My testolevels are at the bottom range - What now?

[Guest guest]

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Fe levels of anything over 50 is unacceptable. The range, similar to the bogus

range for testosterone, is based on a average sum that is not anywhere near

scientific. As with E2 levels people need to get in better touch with their

bodies and listen to them. When ankles swell and joints crack and and sweating

seems compounded then high Fe is more than likely at play.

Also, I am willing to bet many people in here suffer from hemochromatosis and do

not know it. As for gland and organ damage, my pituitary from regular mri scans

shows a perfect healthy pituitary. However the iron can mess with anterior lobe

signaling and not show up as a lesion or scar or growth or tumor.

What you " think " is setting a poor example for the rest of the people in here.

What you know is all that matters when based on empirical data. You really need

to go get a T2 Star mri which will show if organs are storing iron. Dr. Wood

from LA Children's hospital has expanded to pituitary scanning and is the go to

for this test.

Glands due to the soft fleshy tissue will load before organs. I keep my Fe

right on the edge of anemic, as instructed, which is 15-20 for me and may differ

from person to person.

I have not had a pseudo gout attack in over two years until I didn't give blood

for 5 months as an experiment to see if the TRT was affecting hepcidin levels in

the liver. I think TRT has positively affected the hepcidin levels because I

would get pseudo gout attacks every 3 months

Take a look at the non bio available iron. See and all this time you thought

you were a stud because your balls dragged on the ground when it was just the

FDA poisoning you via enrichment and fortification programs. BTW the guy in the

video Levi is a cardiologist. It would be an interesting study to see the

commonality between hormone issues, atril fibrillation and hemochromatosis.

Lastly, I am going to get my pit scanned in LA since Dr. Woods made the invite,

but I want to see if they can scan adrenals as well, same kind of

tissue.........I will update with my findings soonest.

Tom U

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> > I`m listing ferritine though, as this was above the normal range. The

doctor did not comment it though.

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> > > >The normal range is on the right side of the *.

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> > > >LAB RESULTS:

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> > > >PS-FERRITIN 337 * 20-250

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> > > >The high ferritin levels are a real concern. They can push

> > > testosterone down. And if levels are high enough long enough they do

> > > damage to the pituitary and make the condition permanent.

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[Guest guest]

On Mon, 04 May 2009 11:54:50 -0000, you wrote:

>What you " think " is setting a poor example for the rest of the people in here.

SO you continue to tell me. I try to distinguish what I know and

what I believe and be accurate. Here what I told him are facts.

[Guest guest]

> > > I would certainly look into the high ferritin.

> > > You should have an iron panal done which includes total iron, %saturation

etc. As has been said, high iron can damage your heart, pancreas, liver,

testicles and so forth. I think your ferritin level would have to be a lot

higher for this to happen, but you have a high level at your age, and it will

only go up.

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> > > I was found to have high iron a few years ago. I don't think I have any

organ damage, but I work to keep my iron level down. The method of lowering

iron is to give blood. If I don't give 4-6 times a year my levels go up.

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[Guest guest]

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> Thanks for sharing.

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> I will most definitely look into the high ferritin levels.

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> As I see it, that would be good news, if giving blood could fix my problems:)

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> Thanks!

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> Elijah

Giving blood will lower iron levels but it won't reverse any damage that has

already been done. I would help prevent further damage.

[Guest guest]

So, will not lower iron levels potentially raise my testosterone levels?

I recently received an answer from my an online doctor here in Norway, mostly

because I have some issues with my regular doctor and I don`t completely trust

his abilities.

He told me the following:

- My testosterone levels are normal.

- High ferritin levels does not necessarily mean that I have high iron levels in

my body.

- High ferritin levels could mean many things. I should therefore take a new

test now and see if it is still elevated. If it is, my doctor needs to take some

more advanced tests to see if it is hemachromotosis.

- Ferritin levels does not affect testosterone.

- I should not consider adrenal fatigue, as that is a speculative diagnosis with

no root in scientifically based medical school.

I will now call my doctor and ask for another test.

Best regards,

Elijah

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> > Thanks for sharing.

> >

> > I will most definitely look into the high ferritin levels.

> >

> > As I see it, that would be good news, if giving blood could fix my

problems:)

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Elijah

>

> Giving blood will lower iron levels but it won't reverse any damage that has

already been done. I would help prevent further damage.

>

[Guest guest]

From the treatment guidelines:

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Iron overload may lead to primary gonadal failure or

sometimes hypothalamic-pituitary dysfunction that results

in secondary gonadal failure (22). The diagnosis is made

in the setting of associated findings of hemochromatosis in

conjunction with an increased ferritin level and is generally

confirmed with a liver or bone marrow biopsy.

Siemons LJ, Mahler CH. Hypogonadotropic hypogonadism

in hemochromatosis: recovery of reproductive

function after iron depletion. J Clin Endocrinol Metab.

1987;65:585-587.

If the high iron is of recent development you may improve after

getting it down. but long term high iron does damage to the pituitary

that is irreversible.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:32:51 -0000, you wrote:

>So, will not lower iron levels potentially raise my testosterone levels?

>

>I recently received an answer from my an online doctor here in Norway, mostly

because I have some issues with my regular doctor and I don`t completely trust

his abilities.

>

>He told me the following:

>

>- My testosterone levels are normal.

>- High ferritin levels does not necessarily mean that I have high iron levels

in my body.

>- High ferritin levels could mean many things. I should therefore take a new

test now and see if it is still elevated. If it is, my doctor needs to take some

more advanced tests to see if it is hemachromotosis.

>- Ferritin levels does not affect testosterone.

>- I should not consider adrenal fatigue, as that is a speculative diagnosis

with no root in scientifically based medical school.

>

>I will now call my doctor and ask for another test.

>

>Best regards,

>

>Elijah

>

>

>

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>> > Thanks for sharing.

>> >

>> > I will most definitely look into the high ferritin levels.

>> >

>> > As I see it, that would be good news, if giving blood could fix my

problems:)

>> >

>> > Thanks!

>> >

>> > Elijah

>>

>> Giving blood will lower iron levels but it won't reverse any damage that has

already been done. I would help prevent further damage.

>>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing brother.

That is very interesting.

I`m surprised that the online doctor seemed to be so certain that there were no

correlation.

Best regards,

Elijah

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> >> > Thanks for sharing.

> >> >

> >> > I will most definitely look into the high ferritin levels.

> >> >

> >> > As I see it, that would be good news, if giving blood could fix my

problems:)

> >> >

> >> > Thanks!

> >> >

> >> > Elijah

> >>

> >> Giving blood will lower iron levels but it won't reverse any damage that

has already been done. I would help prevent further damage.

> >>

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