Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or Long Beach...

January 13, 2008

Hi kxb9888 this Dr. is one of the best in your area hell in the

country. Men fly out to see him.

Romeo no, M.D. (831) 375-6655 395 Del Monte Ctr #305 Monterey,

CA 93940 262 Eldorado Street #100 physician, psychiatrist, Behavioral

Neuroendocrinology and Immunology (831) 626-9094 fax

He was doing some research about low testosterone at this web site

and was helping men in return. You can read his posts at this site

just go to his nick in this link and click on his nick nco then

click on " Find all posts by nco. I will try and put an att. in

this reply if it does not work go to this link and down one post you

will find his name.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/men-s-health-forum/adrenal-thread-

134240195.html

I tried the att. and it got kicked back to me.

>

> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a

good

> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and

free

> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in

this

> matter. Thanks.

>

January 13, 2008

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:05:46 -0000, you wrote:

>

> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

>for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a good

>Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

>willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

>test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in this

>matter. Thanks.

In the data base section for this group is a list of doctors. You

might also find a good GP and bring him the Guidelines form the AACE.

They might feel comfortable treating you if they have those. Most of

us find it's better to find a doctor that will listen and read, than

an " Expert " . Most of the endos spend the bulk of their practice on

diabetes, female issues, and thyroid. Most see very few hypogonadism

patients and cookbook the treatment with their 1970s, 1980s knowledge

base.

The most important thing is finding a doctor who will acknowledge the

impact and importance of E2.

The guidelines are here:

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

January 13, 2008

Thanks for quick reply. Dr. no is a great doctor however, he is

very much out of my area by around a couple hundred miles. I'm

actually in Southern California- Los Angeles area. Hope this helps.--

- In , " Philip Georgian "

<pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> Hi kxb9888 this Dr. is one of the best in your area hell in the

> country. Men fly out to see him.

> Romeo no, M.D. (831) 375-6655 395 Del Monte Ctr #305

Monterey,

> CA 93940 262 Eldorado Street #100 physician, psychiatrist,

Behavioral

> Neuroendocrinology and Immunology (831) 626-9094 fax

>

> He was doing some research about low testosterone at this web site

> and was helping men in return. You can read his posts at this

site

> just go to his nick in this link and click on his nick nco

then

> click on " Find all posts by nco. I will try and put an att.

in

> this reply if it does not work go to this link and down one post

you

> will find his name.

> http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/men-s-health-forum/adrenal-thread-

> 134240195.html

> I tried the att. and it got kicked back to me.

>

> >

> > I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had

it

> > for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding

a

> good

> > Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are

not

> > willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and

> free

> > test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help

in

> this

> > matter. Thanks.

> >

>

January 13, 2008

There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named Small. He's

sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business and

pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's taking

patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

Why I recommend him:

1) He has experience with TRT.

2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

knows what he's doing to me).

Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is Theodore

Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

not.

On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a good

> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in this

> matter. Thanks.

>

January 13, 2008

Any ideas on how much he charges for an first office visit, follow up care,

if he prescribes injectable T and HCG, etc?

I have heard mixed reviews on Dr. Friedman. That he only uses Levoxyl

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Dave

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:30 PM

Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or Long

Beach...

There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named Small. He's

sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business and

pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's taking

patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

Why I recommend him:

1) He has experience with TRT.

2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

knows what he's doing to me).

Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is Theodore

Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

not.

On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a good

> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in this

> matter. Thanks.

>

January 13, 2008

The thing is you see the man once and the rest of the treatment can be done over

Email or phone. This is what the guys do the fly in to see him. Dr. dose

this to. Most of the treatment is labs and meds.

Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote:

There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named Small. He's

sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business and

pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's taking

patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

Why I recommend him:

1) He has experience with TRT.

2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

knows what he's doing to me).

Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is Theodore

Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

not.

On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a good

> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in this

> matter. Thanks.

>

January 13, 2008

You drive in and see him then do the rest over the Email or phone this is how he

treats men that fly in to see him most of your treatment is about labs and meds.

Dr. here in MI. does this also.

kxb9888 <kxb9888@...> wrote: Thanks for quick reply. Dr. no

is a great doctor however, he is

very much out of my area by around a couple hundred miles. I'm

actually in Southern California- Los Angeles area. Hope this helps.--

- In , " Philip Georgian "

<pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> Hi kxb9888 this Dr. is one of the best in your area hell in the

> country. Men fly out to see him.

> Romeo no, M.D. (831) 375-6655 395 Del Monte Ctr #305

Monterey,

> CA 93940 262 Eldorado Street #100 physician, psychiatrist,

Behavioral

> Neuroendocrinology and Immunology (831) 626-9094 fax

>

> He was doing some research about low testosterone at this web site

> and was helping men in return. You can read his posts at this

site

> just go to his nick in this link and click on his nick nco

then

> click on " Find all posts by nco. I will try and put an att.

in

> this reply if it does not work go to this link and down one post

you

> will find his name.

> http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/men-s-health-forum/adrenal-thread-

> 134240195.html

> I tried the att. and it got kicked back to me.

>

> >

> > I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had

it

> > for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding

a

> good

> > Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are

not

> > willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and

> free

> > test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help

in

> this

> > matter. Thanks.

> >

>

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

---------------------------------

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January 13, 2008

You should know that Dr. no from what I understand only sees people

that have a mental health issues as well. My ticket in to see him (it seems)

was that my HMO endo told me I was " just fine " with my low normal T, and

that I was probably depressed. Prozac was my next step.

I knew better from my reading online (thanks Phil especially, you keep me on

track) that my T level of 300 is my REAL problem.

Anyway, my first contact with Dr. no was an email and I did mention my

" depression " angle.

I too live in S. California...but Monterey is not really that bad a drive.

My wife and I drove up in the morning, stayed the night at a great place,

dined out, had a great drive by the coast.

http://www.wildnatureimages.com/Monterey.htm

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of kxb9888

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:56 AM

Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or Long

Beach...

Thanks for quick reply. Dr. no is a great doctor however, he is

very much out of my area by around a couple hundred miles. I'm

actually in Southern California- Los Angeles area. Hope this helps.--

- In @ <mailto: %40>

, " Philip Georgian "

<pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> Hi kxb9888 this Dr. is one of the best in your area hell in the

> country. Men fly out to see him.

> Romeo no, M.D. (831) 375-6655 395 Del Monte Ctr #305

Monterey,

> CA 93940 262 Eldorado Street #100 physician, psychiatrist,

Behavioral

> Neuroendocrinology and Immunology (831) 626-9094 fax

>

> He was doing some research about low testosterone at this web site

> and was helping men in return. You can read his posts at this

site

> just go to his nick in this link and click on his nick nco

then

> click on " Find all posts by nco. I will try and put an att.

in

> this reply if it does not work go to this link and down one post

you

> will find his name.

> http://forum.

<http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/men-s-health-forum/adrenal-thread->

mesomorphosis.com/men-s-health-forum/adrenal-thread-

> 134240195.html

> I tried the att. and it got kicked back to me.

>

> >

> > I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had

it

> > for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding

a

> good

> > Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are

not

> > willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and

> free

> > test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help

in

> this

> > matter. Thanks.

> >

>

January 13, 2008

Sorry, I don't any of that stuff about Friedman. I spoke to his

office a couple of years ago, and they said he definitely does TRT for

paitents. He seems to be more an adrenal expert than anything else,

though his latest book he's hawking on his site is about thyroid

treatment. A glance through that should show his thoughts on Armour

or Levoxl.

On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:13 PM, neil wrote:

> Any ideas on how much he charges for an first office visit, follow

> up care,

> if he prescribes injectable T and HCG, etc?

>

> I have heard mixed reviews on Dr. Friedman. That he only uses Levoxyl

>

> Neil

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto:

> ]

> On Behalf Of Dave

> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:30 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or

> Long

> Beach...

>

> There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named Small. He's

> sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business and

> pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's taking

> patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

>

> Why I recommend him:

>

> 1) He has experience with TRT.

> 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

> 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

> knows what he's doing to me).

>

> Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is Theodore

> Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

>

> Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

> damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

>

> Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

> not.

>

> On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

>

>> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

>> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a

>> good

>> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

>> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

>> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in

>> this

>> matter. Thanks.

>>

January 13, 2008

Phil, understood about nco and Crisler seeing you once and then

doing the rest by email/phone. For some people, though that option

doesn't work for them. Maybe they can't afford even one trip to

either doc (time or money wise). Maybe they just want a more personal

and face to face experience.

I think anyone who can spare the time and money to see Crisler or

nco should make the pilgrimage, but for those who don't we should

be able to find someone a bit more local in a huge place like Los

Angeles County. ;-)

On Jan 13, 2008, at 3:10 PM, philip georgian wrote:

> The thing is you see the man once and the rest of the treatment can

> be done over Email or phone. This is what the guys do the fly in to

> see him. Dr. dose this to. Most of the treatment is labs and

> meds.

>

> Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote:

> There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named

> Small. He's

> sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business and

> pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's taking

> patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

>

> Why I recommend him:

>

> 1) He has experience with TRT.

> 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

> 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

> knows what he's doing to me).

>

> Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is Theodore

> Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

>

> Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

> damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

>

> Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

> not.

>

> On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

>

>> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

>> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a

>> good

>> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

>> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

>> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in

>> this

>> matter. Thanks.

>>

January 13, 2008

When you see a doctor for TRT etc, is it important to

mention thyroid, adrenals and pituitary?

As I may have all problems i.e. cough, secondary

Adrenal Insificiany, hypothyroidism along with my

sexual dysfuntion and small testicles.

--- Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote:

> Sorry, I don't any of that stuff about Friedman. I

> spoke to his

> office a couple of years ago, and they said he

> definitely does TRT for

> paitents. He seems to be more an adrenal expert

> than anything else,

> though his latest book he's hawking on his site is

> about thyroid

> treatment. A glance through that should show his

> thoughts on Armour

> or Levoxl.

>

> On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:13 PM, neil wrote:

>

> > Any ideas on how much he charges for an first

> office visit, follow

> > up care,

> > if he prescribes injectable T and HCG, etc?

> >

> > I have heard mixed reviews on Dr. Friedman. That

> he only uses Levoxyl

> >

> > Neil

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From:

> [mailto:

> > ]

> > On Behalf Of Dave

> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:30 PM

> >

> > Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in

> the Torrance, Ca or

> > Long

> > Beach...

> >

> > There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named

> Small. He's

> > sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad

> to mix business and

> > pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in

> LA, and he's taking

> > patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

> >

> > Why I recommend him:

> >

> > 1) He has experience with TRT.

> > 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

> > 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always

> a good sign a doc

> > knows what he's doing to me).

> >

> > Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of

> seeing in LA is Theodore

> > Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at

> www.goodhormonehealth.com

> >

> > Phil always recommends nco for Californians,

> but Monterey is a

> > damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

> >

> > Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if

> they did you right or

> > not.

> >

> > On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

> >

> >> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low

> DHEA. I've had it

> >> for several years and I'm having an extremely

> hard time finding a

> >> good

> >> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos

> but, they are not

> >> willing to help me despite having a total test

> level of 220 and free

> >> test that is below normal. I would greatly

> appreciate any help in

> >> this

> >> matter. Thanks.

> >>

January 13, 2008

Hi, I am actually considering, a one time visit, and

then on the phone type plan.

My problems are small testicles, never had an

erection, 2% sperm working, off ratio trunk, cough,

etc.

I may have secondary hypothyroidism (secondary hypo)

and secondary AI. This is all due to my low cortisol,

etc causing my severe coughs.

But in order to get my sexual organs workin and

developing with HCG, T, which doctor out of the 2

(nco and Crisler ) will u suggest to be more

suitable. Do they specialise in thyroid or adrenals

etc? As some drs do..., but i am planning to treat my

cough etc with another specialist,,,BUT, i thght it

may be imporant for a dr to know about the other

problems in order to get to the root of the cause of

the problems. u get me?

--- Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote:

> Phil, understood about nco and Crisler seeing

> you once and then

> doing the rest by email/phone. For some people,

> though that option

> doesn't work for them. Maybe they can't afford even

> one trip to

> either doc (time or money wise). Maybe they just

> want a more personal

> and face to face experience.

>

> I think anyone who can spare the time and money to

> see Crisler or

> nco should make the pilgrimage, but for those

> who don't we should

> be able to find someone a bit more local in a huge

> place like Los

> Angeles County. ;-)

>

> On Jan 13, 2008, at 3:10 PM, philip georgian wrote:

>

> > The thing is you see the man once and the rest of

> the treatment can

> > be done over Email or phone. This is what the

> guys do the fly in to

> > see him. Dr. dose this to. Most of the

> treatment is labs and

> > meds.

> >

> > Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote:

> > There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area,

> named

> > Small. He's

> > sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad

> to mix business and

> > pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in

> LA, and he's taking

> > patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

> >

> > Why I recommend him:

> >

> > 1) He has experience with TRT.

> > 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

> > 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always

> a good sign a doc

> > knows what he's doing to me).

> >

> > Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of

> seeing in LA is Theodore

> > Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at

> www.goodhormonehealth.com

> >

> > Phil always recommends nco for Californians,

> but Monterey is a

> > damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

> >

> > Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if

> they did you right or

> > not.

> >

> > On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

> >

> >> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low

> DHEA. I've had it

> >> for several years and I'm having an extremely

> hard time finding a

> >> good

> >> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos

> but, they are not

> >> willing to help me despite having a total test

> level of 220 and free

> >> test that is below normal. I would greatly

> appreciate any help in

> >> this

> >> matter. Thanks.

> >>

January 13, 2008

I'm sorry Dave...I was very unclear about what I was asking and I jumped

around.

I was asking about your friend Dr. Small. Any idea about his charges, if he

does injectable T --->AND<--- hcg, adrenals, etc?

Thanks, sorry again.

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Dave

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:47 PM

Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or Long

Beach...

Sorry, I don't any of that stuff about Friedman. I spoke to his

office a couple of years ago, and they said he definitely does TRT for

paitents. He seems to be more an adrenal expert than anything else,

though his latest book he's hawking on his site is about thyroid

treatment. A glance through that should show his thoughts on Armour

or Levoxl.

On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:13 PM, neil wrote:

> Any ideas on how much he charges for an first office visit, follow

> up care,

> if he prescribes injectable T and HCG, etc?

>

> I have heard mixed reviews on Dr. Friedman. That he only uses Levoxyl

>

> Neil

>

> _____

>

> From: @ <mailto: %40>

[mailto: @

<mailto: %40>

> ]

> On Behalf Of Dave

> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:30 PM

> @ <mailto: %40>

> Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or

> Long

> Beach...

>

> There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named Small. He's

> sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business and

> pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's taking

> patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

>

> Why I recommend him:

>

> 1) He has experience with TRT.

> 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

> 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

> knows what he's doing to me).

>

> Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is Theodore

> Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

>

> Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

> damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

>

> Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

> not.

>

> On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

>

>> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

>> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a

>> good

>> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

>> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

>> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in

>> this

>> matter. Thanks.

>>

January 14, 2008

Dr. Crisler will work with your family Dr. to test and treat you over the phone

he does train a lot of Dr.'s on this is big town hall meetings. The problem is

most will not do this yet they will send you to an Endo and they know nothing

about it.

Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote: Phil, understood about nco and

Crisler seeing you once and then

doing the rest by email/phone. For some people, though that option

doesn't work for them. Maybe they can't afford even one trip to

either doc (time or money wise). Maybe they just want a more personal

and face to face experience.

I think anyone who can spare the time and money to see Crisler or

nco should make the pilgrimage, but for those who don't we should

be able to find someone a bit more local in a huge place like Los

Angeles County. ;-)

On Jan 13, 2008, at 3:10 PM, philip georgian wrote:

> The thing is you see the man once and the rest of the treatment can

> be done over Email or phone. This is what the guys do the fly in to

> see him. Dr. dose this to. Most of the treatment is labs and

> meds.

>

> Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote:

> There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named

> Small. He's

> sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business and

> pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's taking

> patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

>

> Why I recommend him:

>

> 1) He has experience with TRT.

> 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

> 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

> knows what he's doing to me).

>

> Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is Theodore

> Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

>

> Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

> damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

>

> Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

> not.

>

> On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

>

>> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

>> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a

>> good

>> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

>> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

>> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in

>> this

>> matter. Thanks.

>>

January 14, 2008

No this is not true Dr. no spent hrs. on the boards at MESO saying he is

rewrighting mental health in the US and the world. He has found most of the

problems people have are not mental but hormones.

neil <neilneil@...> wrote: You should know that Dr. no

from what I understand only sees people

that have a mental health issues as well. My ticket in to see him (it seems)

was that my HMO endo told me I was " just fine " with my low normal T, and

that I was probably depressed. Prozac was my next step.

I knew better from my reading online (thanks Phil especially, you keep me on

track) that my T level of 300 is my REAL problem.

Anyway, my first contact with Dr. no was an email and I did mention my

" depression " angle.

I too live in S. California...but Monterey is not really that bad a drive.

My wife and I drove up in the morning, stayed the night at a great place,

dined out, had a great drive by the coast.

http://www.wildnatureimages.com/Monterey.htm

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of kxb9888

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:56 AM

Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or Long

Beach...

Thanks for quick reply. Dr. no is a great doctor however, he is

very much out of my area by around a couple hundred miles. I'm

actually in Southern California- Los Angeles area. Hope this helps.--

- In @ <mailto: %40>

, " Philip Georgian "

<pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> Hi kxb9888 this Dr. is one of the best in your area hell in the

> country. Men fly out to see him.

> Romeo no, M.D. (831) 375-6655 395 Del Monte Ctr #305

Monterey,

> CA 93940 262 Eldorado Street #100 physician, psychiatrist,

Behavioral

> Neuroendocrinology and Immunology (831) 626-9094 fax

>

> He was doing some research about low testosterone at this web site

> and was helping men in return. You can read his posts at this

site

> just go to his nick in this link and click on his nick nco

then

> click on " Find all posts by nco. I will try and put an att.

in

> this reply if it does not work go to this link and down one post

you

> will find his name.

> http://forum.

<http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/men-s-health-forum/adrenal-thread->

mesomorphosis.com/men-s-health-forum/adrenal-thread-

> 134240195.html

> I tried the att. and it got kicked back to me.

>

> >

> > I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had

it

> > for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding

a

> good

> > Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are

not

> > willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and

> free

> > test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help

in

> this

> > matter. Thanks.

> >

>

January 14, 2008

Small is a DO. I believe he follows Dr. 's protocols. I haven't

spoken to him in a while, but last I did he was using TRT injectables,

HCG, etc. Re: adrenals, he recommended some topical cream to me once

to reduce cortisol levels.

I'm not even sure he is still taking new patients. He has a lot of

high profile celebrity patients, with offices in Marina and Beverly

Hills, so I don't imagine he's cheap. Insurance should cover part of

his bill regardless. He was branching into a new business the last

time we spoke, so he may not even be practicing anymore, but look him

up in the phone directory or something and give him a call.

Another trick I learned from my thyroid support group for finding a

doctor was to try calling your local pharmacies and asking if they

could recommend a doctor that prescribes whatever you're looking for.

I've never actually tried that, though. Some manufacturers (such as

Armour) actually list doctors who prescribe their products on their

websites. That may be more difficult to find with controlled

substances like Testosterone.

On Jan 13, 2008, at 8:36 PM, neil wrote:

> I'm sorry Dave...I was very unclear about what I was asking and I

> jumped

> around.

>

> I was asking about your friend Dr. Small. Any idea about his

> charges, if he

> does injectable T --->AND<--- hcg, adrenals, etc?

>

> Thanks, sorry again.

>

> Neil

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto:

> ]

> On Behalf Of Dave

> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:47 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or

> Long

> Beach...

>

> Sorry, I don't any of that stuff about Friedman. I spoke to his

> office a couple of years ago, and they said he definitely does TRT for

> paitents. He seems to be more an adrenal expert than anything else,

> though his latest book he's hawking on his site is about thyroid

> treatment. A glance through that should show his thoughts on Armour

> or Levoxl.

>

> On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:13 PM, neil wrote:

>

>> Any ideas on how much he charges for an first office visit, follow

>> up care,

>> if he prescribes injectable T and HCG, etc?

>>

>> I have heard mixed reviews on Dr. Friedman. That he only uses Levoxyl

>>

>> Neil

>>

>> _____

>>

>> From: @ <mailto: %40>

> [mailto: @

> <mailto: %40>

>> ]

>> On Behalf Of Dave

>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:30 PM

>> @ <mailto: %40>

>

>> Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in the Torrance, Ca or

>> Long

>> Beach...

>>

>> There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named Small. He's

>> sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad to mix business

>> and

>> pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in LA, and he's

>> taking

>> patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

>>

>> Why I recommend him:

>>

>> 1) He has experience with TRT.

>> 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

>> 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always a good sign a doc

>> knows what he's doing to me).

>>

>> Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of seeing in LA is

>> Theodore

>> Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at www.goodhormonehealth.com

>>

>> Phil always recommends nco for Californians, but Monterey is a

>> damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

>>

>> Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if they did you right or

>> not.

>>

>> On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

>>

>>> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

>>> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a

>>> good

>>> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

>>> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

>>> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in

>>> this

>>> matter. Thanks.

>>>

January 14, 2008

I think it's important to give as complete and thorough a history of

your conditions as possible. With the endocrine system, so many

things are intertwined - high estrogen causes testosterone deficiency,

low thyroid cases adrenal fatigue, etc, etc.

On Jan 13, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Manterno Salerno wrote:

> When you see a doctor for TRT etc, is it important to

> mention thyroid, adrenals and pituitary?

>

> As I may have all problems i.e. cough, secondary

> Adrenal Insificiany, hypothyroidism along with my

> sexual dysfuntion and small testicles.

>

> --- Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote:

>

>> Sorry, I don't any of that stuff about Friedman. I

>> spoke to his

>> office a couple of years ago, and they said he

>> definitely does TRT for

>> paitents. He seems to be more an adrenal expert

>> than anything else,

>> though his latest book he's hawking on his site is

>> about thyroid

>> treatment. A glance through that should show his

>> thoughts on Armour

>> or Levoxl.

>>

>> On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:13 PM, neil wrote:

>>

>>> Any ideas on how much he charges for an first

>> office visit, follow

>>> up care,

>>> if he prescribes injectable T and HCG, etc?

>>>

>>> I have heard mixed reviews on Dr. Friedman. That

>> he only uses Levoxyl

>>>

>>> Neil

>>>

>>> _____

>>>

>>> From:

>> [mailto:

>>> ]

>>> On Behalf Of Dave

>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:30 PM

>>>

>>> Subject: Re: Finding a Doctor in

>> the Torrance, Ca or

>>> Long

>>> Beach...

>>>

>>> There's a DO in the Marina Del Rey area, named

>> Small. He's

>>> sort of a friend of mine, so I can't see him - bad

>> to mix business and

>>> pleasure in my mind, regrettably, but if you're in

>> LA, and he's taking

>>> patients, I'd really recommend giving him a try.

>>>

>>> Why I recommend him:

>>>

>>> 1) He has experience with TRT.

>>> 2) He's a reader of Dr Crisler's site.

>>> 3) He uses Armour Thyroid for his patients (always

>> a good sign a doc

>>> knows what he's doing to me).

>>>

>>> Another doc, a research endo, I've thought of

>> seeing in LA is Theodore

>>> Friedman, MD, PHD. Check him out at

>> www.goodhormonehealth.com

>>>

>>> Phil always recommends nco for Californians,

>> but Monterey is a

>>> damn long ways to drive to see a doc...

>>>

>>> Whoever you go to, post back and let us know if

>> they did you right or

>>> not.

>>>

>>> On Jan 12, 2008, at 7:05 PM, kxb9888 wrote:

>>>

>>>> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low

>> DHEA. I've had it

>>>> for several years and I'm having an extremely

>> hard time finding a

>>>> good

>>>> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos

>> but, they are not

>>>> willing to help me despite having a total test

>> level of 220 and free

>>>> test that is below normal. I would greatly

>> appreciate any help in

>>>> this

>>>> matter. Thanks.

>>>>

January 14, 2008

I see a urologist in Newport Beach, Auerbach. I'm 60 with low T's.

He's been treating me for Hypogonadism/BPH. I'm currently enrolled in a

once every 10 week T injection drug trial with him that seems to be keeping

my T levels pretty consistent. Phone # 949-644-7200. before that he Rx'd

Androgel and Testim for me.

On Jan 12, 2008 7:05 PM, kxb9888 <kxb9888@...> wrote:

> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a good

> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

> willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and free

> test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help in this

> matter. Thanks.

>

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Well, you're certainly not alone in dealing with Endo's or do do's, as I'd like

to call them. I saw two of them and they were too much in love with themselves.

I got no help from them either. Finding a good doctor is going to be a real

challenge. This may seem the long way around the barn but I found my doctor

through an independant compounding pharmacist. I asked him who he works with for

patients with hypogonadism. An independant pharmacist might be able to steer you

in a good direction.

Jaek Muran <plkaldera@...> wrote: I see a urologist in Newport

Beach, Auerbach. I'm 60 with low T's.

He's been treating me for Hypogonadism/BPH. I'm currently enrolled in a

once every 10 week T injection drug trial with him that seems to be keeping

my T levels pretty consistent. Phone # 949-644-7200. before that he Rx'd

Androgel and Testim for me.

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> I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had it

> for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding a good

> Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

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--I saw an Endo a while back and my testosterone levels were

terrible. Especially for my age and the Doc told me " I'm not

comfortable giving you testosterone because it would require a high

dose " . I was very upset when he said that. He also told me " as long

as you have a little testosterone you should feel and function

normally " . The Doc also pointed out that it doesn't matter if your

total testosterone is 200 or 1000, I should feel and function

properly and that it is all in my head. Despite my anger, I was

civilized and left the moron's office. I'll look into the

compounding pharmacy approach. Thanks.- In

, Norsworthy

<norsworthy_david@...> wrote:

>

> Well, you're certainly not alone in dealing with Endo's or do

do's, as I'd like to call them. I saw two of them and they were too

much in love with themselves. I got no help from them either.

Finding a good doctor is going to be a real challenge. This may seem

the long way around the barn but I found my doctor through an

independant compounding pharmacist. I asked him who he works with

for patients with hypogonadism. An independant pharmacist might be

able to steer you in a good direction.

>

> Jaek Muran <plkaldera@...> wrote: I see a urologist in

Newport Beach, Auerbach. I'm 60 with low T's.

> He's been treating me for Hypogonadism/BPH. I'm currently enrolled

in a

> once every 10 week T injection drug trial with him that seems to

be keeping

> my T levels pretty consistent. Phone # 949-644-7200. before that

he Rx'd

> Androgel and Testim for me.

>

> On Jan 12, 2008 7:05 PM, kxb9888 <kxb9888@...> wrote:

>

> > I'm a 33 year old male with Hypogonadism and low DHEA. I've had

it

> > for several years and I'm having an extremely hard time finding

a good

> > Doctor in my area. I've tried a couple of Endos but, they are not

> > willing to help me despite having a total test level of 220 and

free

> > test that is below normal. I would greatly appreciate any help

in this

> > matter. Thanks.

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That Doctor sounds like a lunatic. Endo's are supposed to be hormone specialists

but if I understand the comments from this forum we seem to have gotten the

least help from them. You have to wonder why that is?

I suggested an independant compounding pharmacist because these guys are

independant and they are more personable than the pharmacist working at

Wal-Mart. They know their customers better and they know the doctors writing the

prescriptions they are offering.

Hopefully one of them can point you in the right direction.

kxb9888 <kxb9888@...> wrote: