Re: repeated blood work (quest diagnostics)

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:43:57 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:

>had blood work done May 21, 2009 and repeated June 30, 2009. I am 59 and take

androgel 7.5g/day and NOTHING else.

>

>the testosterone results are remarkably similar; The E2 results= remarkably

disimilar imo.

>

>Total test = 866, 910

>Bioavailable = 414.9, 416.5

>Free test = 201.8, 198

>SHBG=19, 21

>Albumin = 4.8, 4.6

>

>Ultrasensitive E2 95, 23

>

>can E2 vary this much in 5 weeks? I know Quest is/was having problems with the

E2 assay. My test numbers look high to me given my androgel dose; I guess SHBG

IS LOW????

>

>any thoughts/comments-- all welcome

Was it sensitive assay? Most labs run a test for women who's E2 levels

are in the 100s. They are not very senstive or accurate below 100.

[Guest guest]

yes

estradiol, ultrasensitive LC/MS/MS (reference range < or =29 pg/ml) in both

cases

Re: repeated blood work (quest diagnostics)

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:43:57 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:

>had blood work done May 21, 2009 and repeated June 30, 2009. I am 59 and take

androgel 7.5g/day and NOTHING else.

>

>the testosterone results are remarkably similar; The E2 results= remarkably

disimilar imo.

>

>Total test = 866, 910

>Bioavailable = 414.9, 416.5

>Free test = 201.8, 198

>SHBG=19, 21

>Albumin = 4.8, 4.6

>

>Ultrasensitive E2 95, 23

>

>can E2 vary this much in 5 weeks? I know Quest is/was having problems with the

E2 assay. My test numbers look high to me given my androgel dose; I guess SHBG

IS LOW????

>

>any thoughts/comments-- all welcome

Was it sensitive assay? Most labs run a test for women who's E2 levels

are in the 100s. They are not very senstive or accurate below 100.

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[Guest guest]

The first thing I need to know is did you put on the gel before you did the

blood test. Doing this you can get very high levels in the first 4 hrs and if

you got the gel on the spot where they take the blood it will spike you levels

way up. Most men only get about 500 to 600 on this dose and a chart I have that

I can't find shows how high levels go in the 24 hrs one has it on.

It is best to get up take a good shower first thing in the morning then with out

putting on the gel go get your blood done.

This way it will show your Dr. how low you go on the gel it's when your on the

low side you feel bad or on a roller coaster ride. Yes Estradiol can change

daily. If you do your Estradio don't do the new Ultra test it does not work

right and I can't for the life of me understand why they keep billing men for

this test most of the time it's saying <2 and when a Dr. calls them they say

they are having problems with the dam test. This has been going on for to dam

long. I don't do this test anymore I went back to the old on it works fine

Quest #4021 the range on this test is 13 to 54 if you go less then 13 it gives

you the number I have been as low as 10 pg/ml on this test.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Kipp Kruse <kckruse@...>

> Subject: repeated blood work (quest diagnostics)

>

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 12:43 PM

> had blood work done May 21, 2009 and

> repeated June 30, 2009.  I am 59 and take androgel

> 7.5g/day and NOTHING else.

>

> the testosterone results are remarkably similar;  The

> E2 results= remarkably disimilar imo.

>

> Total test =  866,   910

> Bioavailable = 414.9, 416.5

> Free test = 201.8, 198

> SHBG=19, 21

> Albumin = 4.8, 4.6

>

> Ultrasensitive E2 95, 23

>

> can E2 vary this much in 5 weeks?  I know Quest is/was

> having problems with the E2 assay.  My test numbers

> look high to me given my androgel dose; I guess SHBG IS

> LOW????

>

> any thoughts/comments-- all welcome

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

The new Ultrasensitive E2 test at Quest has a range of <29 it's # is 30289X this

test does not work right Dr. was pushing this lab test for Estradiol said

it's the best test to do but it does not work right he will not say this but to

many men are getting a result of <2 range <29. This is not possable so when I

did my next set of labs I did both the Ultra. test range <29 came back at <10 my

old test #4021 range 13 to 54 pg/ml on the same blood draw come back at 36 to

high. My Dr. called Quest and they told him they are having problems with the

ultra test. I called my BCBS and told them not to pay for this test.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >had blood work done May 21, 2009 and repeated June 30,

> 2009.  I am 59 and take androgel 7.5g/day and NOTHING

> else.

> >

> >the testosterone results are remarkably similar; 

> The E2 results= remarkably disimilar imo.

> >

> >Total test =  866,   910

> >Bioavailable = 414.9, 416.5

> >Free test = 201.8, 198

> >SHBG=19, 21

> >Albumin = 4.8, 4.6

> >

> >Ultrasensitive E2 95, 23

> >

> >can E2 vary this much in 5 weeks?  I know Quest

> is/was having problems with the E2 assay.  My test

> numbers look high to me given my androgel dose; I guess SHBG

> IS LOW????

> >

> >any thoughts/comments-- all welcome

>

>

> Was it sensitive assay? Most labs run a test for women

> who's E2 levels

> are in the 100s. They are not very senstive or accurate

> below 100.

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

repeated blood work (quest diagnostics)

>

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 12:43 PM

> had blood work done May 21, 2009 and

> repeated June 30, 2009.  I am 59 and take androgel

> 7.5g/day and NOTHING else.

>

> the testosterone results are remarkably similar;  The

> E2 results= remarkably disimilar imo.

>

> Total test =  866,   910

> Bioavailable = 414.9, 416.5

> Free test = 201.8, 198

> SHBG=19, 21

> Albumin = 4.8, 4.6

>

> Ultrasensitive E2 95, 23

>

> can E2 vary this much in 5 weeks?  I know Quest is/was

> having problems with the E2 assay.  My test numbers

> look high to me given my androgel dose; I guess SHBG IS

> LOW????

>

> any thoughts/comments-- all welcome

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

OK let me go one more step if you did the labs 18 hrs later and did not shower

off the gel you can spike up the labs test if some of the gel was at the site

the blood was taken. I just don't see high levels like this on this much gel.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Kipp Kruse <kckruse@...>

> > Subject: repeated blood work (quest

> diagnostics)

> >

> > Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 12:43 PM

> > had blood work done May 21, 2009 and

> > repeated June 30, 2009.  I am 59 and take androgel

> > 7.5g/day and NOTHING else.

> >

> > the testosterone results are remarkably similar; 

> The

> > E2 results= remarkably disimilar imo.

> >

> > Total test =  866,   910

> > Bioavailable = 414.9, 416.5

> > Free test = 201.8, 198

> > SHBG=19, 21

> > Albumin = 4.8, 4.6

> >

> > Ultrasensitive E2 95, 23

> >

> > can E2 vary this much in 5 weeks?  I know Quest

> is/was

> > having problems with the E2 assay.  My test numbers

> > look high to me given my androgel dose; I guess SHBG

> IS

> > LOW????

> >

> > any thoughts/comments-- all welcome

> >

> >

> > 

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >