Re: Re: Different reasons to use HCG (1,2 or 3)

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That sounds like Dr Crisler.

On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:03 AM, jimevans_2000 wrote:

> There's another reason I can think of having to do with hormones,

> enzyme balance, and subjective feelings of " well being " . To quote from

> my doctor:

>

> " Patients all report they feel dramatically better once the HCG

> regimen is initiated (and they were properly tuned up on testosterone

> before they started it). HCG, as a LH analog, increases the activity

> of the P450 SCC enzyme, which converts CHOL to pregnenolone. Thus all

> three hormonal pathways are stimulated in patients who may be either

> entirely, or very nearly, HPTA suppressed. It is my belief this may be

> a factor in the heightened sense of well-being my patients report

> throughout the week—far in excess of what a minimal dose of HCG would

> produce by virtue of induced testosterone production. "

>

> I take HCG for reasons 1, 3, and the reasons above - I think it adds

> to my overall sense of well-being.

>

> Jim

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting...

So you are using HCG to prevent testicle atrophy and

to increase testicle size. May I ask how much dose of

HCG and T do you take and on what basis??????????????

Also, what was your LH, FSH, T and E2 levels BEFORE

taking them and AFTER taking them.

The answers to these will help give me and others

ideas; and thanks for responding.

--- jimevans_2000 <jimevans_2000@...> wrote:

> There's another reason I can think of having to do

> with hormones,

> enzyme balance, and subjective feelings of " well

> being " . To quote from

> my doctor:

>

> " Patients all report they feel dramatically better

> once the HCG

> regimen is initiated (and they were properly tuned

> up on testosterone

> before they started it). HCG, as a LH analog,

> increases the activity

> of the P450 SCC enzyme, which converts CHOL to

> pregnenolone. Thus all

> three hormonal pathways are stimulated in patients

> who may be either

> entirely, or very nearly, HPTA suppressed. It is my

> belief this may be

> a factor in the heightened sense of well-being my

> patients report

> throughout the week—far in excess of what a minimal

> dose of HCG would

> produce by virtue of induced testosterone

> production. "

>

> I take HCG for reasons 1, 3, and the reasons above -

> I think it adds

> to my overall sense of well-being.

>

> Jim

>

>

>

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Thnx. Yea I would love that.

I might contact Dr Crisler, I've seen his his site,

for a long one off visit (with 2-3 visits back) in

order to get the right T and HCG dosage for me, along

with E2 control.

I need to HCG, for my low sperm count and testicle

size.

My sperm count is 2% and my testicles are under half

the size of what they should be

--- jimevans_2000 <jimevans_2000@...> wrote:

> I don't have my records in front of me, but I know

> that my testicles

> are about the same size that they were before I

> started TRT - perhaps

> a tad bit smaller, but still within the normal

> range. I'm hoping that

> I can actually get a slight increase in my HCG

> dosage soon. Sorry I

> can't give you my LH, FSH, T and E2 levels.

>

> At one point I had an endo who was only giving me

> HCG. Prior to that,

> my T levels were under 200. They went up to the 300

> levels with HCG

> and my sperm count went way up, but as I was not

> interested in

> impregnating any women, fertility wasn't an issue

> for me, and I didn't

> agree with his treatment. He also was not concerned

> with E2 levels. My

> current doctor (Crisler) then took over and raised

> my T levels to over

> 400 (still lower than I'd like) while keeping my E2

> levels well within

> normal range (under 30?). I'm getting tested

> tomorrow and will post

> the results of my current regimen once they are

> processed if you'd like.

>

> Jim

>

>

> ... > Interesting...

> >

> > So you are using HCG to prevent testicle atrophy

> and

> > to increase testicle size. May I ask how much dose

> of

> > HCG and T do you take and on what

> basis??????????????

> >

> > Also, what was your LH, FSH, T and E2 levels

> BEFORE

> > taking them and AFTER taking them.

> >

> > The answers to these will help give me and others

> > ideas; and thanks for responding.

> >

> > --- jimevans_2000 <jimevans_2000@...> wrote:

> >

> > > There's another reason I can think of having to

> do

> > > with hormones,

> > > enzyme balance, and subjective feelings of " well

> > > being " . To quote from

> > > my doctor:

> > >

> > > " Patients all report they feel dramatically

> better

> > > once the HCG

> > > regimen is initiated (and they were properly

> tuned

> > > up on testosterone

> > > before they started it). HCG, as a LH analog,

> > > increases the activity

> > > of the P450 SCC enzyme, which converts CHOL to

> > > pregnenolone. Thus all

> > > three hormonal pathways are stimulated in

> patients

> > > who may be either

> > > entirely, or very nearly, HPTA suppressed. It is

> my

> > > belief this may be

> > > a factor in the heightened sense of well-being

> my

> > > patients report

> > > throughout the week—far in excess of what a

> minimal

> > > dose of HCG would

> > > produce by virtue of induced testosterone

> > > production. "

> > >

> > > I take HCG for reasons 1, 3, and the reasons

> above -

> > > I think it adds

> > > to my overall sense of well-being.

> > >

> > > Jim

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Quote:

" you have small balls for a guy! "

My current wife told me the same thing.

kissie

Re: Different reasons to use HCG (1,2 or 3)

My second wife - what a piece of work she was - at one point said,

" you have small balls for a guy! " - something every guy wants to hear.

Years later I told my endo, and he said, " let's take a look... Nope,

they're absolutely average. "

For years I walked around thinking they were small when they weren't.

Even to this day I wonder about it a bit.

If I can get a higher dose of HCG I'm hoping to bump up the size a bit.

Jim

> > >

> > > > There's another reason I can think of having to

> > do

> > > > with hormones,

> > > > enzyme balance, and subjective feelings of " well

> > > > being " . To quote from

> > > > my doctor:

> > > >

> > > > " Patients all report they feel dramatically

> > better

> > > > once the HCG

> > > > regimen is initiated (and they were properly

> > tuned

> > > > up on testosterone

> > > > before they started it). HCG, as a LH analog,

> > > > increases the activity

> > > > of the P450 SCC enzyme, which converts CHOL to

> > > > pregnenolone. Thus all

> > > > three hormonal pathways are stimulated in

> > patients

> > > > who may be either

> > > > entirely, or very nearly, HPTA suppressed. It is

> > my

> > > > belief this may be

> > > > a factor in the heightened sense of well-being

> > my

> > > > patients report

> > > > throughout the week-far in excess of what a

> > minimal

> > > > dose of HCG would

> > > > produce by virtue of induced testosterone

> > > > production. "

> > > >

> > > > I take HCG for reasons 1, 3, and the reasons

> > above -

> > > > I think it adds

> > > > to my overall sense of well-being.

> > > >

> > > > Jim

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

So what is your HCG and T therapy? The doses etc, and

are you using HCG in order to increase the size for

the short term and then decrease the HCG dose to the

normal level when using T????

what are your doses, etc.

thnx. x

--- jimevans_2000 <jimevans_2000@...> wrote:

> My second wife - what a piece of work she was - at

> one point said,

> " you have small balls for a guy! " - something every

> guy wants to hear.

> Years later I told my endo, and he said, " let's take

> a look... Nope,

> they're absolutely average. "

>

> For years I walked around thinking they were small

> when they weren't.

> Even to this day I wonder about it a bit.

>

> If I can get a higher dose of HCG I'm hoping to bump

> up the size a bit.

>

> Jim

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > There's another reason I can think of having

> to

> > > do

> > > > > with hormones,

> > > > > enzyme balance, and subjective feelings of

> " well

> > > > > being " . To quote from

> > > > > my doctor:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Patients all report they feel dramatically

> > > better

> > > > > once the HCG

> > > > > regimen is initiated (and they were properly

> > > tuned

> > > > > up on testosterone

> > > > > before they started it). HCG, as a LH

> analog,

> > > > > increases the activity

> > > > > of the P450 SCC enzyme, which converts CHOL

> to

> > > > > pregnenolone. Thus all

> > > > > three hormonal pathways are stimulated in

> > > patients

> > > > > who may be either

> > > > > entirely, or very nearly, HPTA suppressed.

> It is

> > > my

> > > > > belief this may be

> > > > > a factor in the heightened sense of

> well-being

> > > my

> > > > > patients report

> > > > > throughout the week—far in excess of what a

> > > minimal

> > > > > dose of HCG would

> > > > > produce by virtue of induced testosterone

> > > > > production. "

> > > > >

> > > > > I take HCG for reasons 1, 3, and the reasons

> > > above -

> > > > > I think it adds

> > > > > to my overall sense of well-being.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jim

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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