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Is he eating/drinking lots of animal products with all their (cow, etc)

hormones?

S S

gynecomastia

Posted by: " sunflower_luvbooks " sunflower0904@... sunflower_luvbooks

Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:42 pm (PDT)

Hello,

My 7 yo son is showing breast buds. Does anyone know why and what do I need to

do?

We finished round 20 at 19mg of ALA and 19mg of DMPS.

Thanks,

Sunny

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My son who is pretty much dairy free and has been for years..has this but on

just one side....was told that it was one of the side effects of mercury...not

sure if that is true...but also that it was quite benign.

Ronni

>

> Is he eating/drinking lots of animal products with all their (cow, etc)

hormones?

> S S

>

> gynecomastia

> Posted by: " sunflower_luvbooks " sunflower0904@... sunflower_luvbooks

> Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:42 pm (PDT)

>

>

>

> Hello,

> My 7 yo son is showing breast buds. Does anyone know why and what do I need to

do?

> We finished round 20 at 19mg of ALA and 19mg of DMPS.

>

> Thanks,

> Sunny

>

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Two other possibilities:

1. dental sealants

2. Risperdal or Risperidone

- Hokkanen

Re: gynecomastia

Posted by: " ronnimike " HISSPECIALTOUCH@... ronnimike

Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:28 am (PDT)

My son who is pretty much dairy free and has been for years..has this but on

just one side....was told that it was one of the side effects of mercury...not

sure if that is true...but also that it was quite benign.

Ronni

>

>

> Is he eating/drinking lots of animal products with all their (cow, etc)

hormones?

> S S

>

>

> gynecomastia

> Posted by: " sunflower_luvbooks " sunflower0904@... sunflower_luvbooks

> Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:42 pm (PDT)

>

>

> Hello,

> My 7 yo son is showing breast buds.

> Does anyone know why and what do I need to do?

> We finished round 20 at 19mg of ALA and 19mg of DMPS.

>

> Thanks,

> Sunny

>

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BPA in plastics and canned food lining are known to do this too. The dental

sealants mentioned also contains BPA.

Here's a good PDF regarding unsafe plastics.

http://www.healthobservatory.org/library.cfm?refid=77083

A lot of plastic food wraps contain BPA also. The best thing to make sure

that something is BPA-free is to call the manufacturer.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Hokkanen <nhokkanen@...>wrote:

> Two other possibilities:

> 1. dental sealants

> 2. Risperdal or Risperidone

>

> - Hokkanen

>

>

> Re: gynecomastia

> Posted by: " ronnimike " HISSPECIALTOUCH@... ronnimike

> Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:28 am (PDT)

> My son who is pretty much dairy free and has been for years..has this but

> on just one side....was told that it was one of the side effects of

> mercury...not sure if that is true...but also that it was quite benign.

> Ronni

> >

> >

> > Is he eating/drinking lots of animal products with all their (cow, etc)

> hormones?

> > S S

> >

> >

> > gynecomastia

> > Posted by: " sunflower_luvbooks " sunflower0904@... sunflower_luvbooks

> > Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:42 pm (PDT)

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > My 7 yo son is showing breast buds.

> > Does anyone know why and what do I need to do?

> > We finished round 20 at 19mg of ALA and 19mg of DMPS.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sunny

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> >

> >

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There are estrogen mimicking subtances in a lot of things these days.

They use growth hormones in meat, diary. Soy also contains estrogens. Also the

BPA's as mentioned, are an endocrine disruptor. I wonder if a bioidentical

hormone doctor might be able to do some testing on his levels of hormones and

help correct this.

>

> > Two other possibilities:

> > 1. dental sealants

> > 2. Risperdal or Risperidone

> >

> > - Hokkanen

> >

> >

> > Re: gynecomastia

> > Posted by: " ronnimike " HISSPECIALTOUCH@... ronnimike

> > Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:28 am (PDT)

> > My son who is pretty much dairy free and has been for years..has this but

> > on just one side....was told that it was one of the side effects of

> > mercury...not sure if that is true...but also that it was quite benign.

> > Ronni

> > >

> > >

> > > Is he eating/drinking lots of animal products with all their (cow, etc)

> > hormones?

> > > S S

> > >

> > >

> > > gynecomastia

> > > Posted by: " sunflower_luvbooks " sunflower0904@ sunflower_luvbooks

> > > Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:42 pm (PDT)

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > > My 7 yo son is showing breast buds.

> > > Does anyone know why and what do I need to do?

> > > We finished round 20 at 19mg of ALA and 19mg of DMPS.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Sunny

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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I heard some soy products contain estrogen or what they call " estrogen mimicking

compounds " EMCs.

Does he eat a lot of Soy products on his GFCF diet?

TJ

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Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:28:31 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: gynecomastia

My son who is pretty much dairy free and has been for years...has this but on

just one side....was told that it was one of the side effects of mercury...not

sure if that is true...but also that it was quite benign.

Ronni

>

> Is he eating/drinking lots of animal products with all their (cow, etc)

hormones?

> S S

>

> gynecomastia

> Posted by: " sunflower_luvbooks " sunflower0904@ ... sunflower_luvbooks

> Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:42 pm (PDT)

>

>

>

> Hello,

> My 7 yo son is showing breast buds. Does anyone know why and what do I need to

do?

> We finished round 20 at 19mg of ALA and 19mg of DMPS.

>

> Thanks,

> Sunny

>

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I've had gynecomastia since I was a teenager, not knowing that I was hypo. I've

been in treatment now for about 10 years, and have taken Arimidex for 5 years or

so. It has not improved my gyno, so I have to assume that in my case - as in

many cases - the only solution is an operation I can't afford. At my age - 50 -

it's becoming less and less important, but still, I'd like to be able to go

shirtless on the beach without feeling humiliated.

>

> > From: lawil32 <lawil32@...>

> > Subject: gynecomastia

> >

> > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:58 AM

> > on THT 7  yrs have  mild

> > gynecomastia will Arimidex correct or reduce symptom is

> > anything helpful, Exclude operation   

> >

> >

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It depends on what symptoms you are having. I had breast and nipple pain, with

just some swelling. Arimidex got rid of the pain and swelling as well. If you

have breast tissue growth, then it probably would not go away.

bjesplin

> would indolplex with dim help prevent/reduce gynecomastia?

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I am sorry but it's junk been there done that. If it dose not say Indolplex/DIM

it dose not work for me. And when it comes in caps and you need to cut the dose

how do you do this. You can try this get some olive oil open the caps pore it

into a tsp of the oil in a bigger spoon and mix it and take it this way doing

this it might work because it will not get killed in your stomach.

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> From: esplinbj <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: gynecomastia

>

> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:47 PM

> I have used Nature's Way DIM

> Plus.  It has BioResponse DIM, which is supposed to

> have good absorbtion.  I don't know how it compares

> with Indolplex DIM.

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> > > > would indolplex with dim help

> prevent/reduce

> > > gynecomastia?

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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:58:20 -0000, you wrote:

>on THT 7 yrs have mild gynecomastia will Arimidex correct or reduce symptom

is anything helpful, Exclude operation

It will stop it. It may shrink some, but if breast tissue has

developed while it may shrink it will not reverse and go away.

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Tried DIMM for a long time, could not tell any difference in

anything. Stopped bothering with it years ago.

Had liposuction surgery to suck fat out of breasts,

best think I ever did.

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It depends on what you are calling gynecomastia. If all that's there is fat,

then DIM, Arimidex, or whatever wouldn't help because the fat isn't there

because of E2. Just losing weight should get rid of it. If it's true

gynecomastia with breast tissue growth, then something to lower E2 should stop

the progression of it, but not necessarily reverse the breast tissue growth, in

which case surgery would be the only treatment to get rid of the tissue.

>

> Tried DIMM for a long time, could not tell any difference in

> anything. Stopped bothering with it years ago.

>

> Had liposuction surgery to suck fat out of breasts,

> best think I ever did.

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Well I was flat before starting on TRT.

Now I have Nice manboobs. I have to correct this. Will let you know if it can be

done!

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Den 15. sep. 2010 kl. 21.39 skrev " a123zick " <TBOZICK1@...>:

Hs anyone had problems with Gynecomastia after being on Androgel for

Hypogonadism ? Were you able to correct it by some means without stopping the

Androgel? My doctor has not come up with a solution and I am afraid to stop the

T treatments after beign on it for over 2 years.

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Gyno is caused by elevated estrogen levels. The testosterone and estradiol

molecules are very similar. Testosterone can convert to estradiol, but estradiol

doesn't convert back to testosterone.

There is an enzyme called aromatase the lives in adipose(fat)tissue. The

aromatase molecule surrounds the testosterone molecule, strips off a side chain

portion of the molecule and converts it to estradiol.

There is an execellent animation demonstrating this process here:

http://www.arimidex.com/how-arimidex-works.aspx

There is a drug called Arimidex, the generic is Anastrazole, that is an

aromatase inhibitor. It is designed to treat breast cancer. For that the dose

is usually a 1 mg pill per day.

That's too much for men on TRT, and typically we would take 1/4 mg every other

day. Phil has described his method of determining whether your estrogen is too

high or low many times on this forum.

Since aromatase lives in adipose tissue, and breasts are mostly fat, the process

can snowball after a while. Once the boobs have a " toehold " and have established

themselves, they are yours to keep.

Only a surgeons knife will make them go away after that.

Randy Hoops

Springfield, MO

>

> Hs anyone had problems with Gynecomastia after being on Androgel for

Hypogonadism ? Were you able to correct it by some means without stopping the

Androgel? My doctor has not come up with a solution and I am afraid to stop the

T treatments after beign on it for over 2 years.

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