Re: Low Testosterone/Hashimoto's and muscles pain

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I don't know , how much time moderator will take to publish my post so others

can start

reply. I didn't get a single reply and heard lot about this forum but no

response not sure what

is ghoing on.

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Kavi, welcome to the group.

Sorry you haven't gotten a reply yet. There are a number of guys here

who have low testosterone from a number of causes, including low

thyroid activity, improper pituitary signaling (including excess

prolactin), genetic/chromosomal abnormalities, & any number of other

problems.

In any event, there is some good info here if you don't mind searching

through some of the old messages. A quick search of Bromocriptine &

Dostinex in this group comes up with a few messages from men using

these drugs for purposes ranging from " anti-aging " , optimal

functionality to prolactin suppression (see message #45525).

I don't have any personal experience with Bromocriptine but there are

men here who have greater familiarity (see message #45384).

Roundbadger posted a similar scenario & question regarding his

prolactinoma that eventually required surgery (see message #45511).

For him, reducing prolactin did not result in elevating testosterone,

so he started Androgel. Not sure if he found a dose that worked for

him or if he switched to a different mode of testosterone replacement

therapy. You might likewise need testosterone replacement therapy

despite lowering your prolactin.

Since your LH & FSH are low (though still within reference ranges),

you might profit from using hCG (human Chorionic Gonadotropin), which

can raise testosterone while maintaining sperm production. Some men

here use testosterone alone, hCG alone, or both, as hCG alone doesn't

tend to elevate testosterone as much as using both methods.

Testosterone might help with muscle weakness & bone pain. Don't know

if it helps relieve muscle pain specifically, but in general it can

give a sense of well-being & increase pain tolerance.

I didn't understand your question about prostate cancer. Are you

asking if testosterone causes it or if one can use it if one has been

recently diagnosed with it? I doubt many doctors would administer

testosterone to patients with prostate cancer (as most currently

believe testosterone both contributes to its development &

progression), but *many* articles have been written demonstrating that

doctors' beliefs are mistaken regarding this issue. The reality is

that the risk of promoting prostate cancer by testosterone

replacement/supplementation has been exaggerated. Men with low

testosterone have a greater likelihood of lots of problems, including

type 2 diabetes & fracturing their spines & hips from osteoperosis.

Hope others with experiences similar to yours chime in.

~Xian

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> I just join this forum with lot of hopes to get an answer of my

> > quries. I have heard lot about this group and people here really good

> > in helping each other.

> >

> > History:

> > Male , age 37

> > Diagnosed Hypothyroidism due to positive TPO in 2006 , since then

> > taking levoxyl. My symptoms were/are lack of energy /muscles aches and

> > pain and joint pain/bone cracking and headaches.

> >

> > In 2008 Nov , i changed another endo as i every keep saying my thyroid

> > is normal, she asked me to check all hormones which include

> > testosterone level, cortisol level .

> >

> > It came back

> >

> > Total Testosterone 245 (range 241-827)

> > Free Testosterone 59 (52-99)

> > FSH 3.5 (3.0-12)

> > LH 1.7 (1.4-9.0)

> >

> > Prolactin 24 (3-18)

> > Cortisol was also normal above just not sure numbers.

> >

> > She sent me for MRI to make sure it is not prolactinoma , MRI came

> > back 6mm pituitary adenoma. She put me on Bromocriptine and said once

> > my prolactin normal my testosterone level would increase to normal

> >

> > My TSH was 1.27 (0.6-3.5)

> > MY Ft4 was 1.37 (0.6-1.8)

> > FT3 3.2 (2.6-4.2)

> >

> > I started taking bromocriptine 2.5mg /day at night with meal and

> > continue taking levoxyl 88mcg /day in the morning.

> >

> > Recent visit to Neurosurgeon:

> >

> > He thinks with this low prolactin it is not very sure i have tumor

> > although it shows but he stills wants to check prolactin level couple

> > of times and correct testosterone level before do anything , as i have

> > headaches/fatigue even more after started bromocriptine ,he wanted me

> > to switch to Dostinex .

> >

> > Recent lab result came back.

> >

> > FT4 -1.27

> > TSH 1.17

> >

> > Total testosterone 216 (241-827)

> > FSH 4.4 (3.0-12)

> > LH 2.4 (1.4-9.0)

> >

> > Prolactin 0.2 (3-18)

> >

> > Waiting for Free testosterone level.

> >

> > So based on neuro surgeon conversation , if my prolactin went down

> > then it is not prolactinoma and need to investigate why testosterone

> > is low . according to him it will take some time after prolactin is

> > normal for testosterone to go up .

> >

> > My questions:

> >

> > Does those symptoms of muscles /joint pain and muscles weakness is can

> > be because of my low testosterone level ?.

> >

> > Can it be advisable to have testosterone therapy at this point ?.

> >

> > Is therapy can effect on prostate cancer developement even is it is

> low ?

> >

> > Is therapy can also shut off fertility mean sperm production ?

> >

> > Any natural way to treat this ?

> >

> > Can my hypothyroidism can be rsponsible for low testosterone level ?S

> > Should i ask my endo to increase my Free T3/t4 to high normal range to

> > feel better specially with muscles issue ?

> >

> > Any stories and experience some one can share will help reduce my

> > stress level which is really tremendous.

>