How does weight loss affect doseage?

[Guest guest]

I started T replacement about 1 1/2 year ago. My doctor is aggressive and we

like to keep my T number up around 900-1000. When I started I weighed 248 lbs of

pure blubber. After getting my mojo back, I have been hitting the gym 6 days a

week with a trainer. I know that I have put on at least 10-15 lbs of muscle. I

am down to 220 lbs and 22% body fat.

At first I was doing about 1.75 ml of 200 ml/mg Test Cyprionate once per week to

get to my levels. After a while my total T numbers inched up to 1400 range. We

lowered the dosage to 1.5 ml and the numbers went up to over 1600. My doctor has

again lowered my doseage to 1.0 ml. We will be doing testing in 5 weeks to see

how this works out.

My doctor explained to me that Testosterone is a fat soluable hormone and that

as I get leaner I need to lower my doseage.

I also take .03 IU HCG 3 times per week.and Ldex 2 times per week.

Has anyone experienced this where you have to change your dosage downward as you

get leaner?

Esteban

[Guest guest]

Wow that is nuts 325 mgs a week this is like doing Steroids for weight lifting.

I can't say why your levels went up unless you were not doing labs the same time

and day. I do my labs the day of my next shot but before it. And I stop HCG

about 5 days before doing labs or it will Spike up your levels. When you say

your doing .03 IU's of HCG I use Novarel when mixed it is 10 mls or 10,000 IU's

I do a .4 ml shot or 400 IU's please tell me what kind of HCG your using and how

much you have in the vile when mixed.

The more you work out the more of the Testosterone your taking can get burned up

faster. I am 65 just getting over Heart by pass sugary and work out 3x's a week

and fast walk the days I am not working out.

I need a lot of T I burn it up as fast as I take it but I do about what is = to

200 mgs a week. I do a shot 80 mgs every 3 days and I do 400 IU's of HCG the 2

days in between my T shots. Doing your doing a lower dose at a time this helps

keep Estradiol E2 levels down if your not testing this do so if your high it

takes away any good the testosterone is doing.

And as levels get to high you can get some ED and lose your libido.

I take .25mgs or 1/4 of a one mg. pill every 2 to 3 days of Arimidex to keep my

E2 levels in check. A good level is about 20 pg/ml.

At one time I topped out at 325 lbs do to low levels of Testosterone and the

Fatigue and sore joints and muscles I had from the low levels.

Today I am 240 lbs age is 65 and I feel great it took me 23 yrs to figure out

why I am low on testosterone you can read my story at this link.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

I don't feel getting lean helps one to get by on less Testosterone but it helps

keep E2 levels down.

My Total T labs doing the above are at 890 top of the range is 1100. My E2

levels are between 17 to 20 pg/ml and I could have sex everyday if my wife was

up to it. Dam thing is women as they age think they are to old for sex.

When you do your labs make sure you test the morning of your next shot but

before it and don't do HCG 5 days before this it will Spike up your labs for

both E2 and Testosterone.

I do my shots at 5am I am retired and still wake up at this time so I do my

shots and then go back to bed when I get up at 8am I feel great. I use a small

27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle to do both T and HCG shots into my thigh. The oil

comes out of the vile slow so I just pull the plunger all the way down and hold

it takes about a min or two to get my dose. Doing this works great and no pain

been doing this over 5 yrs. now.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: runningbear27609 <steve@...>

> Subject: How does weight loss affect doseage?

>

> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 10:53 AM

> I started T replacement about 1 

> 1/2 year ago. My doctor is aggressive and we like to keep my

> T number up around 900-1000. When I started I weighed 248

> lbs of pure blubber. After getting my mojo back, I have been

> hitting the gym 6 days a week with a trainer. I know that I

> have put on at least 10-15 lbs of muscle. I am down to 220

> lbs and 22% body fat.

>

> At first I was doing about 1.75 ml of 200 ml/mg Test

> Cyprionate once per week to get to my levels. After a while

> my total T numbers inched up to 1400 range. We lowered the

> dosage to 1.5 ml and the numbers went up to over 1600. My

> doctor has again lowered my doseage to 1.0 ml. We will be

> doing testing in 5 weeks to see how this works out.

>

> My doctor explained to me that Testosterone is a fat

> soluable hormone and that as I get leaner I need to lower my

> doseage.

>

> I also take .03 IU HCG 3 times per week.and Ldex 2 times

> per week.

>

> Has anyone experienced this where you have to change your

> dosage downward as you get leaner?

>

> Esteban

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I've never been on T, but the dose of Arimidex I need to stay around 20 has

definitely gone down as I've lost fat and built muscle. Well, it stands to

reason - less fat tissue means less aromatase produced, so less aromatase

inhibitor needed. That's one of the reasons you need to keep testing regularly

to make sure you don't take E2 too low.

But the E2 effect wouldn't be relevant for you because your T levels are

determined by the T and HCG. It will be interesting to see if others have had

your experience, or have heard your doctor's explanation elsewhere.

>

> I started T replacement about 1 1/2 year ago. My doctor is aggressive and we

like to keep my T number up around 900-1000. When I started I weighed 248 lbs of

pure blubber. After getting my mojo back, I have been hitting the gym 6 days a

week with a trainer. I know that I have put on at least 10-15 lbs of muscle. I

am down to 220 lbs and 22% body fat.

>

> At first I was doing about 1.75 ml of 200 ml/mg Test Cyprionate once per week

to get to my levels. After a while my total T numbers inched up to 1400 range.

We lowered the dosage to 1.5 ml and the numbers went up to over 1600. My doctor

has again lowered my doseage to 1.0 ml. We will be doing testing in 5 weeks to

see how this works out.

>

> My doctor explained to me that Testosterone is a fat soluable hormone and that

as I get leaner I need to lower my doseage.

>

> I also take .03 IU HCG 3 times per week.and Ldex 2 times per week.

>

> Has anyone experienced this where you have to change your dosage downward as

you get leaner?

>

> Esteban

>

[Guest guest]

As ones weight loss goes down the amount of aromatase will as well so one will

have to adjust dosages accordingly. Simple by adding 50 mgs of zinc picolate

before bed may be all that may be needed in order to control zinc. If your e2

is high one may also want to look into proper thyroid labs as when thyroid is

low our ability to get rid of e2 can be greatly reduced as well. In many

patients correcting thyroid and manipulating TRT has corrected their e2.

Melatonin also has a huge impact on zinc metabolism as well as thyroid.

Correcting thyroid at optimal level has shown to increase zinc metabolism which

can offset excessive e2 levels they may be experiencing.

> >

> > I started T replacement about 1 1/2 year ago. My doctor is aggressive and

we like to keep my T number up around 900-1000. When I started I weighed 248 lbs

of pure blubber. After getting my mojo back, I have been hitting the gym 6 days

a week with a trainer. I know that I have put on at least 10-15 lbs of muscle. I

am down to 220 lbs and 22% body fat.

> >

> > At first I was doing about 1.75 ml of 200 ml/mg Test Cyprionate once per

week to get to my levels. After a while my total T numbers inched up to 1400

range. We lowered the dosage to 1.5 ml and the numbers went up to over 1600. My

doctor has again lowered my doseage to 1.0 ml. We will be doing testing in 5

weeks to see how this works out.

> >

> > My doctor explained to me that Testosterone is a fat soluable hormone and

that as I get leaner I need to lower my doseage.

> >

> > I also take .03 IU HCG 3 times per week.and Ldex 2 times per week.

> >

> > Has anyone experienced this where you have to change your dosage downward as

you get leaner?

> >

> > Esteban

> >

>

[Guest guest]

HANS, I have seen you mention Zinc Picolate a few times. My doctor has me on

Zinc Citrate. Does Picolate absorb better?

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From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:53:26 AM

Subject: Re: How does weight loss affect doseage?

 

As ones weight loss goes down the amount of aromatase will as well so one will

have to adjust dosages accordingly. Simple by adding 50 mgs of zinc picolate

before bed may be all that may be needed in order to control zinc. If your e2 is

high one may also want to look into proper thyroid labs as when thyroid is low

our ability to get rid of e2 can be greatly reduced as well. In many patients

correcting thyroid and manipulating TRT has corrected their e2. Melatonin also

has a huge impact on zinc metabolism as well as thyroid. Correcting thyroid at

optimal level has shown to increase zinc metabolism which can offset excessive

e2 levels they may be experiencing.

> >

> > I started T replacement about 1 1/2 year ago. My doctor is aggressive and we

like to keep my T number up around 900-1000. When I started I weighed 248 lbs of

pure blubber. After getting my mojo back, I have been hitting the gym 6 days a

week with a trainer. I know that I have put on at least 10-15 lbs of muscle. I

am down to 220 lbs and 22% body fat.

> >

> > At first I was doing about 1.75 ml of 200 ml/mg Test Cyprionate once per

week to get to my levels. After a while my total T numbers inched up to 1400

range. We lowered the dosage to 1.5 ml and the numbers went up to over 1600. My

doctor has again lowered my doseage to 1.0 ml. We will be doing testing in 5

weeks to see how this works out.

> >

> > My doctor explained to me that Testosterone is a fat soluable hormone and

that as I get leaner I need to lower my doseage.

> >

> > I also take .03 IU HCG 3 times per week.and Ldex 2 times per week.

> >

> > Has anyone experienced this where you have to change your dosage downward as

you get leaner?

> >

> > Esteban

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have used all forms and only form that works for me and all other men on here

is zinc picolate. Zinc citrate is about 20% absorbed to elemental. 160 = about

30-40 mgs of elemental.

> > >

> > > I started T replacement about 1 1/2 year ago. My doctor is aggressive and

we like to keep my T number up around 900-1000. When I started I weighed 248 lbs

of pure blubber. After getting my mojo back, I have been hitting the gym 6 days

a week with a trainer. I know that I have put on at least 10-15 lbs of muscle. I

am down to 220 lbs and 22% body fat.

> > >

> > > At first I was doing about 1.75 ml of 200 ml/mg Test Cyprionate once per

week to get to my levels. After a while my total T numbers inched up to 1400

range. We lowered the dosage to 1.5 ml and the numbers went up to over 1600. My

doctor has again lowered my doseage to 1.0 ml. We will be doing testing in 5

weeks to see how this works out.

> > >

> > > My doctor explained to me that Testosterone is a fat soluable hormone and

that as I get leaner I need to lower my doseage.

> > >

> > > I also take .03 IU HCG 3 times per week.and Ldex 2 times per week.

> > >

> > > Has anyone experienced this where you have to change your dosage downward

as you get leaner?

> > >

> > > Esteban

> > >

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