Re: Help! I need advice. Low testosterone w/ lab results for reference

July 23, 2009

Go try the Arimidex your Estradiol was on the high side you will get some

morning wood back so strong it will wake you up. later is this stops stop the

arimidex until the wood comes back that day go back on it but cut the pills into

1/4 parts and go back on them but do .25 mgs every other day if your wood stops

again then just stop the arimidex again until wood comes back then go on every 3

days keep doing this until you find the dose. Going to low will kill your penis

even a pill will not get it up.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: bsprulesall <bsprulesall@...>

> Subject: Re: Help! I need advice. Low testosterone w/ lab

results for reference

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 9:40 PM

> I forgot to mention, here are my new

> labs

>

> Total Test: 417 (250-1100 ng/dl)

> Free%: 3 (1.50-2.20%)

> Free Test: 125.1 (35.0-1.55 pg/ml)

> LH:3.8 (1.5-9.3 miu/ml)

> Prolactin:11.2 (2.0-18.0 ng/ml)

>

> The labs were the best one's I've done but I think it's

> because it was in the morning. I drew the blood around

> 9:30 or so. Still the Testosterone level is sort of

> borderline. The Uro gave me a prescription for the

> Amiridex. My estradiol level from a previous test

> 41. I understand Estradiol is estrogen. I am

> pretty skinny but I do carry fat on my legs/thigs.

>

> > > > >

> > > > > >Here's an update regarding my

> situation

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I had the MRI on my Pituitary on

> Monday. I got a telephone call today with the results. It

> turns out that my Pituitary is normal, they found nothing

> wrong with it. The Dr's assistant told me over the telephone

> because my T levels low-normal the Endo wants to hold off on

> Testosterone Replacement and wants me to get another Blood

> Test in 3 months. I like this course of action because if I

> was offered it anyway I wanted to take time to see if

> Lifestyle changes could have some kind of impact because

> offer the past few months I have been very stressed and have

> barely gotten any sleep, went to sleep at different times

> because of this. I have been majorly depressed over it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >So I don't know what I'm going to

> do now that I got my results; there is nothing wrong with my

> pituitary, yet my T Level's are still low. I have an

> appointment next week with a Urologist for a different issue

> and will probably bring this to his attention, see what he

> has to say about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have they run a cortisol test? With

> high stress it climbs and can

> > > > > cause low T. But if you're cortisol

> levels are normal and T is not up,

> > > > > I'd get started on T sooner than later.

> At least for me the loss of

> > > > > energy, ambition and mental fog were

> too much to live with and keep a

> > > > > job, etc.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

July 23, 2009

Well, here's my question...is Arimidex safe? Like can I just stop taking it

whenever I want? Also if the problem were to be the fat because of the

Estradiol, which was 41 (This was still along the " normal " range on the chart but

I had no idea for men this number was high) wouldn't exercise naturally bring it

down? I've always been relatively skinny but carried weight below my waist,

even when I was a child I was like this.

> From: bsprulesall <bsprulesall>

> Subject: Re: Help! I need advice. Low testosterone w/ lab

results for reference

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 9:40 PM

> I forgot to mention, here are my new

> labs

>

> Total Test: 417 (250-1100 ng/dl)

> Free%: 3 (1.50-2.20%)

> Free Test: 125.1 (35.0-1.55 pg/ml)

> LH:3.8 (1.5-9.3 miu/ml)

> Prolactin:11. 2 (2.0-18.0 ng/ml)

>

> The labs were the best one's I've done but I think it's

> because it was in the morning. I drew the blood around

> 9:30 or so. Still the Testosterone level is sort of

> borderline. The Uro gave me a prescription for the

> Amiridex. My estradiol level from a previous test

> 41. I understand Estradiol is estrogen. I am

> pretty skinny but I do carry fat on my legs/thigs.

>

> > > > >

> > > > > >Here's an update regarding my

> situation

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I had the MRI on my Pituitary on

> Monday. I got a telephone call today with the results. It

> turns out that my Pituitary is normal, they found nothing

> wrong with it. The Dr's assistant told me over the telephone

> because my T levels low-normal the Endo wants to hold off on

> Testosterone Replacement and wants me to get another Blood

> Test in 3 months. I like this course of action because if I

> was offered it anyway I wanted to take time to see if

> Lifestyle changes could have some kind of impact because

> offer the past few months I have been very stressed and have

> barely gotten any sleep, went to sleep at different times

> because of this. I have been majorly depressed over it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >So I don't know what I'm going to

> do now that I got my results; there is nothing wrong with my

> pituitary, yet my T Level's are still low. I have an

> appointment next week with a Urologist for a different issue

> and will probably bring this to his attention, see what he

> has to say about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have they run a cortisol test? With

> high stress it climbs and can

> > > > > cause low T. But if you're cortisol

> levels are normal and T is not up,

> > > > > I'd get started on T sooner than later.

> At least for me the loss of

> > > > > energy, ambition and mental fog were

> too much to live with and keep a

> > > > > job, etc.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

July 23, 2009

It's safe and your estradiol levels are high for a man this just happens to some

men they make a lot of it. You can stop anytime I myself would give it a try

but not taking 1mg I would do .5 a half a pill every 3 days see how your wood

works on this. Here is a link about Testosterone and Arimidex a study.

http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm

In this link it talks about testing and levels saying men on TRT should have

there Testosterone levels up into the upper 1/3 of there labs range for a young

man and to keep there Estradiol between 10 to 30 pg/mL best at 20.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: bsprulesall <bsprulesall>

>

> > Subject: Re: Help! I need advice. Low

> testosterone w/ lab results for reference

>

> >

>

> > Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 9:40 PM

>

> > I forgot to mention, here are my new

>

> > labs

>

> >

>

> > Total Test: 417 (250-1100 ng/dl)

>

> > Free%: 3 (1.50-2.20%)

>

> > Free Test: 125.1 (35.0-1.55 pg/ml)

>

> > LH:3.8 (1.5-9.3 miu/ml)

>

> > Prolactin:11. 2 (2.0-18.0 ng/ml)

>

> >

>

> > The labs were the best one's I've done but I think

> it's

>

> > because it was in the morning. I drew the blood

> around

>

> > 9:30 or so. Still the Testosterone level is sort of

>

> > borderline. The Uro gave me a prescription for the

>

> > Amiridex. My estradiol level from a previous test

>

> > 41. I understand Estradiol is estrogen. I am

>

> > pretty skinny but I do carry fat on my legs/thigs.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >Here's an update regarding my

>

> > situation

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >I had the MRI on my Pituitary

> on

>

> > Monday. I got a telephone call today with the results.

> It

>

> > turns out that my Pituitary is normal, they found

> nothing

>

> > wrong with it. The Dr's assistant told me over the

> telephone

>

> > because my T levels low-normal the Endo wants to hold

> off on

>

> > Testosterone Replacement and wants me to get another

> Blood

>

> > Test in 3 months. I like this course of action because

> if I

>

> > was offered it anyway I wanted to take time to see if

>

> > Lifestyle changes could have some kind of impact

> because

>

> > offer the past few months I have been very stressed

> and have

>

> > barely gotten any sleep, went to sleep at different

> times

>

> > because of this. I have been majorly depressed over

> it.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >So I don't know what I'm going

> to

>

> > do now that I got my results; there is nothing wrong

> with my

>

> > pituitary, yet my T Level's are still low. I have an

>

> > appointment next week with a Urologist for a different

> issue

>

> > and will probably bring this to his attention, see

> what he

>

> > has to say about it.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Have they run a cortisol test?

> With

>

> > high stress it climbs and can

>

> > > > > > cause low T. But if you're

> cortisol

>

> > levels are normal and T is not up,

>

> > > > > > I'd get started on T sooner than

> later.

>

> > At least for me the loss of

>

> > > > > > energy, ambition and mental fog

> were

>

> > too much to live with and keep a

>

> > > > > > job, etc.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

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July 23, 2009

I just read a post by a guy that fixed his low T with Arimidex here is a link

it's at Dr. s forum.

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3849

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >Here's an update regarding my

> >

> > > situation

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >I had the MRI on my Pituitary

> > on

> >

> > > Monday. I got a telephone call today with the results.

> > It

> >

> > > turns out that my Pituitary is normal, they found

> > nothing

> >

> > > wrong with it. The Dr's assistant told me over the

> > telephone

> >

> > > because my T levels low-normal the Endo wants to hold

> > off on

> >

> > > Testosterone Replacement and wants me to get another

> > Blood

> >

> > > Test in 3 months. I like this course of action because

> > if I

> >

> > > was offered it anyway I wanted to take time to see if

> >

> > > Lifestyle changes could have some kind of impact

> > because

> >

> > > offer the past few months I have been very stressed

> > and have

> >

> > > barely gotten any sleep, went to sleep at different

> > times

> >

> > > because of this. I have been majorly depressed over

> > it.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >So I don't know what I'm going

> > to

> >

> > > do now that I got my results; there is nothing wrong

> > with my

> >

> > > pituitary, yet my T Level's are still low. I have an

> >

> > > appointment next week with a Urologist for a different

> > issue

> >

> > > and will probably bring this to his attention, see

> > what he

> >

> > > has to say about it.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Have they run a cortisol test?

> > With

> >

> > > high stress it climbs and can

> >

> > > > > > > cause low T. But if you're

> > cortisol

> >

> > > levels are normal and T is not up,

> >

> > > > > > > I'd get started on T sooner than

> > later.

> >

> > > At least for me the loss of

> >

> > > > > > > energy, ambition and mental fog

> > were

> >

> > > too much to live with and keep a

> >

> > > > > > > job, etc.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

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July 24, 2009

It is interesting that your doc knows of this. Most don't. You can get

as much as a 200 to 300 point boost in total T by bringing E2 down

with arimidex. E2 reduces FSH production and other triggers for T

production.

is right on - 1 mg a day is a lot and will have you too low in

no time. That brings a total loss of libido total ED and huge mood and

mental fog issues. Get a pill cutter from your pharmacy and cut them

in 1/4s. One 1/4 every other day or every third day is usually

enough. You don't want to go below 20.

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:40:16 -0000, you wrote:

>I forgot to mention, here are my new labs

>

>Total Test: 417 (250-1100 ng/dl)

>Free%: 3 (1.50-2.20%)

>Free Test: 125.1 (35.0-1.55 pg/ml)

>LH:3.8 (1.5-9.3 miu/ml)

>Prolactin:11.2 (2.0-18.0 ng/ml)

>

>The labs were the best one's I've done but I think it's because it was in the

morning. I drew the blood around 9:30 or so. Still the Testosterone level is

sort of borderline. The Uro gave me a prescription for the Amiridex. My

estradiol level from a previous test 41. I understand Estradiol is estrogen. I

am pretty skinny but I do carry fat on my legs/thigs.

>

>> > > >

>> > > > >Here's an update regarding my situation

>> > > > >

>> > > > >I had the MRI on my Pituitary on Monday. I got a telephone call today

with the results. It turns out that my Pituitary is normal, they found nothing

wrong with it. The Dr's assistant told me over the telephone because my T levels

low-normal the Endo wants to hold off on Testosterone Replacement and wants me

to get another Blood Test in 3 months. I like this course of action because if I

was offered it anyway I wanted to take time to see if Lifestyle changes could

have some kind of impact because offer the past few months I have been very

stressed and have barely gotten any sleep, went to sleep at different times

because of this. I have been majorly depressed over it.

>> > > > >

>> > > > >So I don't know what I'm going to do now that I got my results; there

is nothing wrong with my pituitary, yet my T Level's are still low. I have an

appointment next week with a Urologist for a different issue and will probably

bring this to his attention, see what he has to say about it.

>> > > >

>> > > > Have they run a cortisol test? With high stress it climbs and can

>> > > > cause low T. But if you're cortisol levels are normal and T is not up,

>> > > > I'd get started on T sooner than later. At least for me the loss of

>> > > > energy, ambition and mental fog were too much to live with and keep a

>> > > > job, etc.

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

July 25, 2009

Thanks Phil you are a life saver and everyone else who has commented and given

advice. I am in your debt.

I have been studying the articles you guys have given me and I am convinced that

since I don't have a tumor or anything and am a young man some hormone must be

out of whack and it's effecting everything else. Now my estradiol is on the

high side and maybe that could be the reason because this hasn't been a problem

that happened over night. It was gradual and it started happening after I began

putting on weight (I was using a lot of protein powders for working out and

those things were full of extra calories).

> >> > > >

> >> > > > >Here's an update regarding my situation

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >I had the MRI on my Pituitary on Monday. I got a telephone call

today with the results. It turns out that my Pituitary is normal, they found

nothing wrong with it. The Dr's assistant told me over the telephone because my

T levels low-normal the Endo wants to hold off on Testosterone Replacement and

wants me to get another Blood Test in 3 months. I like this course of action

because if I was offered it anyway I wanted to take time to see if Lifestyle

changes could have some kind of impact because offer the past few months I have

been very stressed and have barely gotten any sleep, went to sleep at different

times because of this. I have been majorly depressed over it.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >So I don't know what I'm going to do now that I got my results;

there is nothing wrong with my pituitary, yet my T Level's are still low. I have

an appointment next week with a Urologist for a different issue and will

probably bring this to his attention, see what he has to say about it.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Have they run a cortisol test? With high stress it climbs and can

> >> > > > cause low T. But if you're cortisol levels are normal and T is not

up,

> >> > > > I'd get started on T sooner than later. At least for me the loss of

> >> > > > energy, ambition and mental fog were too much to live with and keep a

> >> > > > job, etc.

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

July 25, 2009

another thing i meant to ask you phil (and everyone else) since you are

knowledgable in this field and about doctors who are good at it, do you

reccomend I maybe try to get in touch with this Dr. Crisler person? I've seen

him mentioned here a few times going through some of the posts. I can't exactly

keep flying over there because michigan is far away from but I heard he can go

through your general practitioner.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > >Here's an update regarding my situation

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > >I had the MRI on my Pituitary on Monday. I got a telephone call