Re: I am 65, retired and on medicare. Prescribed Testim 1% at est $300 per month

[Guest guest]

Injectable is about the cheapest at $20mos.. I think Androgel is more

expensive then Testim, but I can be wrong about that.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:47 AM, okiedokietoday@... <

okiedokietoday@...> wrote:

> Is androgel as good and have any different side effects or consequences?

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> What is cheapest safest way to solve the problem? My T was 175 on a scale

> of 250 up !

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> Feeling sluggish, foggish, vertigo etc....

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> Thanks

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[Guest guest]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:47:05 -0000, you wrote:

>Is androgel as good and have any different side effects or consequences?

>

>What is cheapest safest way to solve the problem? My T was 175 on a scale of

250 up !

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>Feeling sluggish, foggish, vertigo etc....

>

>Thanks

Weekly injections are what most of us go to. Injections are CHEAP. By

the vial it's less than ten dollars a shot. Under $40 a month.

Medicare pays for it and the onsite injections is my understanding.

Many doctors try to go every two weeks for convenience, but lots of us

get a roller coaster effect from that. The dose is double so in the

beginning of the two weeks your levels are higher and then by the end

they may have plummeted below what you need . Weekly knocks down the

peaks and raises the trough to be more even.

[Guest guest]

Androgel and Testim are brand name very very expensive, all drug company

profit.

Learn to self inject, cheapest and most effective.

[Guest guest]

kahrcw9 wrote:

> Androgel and Testim are brand name very very expensive, all drug company

profit.

> Learn to self inject, cheapest and most effective.

Also compounded t cream at 10% can be had at compounding pharmacies.

The price is a lot cheaper and quite a bet LESS is needed each day.

However, I still prefer injections since I only have to do them weekly

and they don't cause estradiol to go up for me.

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[Guest guest]

I use androgel - 7.5 mg each morning - it works great. I too am 65 years old and

my endrocrinologist has found the right amount for me. At first I was taking

only 5 mg each day but that was too little based on my numbers so he doubled it

and that was too much. Just like in the Goldilocks story 7.5 is just right. My

numbers are good (testosterone and psa) though he will monitor it periodically.

 

The only side affect that I have notices is I am horny as hell. After putting it

on I come up to the computer, watch a little porn and stroke away getting a real

good hardon.

 

Hope tht answers you questions - if you have any other questions you need

answered contact me at my e-mail address old_retired_big_guy@...

 

From: okiedokietoday@... <okiedokietoday@...>

Subject: I am 65, retired and on medicare. Prescribed Testim 1%

at est $300 per month

Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 2:47 PM

Is androgel as good and have any different side effects or consequences?

What is cheapest safest way to solve the problem? My T was 175 on a scale of 250

up !

Feeling sluggish, foggish, vertigo etc....

Thanks

[Guest guest]

I agree with Steve, I get a 10% compounded gel from a local pharmacy, it costs

about $70 but last a couple of months.

Consider that both Testim and Androgel have ONLY ONE PERCENT actual

testosterone, and we are talking ten times as much, so a LOT LESS is needed to

rub in.

norton

[Guest guest]

Your post is interesting to me, I am 59, primary, take androgel - 7.5-10

grams/day and my libido is through the roof. I have found that androgel,

vigorous daily exercise (free weights + cardio), solid diet = horny old guy that

does not need ED medication of any type.

I also find that free porn clips only fuels my libido!

I am interested if pornography helps others with their libido and

erections/ejaculations?

I am 65, retired and on medicare. Prescribed Testim 1%

at est $300 per month

Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 2:47 PM

Is androgel as good and have any different side effects or consequences?

What is cheapest safest way to solve the problem? My T was 175 on a scale of 250

up !

Feeling sluggish, foggish, vertigo etc....

Thanks

[Guest guest]

I had prostate cancer in 2005 so am concerned about that too! I had it cryoed as

best as they could. PSA has been steady and low like .3.

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> From: okiedokietoday@... <okiedokietoday@...>

> Subject: I am 65, retired and on medicare. Prescribed Testim 1%

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[Guest guest]

Do you need a prescription for getting compound gels? Reason why i ask is ive

been a patient with an Doctor in NJ for nearly 10 yrs now and over the yrs his

practice has gotten farther and farther away and every attempt to find a new

doctor to see the same diagnosis as my current has been futile (nearly

attempts) I believe for whatever reason, they are refusing to come to the same

conclusion... so

If i can get an natural androgel supplment that is not harmful and fully

researched tested etc and just as effective... i would be extremely happy!

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> I agree with Steve, I get a 10% compounded gel from a local pharmacy, it

costs about $70 but last a couple of months.

> Consider that both Testim and Androgel have ONLY ONE PERCENT actual

testosterone, and we are talking ten times as much, so a LOT LESS is needed to

rub in.

> norton

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[Guest guest]

See a doctor with a D.O. designation.

You can provide him with the printouts from " allthingsmale.com " on TRT.

The Life Extension Foundation (lef.org) in the past 6 months or so had a

magazine article T prescriptions and gave a sample compounding

prescription for 10% T that one can take to their doctor.

My best guess at a solution is to get your old doctor to make the change

to compounding 10% T with the justification that you are strapped for

money and this is both cheaper and easier to apply.

Then, when that is accomplished, find a D.O. near you and say you just

want to continue with your current treatments that you've had for " YEARS " .

Steve

AJH67007 wrote:

> Do you need a prescription for getting compound gels? Reason why i ask is

ive been a patient with an Doctor in NJ for nearly 10 yrs now and over the yrs

his practice has gotten farther and farther away and every attempt to find a new

doctor to see the same diagnosis as my current has been futile (nearly

attempts) I believe for whatever reason, they are refusing to come to the same

conclusion... so

>

> If i can get an natural androgel supplment that is not harmful and fully

researched tested etc and just as effective... i would be extremely happy!

>

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>> I agree with Steve, I get a 10% compounded gel from a local pharmacy, it

costs about $70 but last a couple of months.

>> Consider that both Testim and Androgel have ONLY ONE PERCENT actual

testosterone, and we are talking ten times as much, so a LOT LESS is needed to

rub in.

>> norton

>>

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Steve - dudescholar4@...

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

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to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

[Guest guest]

All testosterone requires a prescription.

Call around and find a compounding pharmacy and see if they will mix you up a

jar of five or 10% T gel, gel not a cream.

I use 10%, which is ten times more T than Androgel or Testim which are only one

percent.

It costs about $70 for a jar and lasts a couple of months, just a half teaspoon

a day rubbed in to the no fact area of the inside bicep.

I get mine from Highland Pharmacy in Albuquerque, call them, they ship.

norton