Re: Re: ultra sound proof - A very important question

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At 07:55 PM 21-04-03 +0000, suzanne_on_ca@... stated:

>Wally,

>

>Carefully read Dale's post again..

>http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73 & i=144

>

>You will see thathe had an Mri in Feb '99 that showed a stone and he

>later had an ultra sound in October '99 which found no stones.

The question was whether anyone had an ultrasound that showed GB stones,

then did a flush, and then had an ultrasound that showed no stones.

An MRI is not an ultrasound.

The answer to the question thus seems to be that there have not yet been

any ultrasounds that show the desired " before " and " after " results.

One hopes that there will be such results in the future.

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How about getting information regarding the before and after shots of the

gallbladder and liver from the source himself??? Since, I did have a before and

after.

An MRI showed that my gallbladder was diseased and thickened, my emergency room

doctor, who became my regular doctor, stated it needed to be taken out within

the next two weeks, and that it probably hasn't been working for the last ten

years. Since my wife was with me for all the doctor visits, because of her

concern, she can attest to all that was said by the doctor.

I have a very strong belief in the flushes capacity to get stones out but I also

did more than what it often even spoken about on this group. I also used a

zapper, had colonics and enemas with ozone insufflations, did castor oil packs,

took Gold Coin Grass and avoided fats.

The problem I ran into avoiding fats was that I didn't know about the body's

need for essential fatty acids, so, I even avoided taking in these very badly

needed types of fats. This caused some liver damage but as of today I seem to be

doing quite well. It took a couple of years to get to where I am today in being

able to eat foods you would avoid during the time of the crisis but I still have

to be careful about what I do eat and how much of it I eat.

The funniest part about all this was what my doctor stated to me when I asked

him what he thought of my having done the gallbladder and liver flush to get the

stones out and get my gallbladder working again. He simply stated " You can't

argue with success " .

Dale

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From: khawakaqaiser@...

gallstones

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 1:03 AM

Subject: Re: Re: ultra sound proof - A very important question

Suzanne

I have gone through your link. It states that by

avoiding fats, the ultrasound showed no stone. It

does not indicate that by flushing, the stone

disappeared. So, my question remains still valid to

all participants on this board. I believe all of them

are victims of gb stones, they why they hestitate to

discuss or answer on this subject. It is to their

benefit that they express their experience of before

and after ultrasound scan, which should prove that

flushing removed their stones.

--- Suzanne <suzanne_on_ca@...> wrote:

> Wally,

>

> Carefully read Dale's post again..

> http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73 & i=144

>

> You will see thathe had an Mri in Feb '99 that

> showed a stone and he

> later had an ultra sound in October '99 which found

> no stones.

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[Guest guest]

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:34:58 +0300, Wally Gordon <wally.gordon@...>

wrote:

> The answer to the question thus seems to be that there have not yet been

> any ultrasounds that show the desired " before " and " after " results.

>

> One hopes that there will be such results in the future.

I wonder if it matters and I wonder why you keep coyly asking as though it

matters.

I went through 8 months of excruciating sickness some years back. The doc

ordered an ultrasound that showed numerous stones and thickening of the

gallbladder wall.

He, in one town, sent me to two separate I-was-trained-to-cut-and-cut-is-

what-I-do surgeons in other towns who both urged immediate surgery " so as

to possibly save your life. "

Attack after attack drove me to an emergency room table one night where I

wanted the one butcher to start cutting right then and there. I was

astonished when he said I could wait until later in the week during his

regular operating room shift.

I crawled off that table and went home where there was a message waiting

from a man in Connecticut who guided me through a liver/gallbladder flush.

Several weeks---and flushes---later I felt like a new man.

I have never had an attack since that night in the ER all those years ago.

Quite frankly, I don't give a twit whether an " after " ultrasound would have

shown 1000 stones or none. I have not been sick with that God-awful

sickness again and I'm not going anywhere near those " doctors " or their

high-tech tomfoolery. Let 'em find another sucker for their fund-raising

efforts.

BTW, the perfect digestion I now enjoy is more valuable to me than

uncountable ultrasounds.

So please count me in among those who failed to give you a direct answer to

your direct question.

Regards,

Rex Harrill