Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 330 is low. You should be in the upper 75% of the lab range. Also Free Testostorne and Bioavalable is just as importnat if not more importnat than total testosterone. Low T can cause low sex drive. T will help with sex drive but not ED. You may get help at first but that will be tempoary. Have you tried the pills for ED? C, V, and L. If these do not help you probally have more problems IE Venous Leakage or Corporal Fibrosis. Back problems and back surgery can cause some loss of penile sensitivity. This was verfied by my nuerosurgeon and male sexual function specialist (specialy trained Uro). Jack > > Hi again, I am attemtping to post this question for a second time. I dont know if my first one was received. I recall reading recently on this discussion that low T can lack of penile sensitivity. In other words to quote " for those with T, a blow job can feel as exciting as a hand shake " . I guess to further expand on this, among the symptoms of low T and hypo such as ED and low libido does it also contribute to lack of pleasurable sensations to the penis. I have noticed since my orchiectomy about a year ago I have lost some sensation. In essence, it is difficult to become aroused and once aroused, difficult to maintain an erection to complete intercourse. Is this typical? My urologist has tested my T and is 330. He says that is okay. I disagree and am seeing an endo this Friday. From what I have read I need a much higher level. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:48:47 -0000, you wrote: > >I have a dumb question but hopefully will get the correct answer from the group. I am hypo due to orchiectomies, right side April 2008 and the left side January 1997. I have noticed since the recent surgery in 2008 the sensations in my penis are different when attempting sexual arousal. It's not numb, I just dont get " worked up " like I used to. In other words, I dont get a lot of pleasurable sensations. Because of that I have a difficult time reaching orgasm if at all. > I have had trouble with T-levels and am seeing an endo next Friday. My urologist checked my T and it is 330. He says that is okay and acceptable. I tend to disagree and that is why I am seeing an endo. Does low T cause ED from loss of pleasure sensation or is it more complicated than that? Someone had posted here recently a comment that a blow job could feel like a handshake if you have low T. Is that true? Will a higher T create more pleasurable sensations? I know it may seem dumb but I dont know. You'r endo is off the wall. You need a 500 level to get morning erections and anything approaching a healthy sex life. Your level is less than that of an average 85 year old man. In addition what you describe as lack of " sensation " or arousal sounds a lot like what happens with low E2. You may produce so little T that it has your E2 levels too low also - in men E2 comes from conversion from T. I'd suggest an E2 test. and in the files section is a file on average T levels by age. Even 80 years olds are in the 500s generally. You're probably 2 std. deviations below mean or more for your age. How old are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 retrogrouch@... wrote: > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:48:47 -0000, you wrote: > >> I have a dumb question but hopefully will get the correct answer from the group. I am hypo due to orchiectomies, right side April 2008 and the left side January 1997. I have noticed since the recent surgery in 2008 the sensations in my penis are different when attempting sexual arousal. It's not numb, I just dont get " worked up " like I used to. In other words, I dont get a lot of pleasurable sensations. Because of that I have a difficult time reaching orgasm if at all. >> I have had trouble with T-levels and am seeing an endo next Friday. My urologist checked my T and it is 330. He says that is okay and acceptable. I tend to disagree and that is why I am seeing an endo. Does low T cause ED from loss of pleasure sensation or is it more complicated than that? Someone had posted here recently a comment that a blow job could feel like a handshake if you have low T. Is that true? Will a higher T create more pleasurable sensations? I know it may seem dumb but I dont know. > > > You'r endo is off the wall. You need a 500 level to get morning > erections and anything approaching a healthy sex life. I agree that the Endo is off in the weeds ... we know that to be generally true about endos. However, I had a normal quite active sex life and had my T levels checked because I was tired all the time. My total T was 140. I started shots, then patches, and later shots again with no noticeable effects from the T. However, one good heart attack at 45 about 6-7 years after starting T replacement and 4 stents later I was good as new with all my energy levels back. My tiredness was from lack of blood flow to around the heart, not low T levels. Low T doesn't diminish my libido/performance and high E2 doesn't either. However, from researching the subject I try to keep my E2 levels between 20 and 30 and my T levels above 600. I cannot however tell the difference if my T is low, high, or my E2 is low or high. > Your level is less than that of an average 85 year old man. One thing that bothers the hell out of me is that in my early 30s I had my T levels checked as well and they were at the low end of the " normal " range, that of an old man. My doctor assured me then it was " normal " . I fathered 7 children with low T levels. I should have started T replacement then but then I might have gotten the infertility problems that come from T replacement. > In addition what you describe as lack of " sensation " or arousal sounds > a lot like what happens with low E2. You may produce so little T that > it has your E2 levels too low also - in men E2 comes from conversion > from T. > > I'd suggest an E2 test. > and in the files section is a file on average T levels by age. Even 80 > years olds are in the 500s generally. You're probably 2 std. > deviations below mean or more for your age. How old are you? I agree on the E2 test as well. It needs to be checked and Endos need to get their act together. Again, from reading the research, I like my T levels 600+ and my E2 20-30. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 How old are you? The thing about T is that one level may work for one person, while not another. Hence, my Uro told me that he treats " symptoms " and not numbers. ________________________________ From: " victorinocks@... " <victorinocks@...> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 6:39:31 PM Subject: penile sensitivity Hi again, I am attemtping to post this question for a second time. I dont know if my first one was received. I recall reading recently on this discussion that low T can lack of penile sensitivity. In other words to quote " for those with T, a blow job can feel as exciting as a hand shake " . I guess to further expand on this, among the symptoms of low T and hypo such as ED and low libido does it also contribute to lack of pleasurable sensations to the penis. I have noticed since my orchiectomy about a year ago I have lost some sensation. In essence, it is difficult to become aroused and once aroused, difficult to maintain an erection to complete intercourse. Is this typical? My urologist has tested my T and is 330. He says that is okay. I disagree and am seeing an endo this Friday. From what I have read I need a much higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Hi, I am 52.  A few others have replied and said my T is low. I am glad to be seeing an endo this week.  I can only say I feel different in my drive and sensations. I felt better right after my surgery last year. As time goes on my desire and sensation has diminished. I have been using cialis but if I dont feel the drive it doesnt work. The last time I was able to complete intercourse was in September. It is miserable. From: Hayden <chris.hayden@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 2:52 PM How old are you? The thing about T is that one level may work for one person, while not another. Hence, my Uro told me that he treats " symptoms " and not numbers. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " victorinocks@ verizon.net " <victorinocks@ verizon.net> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 6:39:31 PM Subject: penile sensitivity Hi again, I am attemtping to post this question for a second time. I dont know if my first one was received. I recall reading recently on this discussion that low T can lack of penile sensitivity. In other words to quote " for those with T, a blow job can feel as exciting as a hand shake " . I guess to further expand on this, among the symptoms of low T and hypo such as ED and low libido does it also contribute to lack of pleasurable sensations to the penis. I have noticed since my orchiectomy about a year ago I have lost some sensation. In essence, it is difficult to become aroused and once aroused, difficult to maintain an erection to complete intercourse. Is this typical? My urologist has tested my T and is 330. He says that is okay. I disagree and am seeing an endo this Friday. From what I have read I need a much higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:01:45 -0000, you wrote: >Low T can cause low sex drive. T will help with sex drive but not ED. You may get help at first but that will be tempoary. It depends on the T levels and also the E2 levels. High or low E2 can lead to ED issues. Balancing T and E2 can make a really big difference in ED - depending on the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 thanks, I hope my endo has an open mind and will be able to help me. I think my biggest mistake is not seeing one several years ago. >Low T can cause low sex drive. T will help with sex drive but not ED. You may get help at first but that will be tempoary. It depends on the T levels and also the E2 levels. High or low E2 can lead to ED issues. Balancing T and E2 can make a really big difference in ED - depending on the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 , Actually the E2 increase is more specifically in response to aromatase, which is the basis for the name of the drug that mitigates it, Arimidex. Stating E2 is a response to T dosing is an over generalization, but I understood where you were coming from. Stating that someone needs a specific level, such as 500, has no fundamental basis and as most of us that are enlightened realize that leveling is very much an individual realization. We all know that T:E2 ratios of 30:1 are soft targets and that it is how you feel that dictates leveling. The absence of morning wood is an indicator that you drove your E2 too low. However, specific values will differ from person to person. I had terrific erections and lots of spooge at a T of 242 by using tribulus terresteris (Tribuplex 750) in fact better than with my current T level at 900. Sometimes people have other issues that may cause sensitivity to falter. This is probably why Dr. Chrisler has his patients take a 24 hour urine to test for metabolites and other values in addition to hormones. Heavy metal toxicity could be a cause. It could be as little as still having mercury fillings that off gas all day long and bind to " iron " that could be his problem. Many possibilities. Tom U. > You'r endo is off the wall. You need a 500 level to get morning > erections and anything approaching a healthy sex life.....SNIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:30:32 -0000, you wrote: >, > >Actually the E2 increase is more specifically in response to aromatase, which is the basis for the name of the drug that mitigates it, Arimidex. Stating E2 is a response to T dosing is an over generalization, but I understood where you were coming from. Mostly when T doses are high, more T will " spill over " or be converted to E2. Also I believe when T is very low, low E2 can result as there's not enough T to feed in to the aromatase conversion process. >Stating that someone needs a specific level, such as 500, has no fundamental basis and as most of us that are enlightened realize that leveling is very much an individual realization. True but there is some research saying 500 seems a threshold for morning wood. SOme one here directed me to that. I had the experience personally too. They cut my T dose after a series of accidental double doses. My total T fell to 400 and I lost morning wood. >We all know that T:E2 ratios of 30:1 are soft targets and that it is how you feel that dictates leveling. A number of us have come to believe E2 ratios are a poor measure. It's absolute E2 measures that are more useful. Staying in the 20 to 35 range is crucial in my belief. Regardless of T level. > The absence of morning wood is an indicator that you drove your E2 too low. Can be. It's also effect from High E2, or low T. >However, specific values will differ from person to person. > >I had terrific erections and lots of spooge at a T of 242 by using tribulus terresteris (Tribuplex 750) in fact better than with my current T level at 900. > >Sometimes people have other issues that may cause sensitivity to falter. Absolutely. This fellows total T though was if remember right - at 8. Or was that someone else? That's a killer. >This is probably why Dr. Chrisler has his patients take a 24 hour urine to test for metabolites and other values in addition to hormones. Heavy metal toxicity could be a cause. It could be as little as still having mercury fillings that off gas all day long and bind to " iron " that could be his problem. Many possibilities. > >Tom U. > > > > >> You'r endo is off the wall. You need a 500 level to get morning >> erections and anything approaching a healthy sex life.....SNIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Morning, thats interesting. I remember when I was in a relationship, and we had sex it took a long time before I could.... I didn't have the feelings of love and stuff or even that strong sexual attraction. But when she did BJ's, it still took a while. I am hoping it was because I didn't find her attractive in the way I should have or purely psychological due to how I perceive myself down there. I have been steadily doing P.E. and I think it is showing some. I finally changed my attitude around, now I do it religiously no matter what per day. If anyone wants info on the exercises, I can help. Later From: Hayden <chris.hayden@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 2:52 PM How old are you? The thing about T is that one level may work for one person, while not another. Hence, my Uro told me that he treats " symptoms " and not numbers. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " victorinocks@ verizon.net " <victorinocks@ verizon.net> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 6:39:31 PM Subject: penile sensitivity Hi again, I am attemtping to post this question for a second time. I dont know if my first one was received. I recall reading recently on this discussion that low T can lack of penile sensitivity. In other words to quote " for those with T, a blow job can feel as exciting as a hand shake " . I guess to further expand on this, among the symptoms of low T and hypo such as ED and low libido does it also contribute to lack of pleasurable sensations to the penis. I have noticed since my orchiectomy about a year ago I have lost some sensation. In essence, it is difficult to become aroused and once aroused, difficult to maintain an erection to complete intercourse. Is this typical? My urologist has tested my T and is 330. He says that is okay. I disagree and am seeing an endo this Friday. From what I have read I need a much higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 > If anyone wants info on the exercises, I can help.> What exercises are you doing? There are numerous penile exercise programs available, but most are just ones wanting to sell something, so I'd be interested in what you are doing, how long you've been doing them and how long did it take to see beneficial results. Lee > > I have been steadily doing P.E. and I think it is showing some. I finally changed my attitude around, now I do it religiously no matter what per day. If anyone wants info on the exercises, I can help. Later > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Morning, not a problem Lee. I have done my research on what would have a higher percentage at working. With manual PE you must be patient. That is the first rule. Second rule I would say is, you must change your attitude around so you can do them religiously. out of a month, I have missed only two days. One due to sleeping after classes because the night before I stayed up late to study, and second was due to a sleep study over night. No matter what, I do them. For my personal routine I typically take 45 mins to a hour. 35 till 44 mins stretching and 10- 15 mins Jelqing, although I am not sold on Jelqing yet I do them still. I am sold on stretching. I have seen improvements within a good month I have been doing them. I have taken videos of PE from various sites that have been proven to work and burned them onto a DVD. For there I studied what exercises I felt I could do and benefit from and how to do them properly. You can email me privately for more info at uu1845@.... Ill respond later or over the weekend. It takes about a month or two to see some kind of improvement and much longer for more improvements but they work. I don't do them for ED, just to improve upon an area being primary lessen. From: Lee <hdbtwnurlegs2001@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 10:08 PM > If anyone wants info on the exercises, I can help.> What exercises are you doing? There are numerous penile exercise programs available, but most are just ones wanting to sell something, so I'd be interested in what you are doing, how long you've been doing them and how long did it take to see beneficial results. Lee > > I have been steadily doing P.E. and I think it is showing some. I finally changed my attitude around, now I do it religiously no matter what per day. If anyone wants info on the exercises, I can help. Later > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 U U, Thanks for your response. The reason for me asking is I've tried pumping and Jelqing (both manual and with the Power Jelq device), and didn't realize any significant benefit. I may not have stayed with the jelqing long enough or did the stretching exercises as you describe, so the fault is probably mine. I've even tried a couple of the PE pills sold on the 'net too, without any benefit (which, of course, I should have known). The only thing that has produced any benefit for me is Cialis; my girth feels like it is about 1/4 inch greater whenever I use C; don't get the same result with either V or L. Maybe I'll get out the Power Jelq device and try that again daily for lengthy exercises as you suggest and see what happens after a month or two. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Hey Lee, one of the things that revolved in my research of PE was YOU HAVE TO DO THEM REGULARLY< PROPERLY AND <RELIGIOUSLY! I have been doing them for a month now, only missing two days in between. I took the routines mainly from mattersofsize.com, which are more extreme. DLD has many exercises, some work but the ones that focus on my testes I don't do because it would be a waste of time.  I cannot afford a device, I tried to make a home made one with proper research, but that didn't work out so well... If you can afford one, great. But it must be an add on to manual exerises. Same with pills and Calis. You have to put in at least 45 - 1 hour A DAY religiously to this. I known about this since 06, but I could not put my mind around the fact, I could do something about it. So I suffered more, now I do see improvements in both length, blood flow, and possible width. I am now at 6.0-6.1depending on which ruler I use from 5.5. Email me if you want. From: Lee <hdbtwnurlegs2001@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 10:27 PM U U, Thanks for your response. The reason for me asking is I've tried pumping and Jelqing (both manual and with the Power Jelq device), and didn't realize any significant benefit. I may not have stayed with the jelqing long enough or did the stretching exercises as you describe, so the fault is probably mine. I've even tried a couple of the PE pills sold on the 'net too, without any benefit (which, of course, I should have known). The only thing that has produced any benefit for me is Cialis; my girth feels like it is about 1/4 inch greater whenever I use C; don't get the same result with either V or L. Maybe I'll get out the Power Jelq device and try that again daily for lengthy exercises as you suggest and see what happens after a month or two. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 UU1845 Why would you state having issues with the size of your penis before if 6inches? - thats bang on average so don't understand where the issues would come from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hey, before I started PE, it was 5.5. I have lived a life of hating that part of me due to hypogandism and I finally did something about it because I didnt want to suffer any longer. Only while doing PE religiously did I do something about it. I am not doing it because I want to impress some chick.... I am doing this because I want a better life and this is the root of all my problems in life I had to discover through therapy. I am being open because I know I am not alone. I understand your frustration but I have been through too much for it to be targeted at me if you are frustrated at my prior email. I am not trying to reach any direct size, just to continue because that was the biggest hurdle in my life; doing something about it. Later From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 6:44 PM UU1845 Why would you state having issues with the size of your penis before if 6inches? - thats bang on average so don't understand where the issues would come from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 uu1845 I'm not bothered by what you are claiming but 5.5 inches is not really any different from being 6 inches - ok half an inch you might say but who cares. Besides 5.5 inches is still in average range of 5-7 inches anyway. I have always been sceptical about these type of exercises - I'm sure you might be able to increase length by hanging a weight off your penis or similar methods but this then damages the base of the penis and impotence becomes far more likely if you do not suffer from this already. Having 5.5 inches and being able to use it is far better then having even a limp 9 inches. Also I do not believe for one second such exercises can improve girth as it goes against common sense - only way to increase phallus size is more human tissue (GH, testosterone & androgen receptors all play a part at puberty) down there or more bloodflow but bloodflow is obviously restricted to how much the phallus can 'fill up'. Anyone claiming girth can be increased by exercises is either deluded or trying to make cash from the deluded. The reason men have better erections on Cialis/Viagra is because the blood vessels in the penis are more dilated hence more bloodflow in the penis which holds better and not drained from the penis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I am on your side. There is a lot of BS out there. In 03, I brought a 300 dollar electric pump because I was sadden over this. I am not advertising anything! Yea, it does look pretty much the same, but if half an inch in a month is progress, I will not stop now. So yea, a little improvement helps. I am only 31, and luckily I don't need Calis yet. With T and this, I have notice more " morning wood " and a stronger erection. This is a journey I had to take. I will continue. There is a lot of crap out there much like early 20th century addiction " cures " like using gold or using more alcohol to " cure " alcohol. I don't what further to say. Sorry I brought it up. I figured, I wasn't the only dude with this life issue. I would like to openly discuss these topics, not about sexuality, but about how being hypogandism also effects other aspects of ones life. I don't really care much of the " 9 inch " milestone. Thats a lot of years doing this regularly. I will stop once I AM HAPPY and not some woman or what I think she would prefer. I would not be with such a woman who would chose size over the importance of a committed relationship. I give women more credit to not negatively judge; rather embrace and enjoy all of a man. If you want to talk further I am here Chris. From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 6:46 PM uu1845 I'm not bothered by what you are claiming but 5.5 inches is not really any different from being 6 inches - ok half an inch you might say but who cares. Besides 5.5 inches is still in average range of 5-7 inches anyway. I have always been sceptical about these type of exercises - I'm sure you might be able to increase length by hanging a weight off your penis or similar methods but this then damages the base of the penis and impotence becomes far more likely if you do not suffer from this already. Having 5.5 inches and being able to use it is far better then having even a limp 9 inches.. Also I do not believe for one second such exercises can improve girth as it goes against common sense - only way to increase phallus size is more human tissue (GH, testosterone & androgen receptors all play a part at puberty) down there or more bloodflow but bloodflow is obviously restricted to how much the phallus can 'fill up'. Anyone claiming girth can be increased by exercises is either deluded or trying to make cash from the deluded. The reason men have better erections on Cialis/Viagra is because the blood vessels in the penis are more dilated hence more bloodflow in the penis which holds better and not drained from the penis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 uu1845 I'm glad things appear to be working for you - only point I was making was that any extra length gained in the penis is through stretching it out from its natural position inside the body. Therefore jeapordising erectile function. This is exactly what happens when guys get surgery to extend the penis albeit with a good surgen and a moderate extension of say 1/2 inch then erectile function may remain the same. You say " I don't really care much of the " 9 inch " milestone. Thats a lot of years doing this regularly " Let me reassure you that you will never get a 9 inch penis from doing any exercise! The only way this is remotely possible would be surgery to take out all of the part of the penis that is within the inside of the body - if thats is medically possible and even if it was I'm sure you would have a penis that would not function. My advice would be to be happy with what you have now and focus on being as healthy as you can - this includes mentally...this is not possible IMO if you are practicing obsessive rituals to try and increase the size of your penis - the mind becomes preoccupied with this and you lose focus for more important things in life. Just my opinion of course - everyone's free to do what they want at the end of the day. Besides that TRT MAY have given you marginal increase in size depending on how long you have been on it not the exercises Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hey I respect your opinion, and I am working on being an overall improved person. Once again, I do PE because of me and not silly expectations. If it works great, and if not its not a life taker like I thought for many years of my life. Its easier said than done to change a pattern of behavior. I understand where you are coming from but if I can do something about it, I will. Its a chore to continue this for an hour each day, but I find a way. Yesterday I was tired from school, and around 12 AM, I did it for an hour. Tired and all, but I did it. Sorry if you cannot understand. I am not going to explain again. From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 7:49 PM uu1845 I'm glad things appear to be working for you - only point I was making was that any extra length gained in the penis is through stretching it out from its natural position inside the body. Therefore jeapordising erectile function. This is exactly what happens when guys get surgery to extend the penis albeit with a good surgen and a moderate extension of say 1/2 inch then erectile function may remain the same. You say " I don't really care much of the " 9 inch " milestone. Thats a lot of years doing this regularly " Let me reassure you that you will never get a 9 inch penis from doing any exercise! The only way this is remotely possible would be surgery to take out all of the part of the penis that is within the inside of the body - if thats is medically possible and even if it was I'm sure you would have a penis that would not function. My advice would be to be happy with what you have now and focus on being as healthy as you can - this includes mentally...this is not possible IMO if you are practicing obsessive rituals to try and increase the size of your penis - the mind becomes preoccupied with this and you lose focus for more important things in life. Just my opinion of course - everyone's free to do what they want at the end of the day. Besides that TRT MAY have given you marginal increase in size depending on how long you have been on it not the exercises Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 UU1845 Just ignore other peoples advice about PE. It works. I have not been a hardcore PE particpate.......but over the last few years I have increased the size of my cock significantly. If you want a bigger cock.......go for it. Just ignore the negative input you are receiving...it does work. You can send me an email at ibhindshot@... if you want to discuss it further. From: uu1845@... Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:17:08 -0700 Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Hey I respect your opinion, and I am working on being an overall improved person. Once again, I do PE because of me and not silly expectations. If it works great, and if not its not a life taker like I thought for many years of my life. Its easier said than done to change a pattern of behavior. I understand where you are coming from but if I can do something about it, I will. Its a chore to continue this for an hour each day, but I find a way. Yesterday I was tired from school, and around 12 AM, I did it for an hour. Tired and all, but I did it. Sorry if you cannot understand. I am not going to explain again. From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...> Subject: Re: penile sensitivity Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 7:49 PM uu1845 I'm glad things appear to be working for you - only point I was making was that any extra length gained in the penis is through stretching it out from its natural position inside the body. Therefore jeapordising erectile function. This is exactly what happens when guys get surgery to extend the penis albeit with a good surgen and a moderate extension of say 1/2 inch then erectile function may remain the same. You say " I don't really care much of the " 9 inch " milestone. Thats a lot of years doing this regularly " Let me reassure you that you will never get a 9 inch penis from doing any exercise! The only way this is remotely possible would be surgery to take out all of the part of the penis that is within the inside of the body - if thats is medically possible and even if it was I'm sure you would have a penis that would not function. My advice would be to be happy with what you have now and focus on being as healthy as you can - this includes mentally...this is not possible IMO if you are practicing obsessive rituals to try and increase the size of your penis - the mind becomes preoccupied with this and you lose focus for more important things in life. Just my opinion of course - everyone's free to do what they want at the end of the day. Besides that TRT MAY have given you marginal increase in size depending on how long you have been on it not the exercises Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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