Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 You can get the best of both worlds- adequate T and fuller testicular size- if you use both hCG and testosterone simultaneously. Otherwise, doing testosterone and then a testosterone-production stimulator risks losing the ability for your testicles to produce their own T in response to Clomid, Tamoxifen, Arimidex, Letrozole, or hCG; you could potentially develop primary hypogonadism. Otherwise, the only side effects I know of regarding Clomid are similar to menopausal symptoms, including hot flashes (since Clomid selectively competes with estrogen in the hypothalamus). ~Xian > > Tough Androgel did get my T-Levels up to >5, I've decided that I didn't want to " shut down my testies " at this point in my life. I still might want to raise kids, and don't want my testies to shrink. > > Thus, my endocrinologist put me on 50mg of Clomiphene Citrate. > > If you can kindly provide feedback Clomid, including side effects, that would be great. I believe this product is primarilly used for women and fertility. > > Greatly appreciated! > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 > > > > Tough Androgel did get my T-Levels up to >5, I've decided that I didn't want to " shut down my testies " at this point in my life. I still might want to raise kids, and don't want my testies to shrink. > > > > Thus, my endocrinologist put me on 50mg of Clomiphene Citrate. > > > > If you can kindly provide feedback Clomid, including side effects, that would be great. I believe this product is primarilly used for women and fertility. > > > > Greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks > > > If you endo is using 50 mgs clomid long term he is an idiot because it can cause eye issues big time. clomid is short term use 8-10 weeks and then if that fails your can use HCG instead. I run a clomid challege for 7 days to see if you are primary or secondary. If you are less then 30 then we try a restart if older we use hcg 500 ius every 3 rd day then retest in 2 weeks Testoterone and E2 then adjust accordingly. Before any TRT is intiated the adrenals and thyroid are properly checked to see if there are any imbalances in these which could be affecting hormone function. I also look at lifestyle, nutrition, current stress, and sleep patterns to identify where the cause is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Great post as all ways one more thing about clomid is ones eyes some men a lot of them get floaters in there eyes that don't go away if you don't stop it soon enough. Co-Moderator Phil > From: d00fu524 <calvin1564@...> > Subject: Re: 40 Year old with Low T taking 50MG of Clomid > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 9:17 PM > You can get the best of both worlds- > adequate T and fuller testicular size- if you use both hCG > and testosterone simultaneously. Otherwise, doing > testosterone and then a testosterone-production stimulator > risks losing the ability for your testicles to produce their > own T in response to Clomid, Tamoxifen, Arimidex, Letrozole, > or hCG; you could potentially develop primary > hypogonadism. > > Otherwise, the only side effects I know of regarding Clomid > are similar to menopausal symptoms, including hot flashes > (since Clomid selectively competes with estrogen in the > hypothalamus). > > ~Xian > > > > > > Tough Androgel did get my T-Levels up to >5, I've > decided that I didn't want to " shut down my testies " at this > point in my life. I still might want to raise kids, and > don't want my testies to shrink. > > > > Thus, my endocrinologist put me on 50mg of Clomiphene > Citrate. > > > > If you can kindly provide feedback Clomid, including > side effects, that would be great. I believe this > product is primarilly used for women and fertility. > > > > Greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 There is one guy here that treats there low Testosterone with Clomid but that's it most find the sides are very bad. Even Dr. says men should not us it for TRT. If you want to have kids later test your sperm and if it's good freeze it. Most men with low T can't have kids you need to test this before doing TRT for to long. Dr. has men that are on TRT that made a baby and did not want more. We are all different to stop TRT and shorten your life not even knowing if your sperm is good is nuts. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ganggreen54 <ganggreen54@...> > Subject: 40 Year old with Low T taking 50MG of Clomid > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:56 PM > Tough Androgel did get my T-Levels up > to >5, I've decided that I didn't want to " shut down my > testies " at this point in my life. I still might want to > raise kids, and don't want my testies to shrink. > > Thus, my endocrinologist put me on 50mg of Clomiphene > Citrate. > > If you can kindly provide feedback Clomid, including side > effects, that would be great. I believe this product > is primarilly used for women and fertility. > > Greatly appreciated! > > Thanks > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Thanks Phil, I understand, yet what concerns me about having a baby, is the shrinkage of my gonads over time. I am in my 40's and would like to have a female friend/companion/ and perhaps a wife. I began dating with the increased libido, and I would hate for the girl to be turned off by shrinking testies. I'm keeping aware of any such side effects, and will re-evaluate after 3 months. If not, something I just need to live with and practice better diet, atlernative means, ala Maca. > > > From: ganggreen54 <ganggreen54@...> > > Subject: 40 Year old with Low T taking 50MG of Clomid > > > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:56 PM > > Tough Androgel did get my T-Levels up > > to >5, I've decided that I didn't want to " shut down my > > testies " at this point in my life. I still might want to > > raise kids, and don't want my testies to shrink. > > > > Thus, my endocrinologist put me on 50mg of Clomiphene > > Citrate. > > > > If you can kindly provide feedback Clomid, including side > > effects, that would be great. I believe this product > > is primarilly used for women and fertility. > > > > Greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Gee all you need to do to keep your testis working is to add in some HCG to the mix on gels do 250 IU shots every 3 days this keep them working as best they can and no bad sides. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ganggreen54 <ganggreen54@...> > Subject: Re: 40 Year old with Low T taking 50MG of Clomid > > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:25 PM > Thanks Phil, > > I understand, yet what concerns me about having a baby, is > the shrinkage of my gonads over time. I am in my > 40's and would like to have a female friend/companion/ and > perhaps a wife. I began dating with the increased > libido, and I would hate for the girl to be turned off by > shrinking testies. > > I'm keeping aware of any such side effects, and will > re-evaluate after 3 months. If not, something I just > need to live with and practice better diet, atlernative > means, ala Maca. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ganggreen54 <ganggreen54@...> > > > Subject: 40 Year old with Low > T taking 50MG of Clomid > > > > > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:56 PM > > > Tough Androgel did get my T-Levels up > > > to >5, I've decided that I didn't want to > " shut down my > > > testies " at this point in my life. I still might > want to > > > raise kids, and don't want my testies to shrink. > > > > > > Thus, my endocrinologist put me on 50mg of > Clomiphene > > > Citrate. > > > > > > If you can kindly provide feedback Clomid, > including side > > > effects, that would be great. I believe this > product > > > is primarilly used for women and fertility. > > > > > > Greatly appreciated! > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 > I understand, yet what concerns me about having a baby, is the > shrinkage of my gonads over time. I am in my 40's and would like to > have a female friend/companion/ and perhaps a wife. I began dating > with the increased libido, and I would hate for the girl to be turned > off by shrinking testies. Hi, I can tell you that I was between marriages when I started TRT (though my libido was still stronger than my ex wife's) and the boost in libido MORE than made up for some slight shrinkage of the boys :-} before picking my new wife I was " dating " 4 women at a time ;-} and keeping ALL VERY HAPPY doing 125mg/week of test-e. do a little hcg (I do 250iu on days 5 & 6 (with shot on day 7...I know it's one of these things on if there's 7 or 8 days when you count a week) to keep them in reasonable shape and nobody will complain. as far as having kids... well I'm 53, wife is a young sexy 50.... so that wasn't a consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thanks for your feedback, I'm considering all options! > > > > I understand, yet what concerns me about having a baby, is the > > shrinkage of my gonads over time. I am in my 40's and would like to > have a female friend/companion/ and perhaps a wife. I began dating > > with the increased libido, and I would hate for the girl to be turned > off by shrinking testies. > > Hi, > > I can tell you that I was between marriages when I started TRT (though my libido was still stronger than my ex wife's) and the boost in libido MORE than made up for some slight shrinkage of the boys :-} > > before picking my new wife I was " dating " 4 women at a time ;-} and keeping ALL VERY HAPPY doing 125mg/week of test-e. > > do a little hcg (I do 250iu on days 5 & 6 (with shot on day 7...I know it's one of these things on if there's 7 or 8 days when you count a week) to keep them in reasonable shape and nobody will complain. > > as far as having kids... well I'm 53, wife is a young sexy 50.... so that wasn't a consideration. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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