all my discomforts (low energy,

> reduced libido and erectile strength), and my (low?)

> testosterone levels are not the source after all.

>

> I`m also curious if reducing my iron levels will positively

> affect testosterone production.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> ny

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

What are your total T and Free T levels? Also E2 levels?

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:23:34 -0000, you wrote:

>Hello guys,

>

>What are ideal levels of FSH and LH? The upper or lower range of the scale?

>

>When I first received my bloodwork, everything was confirmed to be allright by

my doctor.

>

>An online doctor here in Norway also confirmed that my levels are good.

>

>And the third doctor I visited to finally test for hemochromatosis, also said

that my levels were good.

>

>So, I`m really confused if my levels really are low or what. And in particular,

I`m confused in terms of LH and FSH.

>

>Basically, both my doctors told me that LH and FSH are female hormones and that

the ideal is to be low on the scale for these two.

>

>By my own research, this does not seem to be quite correct, as LH is from what

I have read, a hormone that directly stimulates testosterone production.

>

>The reference range for LH is 2-12, and I have 2.

>

>The reference range for FSH is 1-12, and I have 2.

>

>According to my doctors, my levels are ideal.

>

>Is this correct?

>

>I`m really confused if my testosterone levels are low or what they are. I`m

also waiting for the test results of possible hemochromatosis.

>

>If I have hemochromatosis, perhaps the elevated iron levels really are to blame

for all my discomforts (low energy, reduced libido and erectile strength), and

my (low?) testosterone levels are not the source after all.

>

>I`m also curious if reducing my iron levels will positively affect testosterone

production.

>

>Thanks in advance,

>

>ny

[Guest guest]

Hello retrogrouch,

 

These are the values from the test I took in March, as posted in an earlier

thread:

 

PS-CORTISOL 264

PS-OSTRADIOL <0,07  (0.04 - 0.18)

PS-FSH 2  (1 - 12)

PS-LH 2  (2 - 12)

PS-SHBG 36 (13 - 60)

PS-TESTOSTERON 14.9  (10.0 - 40.0)

Best regards,

 

ny

>Hello guys,

>

>What are ideal levels of FSH and LH? The upper or lower range of the scale?

>

>When I first received my bloodwork, everything was confirmed to be allright by

my doctor.

>

>An online doctor here in Norway also confirmed that my levels are good.

>

>And the third doctor I visited to finally test for hemochromatosis, also said

that my levels were good.

>

>So, I`m really confused if my levels really are low or what. And in particular,

I`m confused in terms of LH and FSH.

>

>Basically, both my doctors told me that LH and FSH are female hormones and that

the ideal is to be low on the scale for these two.

>

>By my own research, this does not seem to be quite correct, as LH is from what

I have read, a hormone that directly stimulates testosterone production.

>

>The reference range for LH is 2-12, and I have 2.

>

>The reference range for FSH is 1-12, and I have 2.

>

>According to my doctors, my levels are ideal.

>

>Is this correct?

>

>I`m really confused if my testosterone levels are low or what they are. I`m

also waiting for the test results of possible hemochromatosis.

>

>If I have hemochromatosis, perhaps the elevated iron levels really are to blame

for all my discomforts (low energy, reduced libido and erectile strength), and

my (low?) testosterone levels are not the source after all.

>

>I`m also curious if reducing my iron levels will positively affect testosterone

production.

>

>Thanks in advance,

>

>ny

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:07:37 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>Hello retrogrouch,

> 

>These are the values from the test I took in March, as posted in an earlier

thread:

> 

>PS-CORTISOL 264

>PS-OSTRADIOL <0,07  (0.04 - 0.18)

>PS-FSH 2  (1 - 12)

>PS-LH 2  (2 - 12)

>PS-SHBG 36 (13 - 60)

>PS-TESTOSTERON 14.9  (10.0 - 40.0)

>

>Best regards,

> 

>ny

The reason I asked is if your T levels were up, low LH or FSH would

not matter. Ordinarily they increase to tell the testicle to make more

T. It seems in your case they've slowed down and your levels are low

and you are not making enough T for that reason, which is to say you

are secondary.

You should read this for an understanding:

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

[Guest guest]

Retrogrouch,

 

Thanks for that link. I will read it tomorrow.

 

How low is my levels in your opinion? Low enough to qualify for TRT in the US?

 

I might be interested in taking a new test now, because I`m confident that my

levels are higher than when I took the test, even though probably still on the

low side.

Curious to see how the test of hemochromatosis turns out, and if curing it if I

do have it, may positively effect my testosterone levels.

 

Best regards,

 

ny

>Hello retrogrouch,

> 

>These are the values from the test I took in March, as posted in an earlier

thread:

> 

>PS-CORTISOL 264

>PS-OSTRADIOL <0,07  (0.04 - 0.18)

>PS-FSH 2  (1 - 12)

>PS-LH 2  (2 - 12)

>PS-SHBG 36 (13 - 60)

>PS-TESTOSTERON 14.9  (10.0 - 40.0)

>

>Best regards,

> 

>ny

The reason I asked is if your T levels were up, low LH or FSH would

not matter. Ordinarily they increase to tell the testicle to make more

T. It seems in your case they've slowed down and your levels are low

and you are not making enough T for that reason, which is to say you

are secondary.

You should read this for an understanding:

http://www.aace. com/pub/pdf/ guidelines/ hypogonadism. pdf

[Guest guest]

You don't have the units to your test measures. I'm assumbng the total

T is in n/mol. In the US we measure by ng/dl. My estimate of that

conversion with your numbers is a 428 ng/dl. That's a bit below

median but not very low. Testosterone levels can flucutate by 100s of

points in an hour. Median is around 650. It may be you bounce up and

down around there.

Was this an early AM test? Natural levels are highest from 4 am to 8

am.

Your levels are not low enough for T treatment in the US.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:51:55 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>Retrogrouch,

> 

>Thanks for that link. I will read it tomorrow.

> 

>How low is my levels in your opinion? Low enough to qualify for TRT in the US?

> 

>I might be interested in taking a new test now, because I`m confident that my

levels are higher than when I took the test, even though probably still on the

low side.

>

>Curious to see how the test of hemochromatosis turns out, and if curing it if I

do have it, may positively effect my testosterone levels.

> 

>Best regards,

> 

>ny

>

>

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>>Hello retrogrouch,

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>>These are the values from the test I took in March, as posted in an earlier

thread:

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>>PS-CORTISOL 264

>>PS-OSTRADIOL <0,07  (0.04 - 0.18)

>>PS-FSH 2  (1 - 12)

>>PS-LH 2  (2 - 12)

>>PS-SHBG 36 (13 - 60)

>>PS-TESTOSTERON 14.9  (10.0 - 40.0)

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>>Best regards,

>> 

>>ny

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>The reason I asked is if your T levels were up, low LH or FSH would

>not matter. Ordinarily they increase to tell the testicle to make more

>T. It seems in your case they've slowed down and your levels are low

>and you are not making enough T for that reason, which is to say you

>are secondary.

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>You should read this for an understanding:

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>http://www.aace. com/pub/pdf/ guidelines/ hypogonadism. pdf

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[Guest guest]

I'm not a expert on hemochromatosis, but it is my understanding that if you have

hypogonadism due to hemochromatosis, it is not reversible. Lowering iron levels

will prevent future organ damage, but does not undo the damage that has been

done.

bjesplin

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> Curious to see how the test of hemochromatosis turns out, and if curing it if

I do have it, may positively effect my testosterone levels.

>  

> Best regards,

>  

> ny

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[Guest guest]

bjesplin,

 

That`s what I heard as well and it sucks.

 

But I`m thinking that this might apply to severe organ damage with far higher

levels than mine are right now.

 

I am able to achieve a 100% erection, it just takes a lot more effort than it

should and ideally zero alcohol.

 

I hope this can be reversible.

 

Regards,

 

ny

From: esplinbj <no_reply >

Subject: Re: What are ideal levels of FSH and LH?

Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:54 AM

I'm not a expert on hemochromatosis, but it is my understanding that if you have

hypogonadism due to hemochromatosis, it is not reversible. Lowering iron levels

will prevent future organ damage, but does not undo the damage that has been

done.

bjesplin

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> Curious to see how the test of hemochromatosis turns out, and if curing it if

I do have it, may positively effect my testosterone levels.

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> Best regards,

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> ny

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[Guest guest]

Thanks retrogrouch,

 

Actually, that is a relief to hear, because my personal trainer made me more

worried than I needed to be when he said that I would qualify for treatment in

the US. How low would I need to be for that to happen?

 

Actually, I`m feeling much more potent now than when I took the first test, so I

suppose that testosterone is higher now. Yes, I seem to remember that the test

was around 12 AM.

 

LH and FSH has been tested later and it was still low. Have not tested T though.

 

Kind regards,

 

ny

 

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>>Hello retrogrouch,

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>>These are the values from the test I took in March, as posted in an earlier

thread:

>> 

>>PS-CORTISOL 264

>>PS-OSTRADIOL <0,07  (0.04 - 0.18)

>>PS-FSH 2  (1 - 12)

>>PS-LH 2  (2 - 12)

>>PS-SHBG 36 (13 - 60)

>>PS-TESTOSTERON 14.9  (10.0 - 40.0)

>>

>>Best regards,

>> 

>>ny

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>The reason I asked is if your T levels were up, low LH or FSH would

>not matter. Ordinarily they increase to tell the testicle to make more

>T. It seems in your case they've slowed down and your levels are low

>and you are not making enough T for that reason, which is to say you

>are secondary.

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>You should read this for an understanding:

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>http://www.aace. com/pub/pdf/ guidelines/ hypogonadism. pdf

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I would doubt that you have any organ damage at the ferritin level you have. I

have read that it is more in the 800-1000+ level that organ damage occurs. I

just wouldn't want to let it get that high. You are lucky you have found out

about this as early as you did. In a few more years it could certainly be high

enough to do damage.

Good luck,

bjesplin

> I'm not a expert on hemochromatosis, but it is my understanding that if you

have hypogonadism due to hemochromatosis, it is not reversible. Lowering iron

levels will prevent future organ damage, but does not undo the damage that has

been done.

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