Re: Can you no longer buy needles without a script?

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jahost1942 wrote:

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> I was able to purchase needles from Vitality Medical without a script

> about 1 1/2 years ago. Their site now says you need a prescription. Is

> that true everywhere in the USA? " "

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Also try

(http://www.gpzservices.com/items/products/needle-only/list.htm )

(http://www.gpzservices.com/items/products/syringe-with-needle/list.htm )

http://www.gpzservices.com/items/products/syringe-only/list.htm

JRSmedical.com sells BD 1 mL Tuberculin syringes

(http://www.jrsmedical.com/SYRINGES_ONLY/BND309602/product.aspx ), in

case you prefer syringes that make small volumes easier to measure.

~Xian

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I buy my needles from Wal-Mart without a script, why order them and pay shipping

charges, surely you have a Wal-Mart store near you? I use 1 ml 27G1/2 inch

needles

and they work fine for thy's. Unless you have a lot of fat on your thy you might

want

to go to an inch needle. Little slow on the draw but who is in a hurry?

Roy

 

From: jahost1942 <jahost@...>

Subject: Can you no longer buy needles without a script?

Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 7:22 PM

I was able to purchase needles from Vitality Medical without a script

about 1 1/2 years ago. Their site now says you need a prescription. Is

that true everywhere in the USA? " "

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I would assume they are behind the pharmacy counter?

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From: Roy <rsimmons085@...>

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:02:54 PM

Subject: Re: Can you no longer buy needles without a script?

I buy my needles from Wal-Mart without a script, why order them and pay shipping

charges, surely you have a Wal-Mart store near you? I use 1 ml 27G1/2 inch

needles

and they work fine for thy's. Unless you have a lot of fat on your thy you might

want

to go to an inch needle. Little slow on the draw but who is in a hurry?

Roy

 

From: jahost1942 <jahostmchsi (DOT) com>

Subject: Can you no longer buy needles without a script?

Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 7:22 PM

I was able to purchase needles from Vitality Medical without a script

about 1 1/2 years ago. Their site now says you need a prescription. Is

that true everywhere in the USA? " "

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I remember when I tried shots, I didn't like them and they hurt when I did them

myself. There was a shame and stigma when I went with a script for the needles

at a pharmacy. Ppl think you are using them for elicit activities. Dump the

needles and go for the gel. If your insurance cannot pay for it find an online

dealer.

From: jahost1942 <jahostmchsi (DOT) com>

Subject: Can you no longer buy needles without a script?

Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 7:22 PM

I was able to purchase needles from Vitality Medical without a script

about 1 1/2 years ago. Their site now says you need a prescription. Is

that true everywhere in the USA? " "

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

U U wrote:

> I remember when I tried shots, I didn't like them and they hurt when I did

them myself.

Depends on the size of the needle. Many doctors prescribe unnecessarily

large needles. I use 27 G for testosterone (larger for drawing in the

T) and 30 G for HCG. Since I'm going to be getting needles without a

script, I'll make some adjustments if I can find over the counter ones

that are close in size. 30 G 1/2 inch looks doable in the insulin sizes.

> There was a shame and stigma when I went with a script for the needles at a

pharmacy.

Who said? How so? I never had that problem and insist on exactly what

I wanted. I've never had anyone ask me why I needed or wanted something

except the pharmacist in order the get the right product.

> Ppl think you are using them for elicit activities.

I don't care what people think and I doubt that they think that at all.

> Dump the needles and go for the gel.

The gel is a daily affair. Needles are once a week. Gels apply some

limit to sexual activity while needles do not. Gels are much more

easily converted to estradiol while injections are a lot less so.

> If your insurance cannot pay for it find an online dealer.

Not hardly possible. Have you looked for patches/gels on line? I've

never seen it. I've seen injectables but usually one has to do a

western union wire and jump through hoops. Injectables run a few

dollars a month. Patches/gels can run as high as $200/month.

For those of us who don't care what people think and couldn't give a

rat's A@ & anyway, injection are the way to go. I spent 30 minutes with

a pharmacist the other day going over exactly what brand of HCG I was

looking for and why, what supplies I would need it he could only get a

single 10,000 IU injection application of HCG, and was completely

oblivious to anyone who was listening. I want what I want and I'm

going to get it.

I'm the kind of guy that will go into a store and pick up feminine

supplies for my wife and stroll back to the counter and pay for them

like I was buying bread or milk. What people think is not my problem,

it's their problem - they need to grow up.

--

Steve - dudescholar4@...

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

" If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

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I am also the type of guy, not a shame to seek out woman related products

publicly. In NYC, we have kind of a drug problem where yes, needles are seen in

a stigma. Of course after the pharmacists better understands why I needed the

needles it became  easier.

I had the Visiting Nurses, show me how to give myself a shot, but it still was

painful, when I did it in my rear. Painful in the needle entering through the

skin and then in the muscle. I tried different needles then, but it also became

a problem in taking too much T out of the dose.

Sure its easy to do weekly or biweekly and cheap. But every persons body reacts

differently. If you have issues with needles, its not for you. If your insurance

can only cover it, my advice having someone local do it for you. Thats a hassle

as well.

I was referring to finding needles online and not the gel.

If you live in a smaller community, where your neighbors are not going to

stigmatize you  if they  see you are  buying needles, great. If you have to go

to a larger  Pharma, where  your  business is that of others,  then  you will be

seen more or less,  as a deviant. I'm talking about big retail Pharmacy's.

Buying needles online is an easier process now a days. Buying the  doses is as

well.

If you find it troubling to do it in the store, search online.

Not everyone takes HCG as well. I am primary, therefore, it will do me no good.

I feel OK, my new Endo is aware of my high Estrogen of the past and future, and

is willing after the blood results to find a valid solution other than DIM, to

treat it.

Once again, look for different routes to simply buy your needles. You can try a

different Pharma call them up, or try online. You can buy needles without a

script online. But any doctor should be able to give you a valid script for

needles.

Try not to bite so hard next time Steve.....Not that serious.

[Guest guest]

U U wrote:

> I am also the type of guy, not a shame to seek out woman related products

publicly. In NYC, we have kind of a drug problem where yes, needles are seen in

a stigma. Of course after the pharmacists better understands why I needed the

needles it became easier.

>

> I had the Visiting Nurses, show me how to give myself a shot, but it still was

painful, when I did it in my rear. Painful in the needle entering through the

skin and then in the muscle. I tried different needles then, but it also became

a problem in taking too much T out of the dose.

I've always done injections on the top of my thigh. No problems with

that. Trying to give my self a shot in the rear is way too much trouble

and most like would require longer needles.

> Sure its easy to do weekly or biweekly and cheap. But every persons body

reacts differently. If you have issues with needles, its not for you. If your

insurance can only cover it, my advice having someone local do it for you. Thats

a hassle as well.

>

> I was referring to finding needles online and not the gel.

>

> If you live in a smaller community, where your neighbors are not going to

stigmatize you if they see you are buying needles, great. If you have to go

to a larger Pharma, where your business is that of others, then you will be

seen more or less, as a deviant. I'm talking about big retail Pharmacy's.

The last time I bought needles was like 4 years ago. I filled all my

scripts since the doctor had refills on them so I got several years

worth. However, when I went to pick up my scripts, they were in " bags "

and unavailable for any person to view unless I took them out of the bag

to check. I've never carried boxes of syringes or needles out of the

store that weren't in bags - it's easer to carry that way anyway.

Still, I'm not concerned with anyone seeing me buy needles. But for

those people who are concerned, the internet is a wonderful place to

order, even if getting their scripts filled by regularly pharmacies who

mail those items.

> Buying needles online is an easier process now a days. Buying the doses is as

well.

> If you find it troubling to do it in the store, search online.

>

> Not everyone takes HCG as well. I am primary, therefore, it will do me no

good. I feel OK, my new Endo is aware of my high Estrogen of the past and

future, and is willing after the blood results to find a valid solution other

than DIM, to treat it.

I think the jury is still out on the HCG doing or not doing good. My

theory is that there are LH receptors elsewhere in the body and that LH

is suppressed by testosterone replacement leaving those receptors

unstimulated, ever. Taking HCG mimics LH and stimulates those

receptors, wherever they might be. Science hasn't discovered all these

kinds of receptors sites so until they do, which I don't think likely in

a very long time, I'm going to be taking HCG on some kind of regular

basis. I'm not going to argue with my doctor over if I'm primary or

secondary. My point to him was that this reversed and/or stopped

testicular shrinkage which satisfied him as a rational reason to request

the HCG. I also suppled him with publications on allthingsmail.com

about this. I see a D.O., not an endo, who would most likely argue with

me over my requirements.

> Once again, look for different routes to simply buy your needles. You can try

a different Pharma call them up, or try online. You can buy needles without a

script online. But any doctor should be able to give you a valid script for

needles.

My problem is that I overwhelm my doctor on prescriptions. I'm on many

meds and have cardio related meds prescribed by my cardio and all other

meds prescribed by my general doctor. I could go to several doctors and

get each of them to write several scrips each, but I like to stick with

one doctor. I have a tendency to buy a lot of stuff internationally and

my current doctor also understands that. He wrote 5 scripts on my last

visit but I forgot about the needles issue. It wasn't pressing since I

have several months still on hand of what I'm using and almost 200

syringe/needle combinations I can use but they are slightly different

from what I've been using (fixed needles).

> Try not to bite so hard next time Steve.....Not that serious.

I tend to be more " frank " and to the point online. I'm a member of more

that 50 lists and work them quickly. Being fully tactful takes too much

time but I try to find a balance.

--

Steve - dudescholar4@...

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

" If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

[Guest guest]

Yes they are behind the pharmacy counter!

From: jahost1942 <jahostmchsi (DOT) com>

Subject: Can you no longer buy needles without a script?

Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 7:22 PM

I was able to purchase needles from Vitality Medical without a script

about 1 1/2 years ago. Their site now says you need a prescription. Is

that true everywhere in the USA? " "

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

What size syringe did you use when you did shots? I tried gel, did ok at first

then they

went flat. Give me the shots anytime.

From: jahost1942 <jahostmchsi (DOT) com>

Subject: Can you no longer buy needles without a script?

Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 7:22 PM

I was able to purchase needles from Vitality Medical without a script

about 1 1/2 years ago. Their site now says you need a prescription. Is

that true everywhere in the USA? " "

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Heck no. I dumped the gel after 5 years and went for the needles. The

gel quit working and I much prefer the injections. " "

>

>

>

> From: jahost1942 <jahostmchsi (DOT) com>

>

> Subject: Can you no longer buy needles without a

script?

>

>

>

> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 7:22 PM

>

>

>

> I was able to purchase needles from Vitality Medical without a

script

>

> about 1 1/2 years ago. Their site now says you need a prescription.

Is

>

> that true everywhere in the USA? " "

>

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[Guest guest]

The last time I gave the pharmacy 2 scripts. One for 18G with

syringes and one for 25G without. They must have called the doctor or

something because they just gave me 21G with syringes, Thats

all. " "

> > I remember when I tried shots, I didn't like them and they hurt

when I did them myself.

>

> Depends on the size of the needle. Many doctors prescribe

unnecessarily

> large needles. I use 27 G for testosterone (larger for drawing in

the

> T) and 30 G for HCG. Since I'm going to be getting needles without

a

> script, I'll make some adjustments if I can find over the counter

ones

> that are close in size. 30 G 1/2 inch looks doable in the insulin

sizes.

>

> > There was a shame and stigma when I went with a script for the

needles at a pharmacy.

>

> Who said? How so? I never had that problem and insist on exactly

what

> I wanted. I've never had anyone ask me why I needed or wanted

something

> except the pharmacist in order the get the right product.

>

> > Ppl think you are using them for elicit activities.

>

> I don't care what people think and I doubt that they think that at

all.

>

> > Dump the needles and go for the gel.

>

> The gel is a daily affair. Needles are once a week. Gels apply

some

> limit to sexual activity while needles do not. Gels are much more

> easily converted to estradiol while injections are a lot less so.

>

> > If your insurance cannot pay for it find an online dealer.

>

> Not hardly possible. Have you looked for patches/gels on line?

I've

> never seen it. I've seen injectables but usually one has to do a

> western union wire and jump through hoops. Injectables run a few

> dollars a month. Patches/gels can run as high as $200/month.

>

> For those of us who don't care what people think and couldn't give

a

> rat's A@ & anyway, injection are the way to go. I spent 30 minutes

with

> a pharmacist the other day going over exactly what brand of HCG I

was

> looking for and why, what supplies I would need it he could only

get a

> single 10,000 IU injection application of HCG, and was completely

> oblivious to anyone who was listening. I want what I want and I'm

> going to get it.

>

> I'm the kind of guy that will go into a store and pick up feminine

> supplies for my wife and stroll back to the counter and pay for

them

> like I was buying bread or milk. What people think is not my

problem,

> it's their problem - they need to grow up.

>

> --

>

> Steve - dudescholar4@...

>

> Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

> http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

>

> " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

> to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

>

[Guest guest]

,

Did you explain to the pharmacy the point of switching needles, using

the larger one to draw T & the smaller one to inject? Perhaps they

were out of stock, or perhaps they simply didn't understand the point.

~Xian

> > > I remember when I tried shots, I didn't like them and they hurt

> when I did them myself.

> >

> > Depends on the size of the needle. Many doctors prescribe

> unnecessarily

> > large needles. I use 27 G for testosterone (larger for drawing in

> the

> > T) and 30 G for HCG. Since I'm going to be getting needles without

> a

> > script, I'll make some adjustments if I can find over the counter

> ones

> > that are close in size. 30 G 1/2 inch looks doable in the insulin

> sizes.

> >

> > > There was a shame and stigma when I went with a script for the

> needles at a pharmacy.

> >

> > Who said? How so? I never had that problem and insist on exactly

> what

> > I wanted. I've never had anyone ask me why I needed or wanted

> something

> > except the pharmacist in order the get the right product.

> >

> > > Ppl think you are using them for elicit activities.

> >

> > I don't care what people think and I doubt that they think that at

> all.

> >

> > > Dump the needles and go for the gel.

> >

> > The gel is a daily affair. Needles are once a week. Gels apply

> some

> > limit to sexual activity while needles do not. Gels are much more

> > easily converted to estradiol while injections are a lot less so.

> >

> > > If your insurance cannot pay for it find an online dealer.

> >

> > Not hardly possible. Have you looked for patches/gels on line?

> I've

> > never seen it. I've seen injectables but usually one has to do a

> > western union wire and jump through hoops. Injectables run a few

> > dollars a month. Patches/gels can run as high as $200/month.

> >

> > For those of us who don't care what people think and couldn't give

> a

> > rat's A@ & anyway, injection are the way to go. I spent 30 minutes

> with

> > a pharmacist the other day going over exactly what brand of HCG I

> was

> > looking for and why, what supplies I would need it he could only

> get a

> > single 10,000 IU injection application of HCG, and was completely

> > oblivious to anyone who was listening. I want what I want and I'm

> > going to get it.

> >

> > I'm the kind of guy that will go into a store and pick up feminine

> > supplies for my wife and stroll back to the counter and pay for

> them

> > like I was buying bread or milk. What people think is not my

> problem,

> > it's their problem - they need to grow up.

> >

> > --

> >

> > Steve - dudescholar4@

> >

> > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

> > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

> >

> > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

> > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Regarding getting needles, I live in NJ and you have to have a script to get

needles of any kind so I have my doctor prescribe me a box of 100 20guage

and box 100 25guage taking them once a week this last me almost two years at

a time. You can send your script mail order if you don't want to go to the

pharmacy, I send mine to Medco and it comes shipped UPS in a brown box. No

stigma no embarrassment not that it bothers me to go to a pharmacy and get

them I just don't like the inconvenience of having to go back each month.

What would you do if you where a diabetic? Many people take their meds.. by

injection you should never feel embarrassed/uncomfortable taking care of

your health!

I think many of us have had to overcome the " stigma " of taking a steroid

such as testosterone. I shriek every time I read an article regarding

someone who is abusing this medication and how the media demonizes it. They

never follow up on the legitimate use and how it improves so many peoples

lives. For about the first year I was on this medication My wife was scared

(because of all of this disinformation) that I was going to become some

roid-head and hurt people, since then she only speeks about how it saved me

and our mariage and how I'm a much (calmer) person now.

My point is we all have to rise above all of this in order to become healthy

again. I found this forum to be the best place for me during the first

couple of years so I didn't feel alone in all of this and was able to push

away the stigmas and fight for my health. God knows after having swithed out

five doctors in the first two years inorder to find somone who would WORK

WITH ME, I and I'm sure many hear can testify witnesed many doctors who make

you feel uncomfortable about our conditions.

I have been at this for little over three years now and have tried patches

and jells but found injection to be the better choice for me. Everyone is

different so to say one method is the best would not be a true statement.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:14 AM, d00fu524 <calvin1564@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Did you explain to the pharmacy the point of switching needles, using

> the larger one to draw T & the smaller one to inject? Perhaps they

> were out of stock, or perhaps they simply didn't understand the point.

>

> ~Xian

>

>

>

> > > > I remember when I tried shots, I didn't like them and they hurt

> > when I did them myself.

> > >

> > > Depends on the size of the needle. Many doctors prescribe

> > unnecessarily

> > > large needles. I use 27 G for testosterone (larger for drawing in

> > the

> > > T) and 30 G for HCG. Since I'm going to be getting needles without

> > a

> > > script, I'll make some adjustments if I can find over the counter

> > ones

> > > that are close in size. 30 G 1/2 inch looks doable in the insulin

> > sizes.

> > >

> > > > There was a shame and stigma when I went with a script for the

> > needles at a pharmacy.

> > >

> > > Who said? How so? I never had that problem and insist on exactly

> > what

> > > I wanted. I've never had anyone ask me why I needed or wanted

> > something

> > > except the pharmacist in order the get the right product.

> > >

> > > > Ppl think you are using them for elicit activities.

> > >

> > > I don't care what people think and I doubt that they think that at

> > all.

> > >

> > > > Dump the needles and go for the gel.

> > >

> > > The gel is a daily affair. Needles are once a week. Gels apply

> > some

> > > limit to sexual activity while needles do not. Gels are much more

> > > easily converted to estradiol while injections are a lot less so.

> > >

> > > > If your insurance cannot pay for it find an online dealer.

> > >

> > > Not hardly possible. Have you looked for patches/gels on line?

> > I've

> > > never seen it. I've seen injectables but usually one has to do a

> > > western union wire and jump through hoops. Injectables run a few

> > > dollars a month. Patches/gels can run as high as $200/month.

> > >

> > > For those of us who don't care what people think and couldn't give

> > a

> > > rat's A@ & anyway, injection are the way to go. I spent 30 minutes

> > with

> > > a pharmacist the other day going over exactly what brand of HCG I

> > was

> > > looking for and why, what supplies I would need it he could only

> > get a

> > > single 10,000 IU injection application of HCG, and was completely

> > > oblivious to anyone who was listening. I want what I want and I'm

> > > going to get it.

> > >

> > > I'm the kind of guy that will go into a store and pick up feminine

> > > supplies for my wife and stroll back to the counter and pay for

> > them

> > > like I was buying bread or milk. What people think is not my

> > problem,

> > > it's their problem - they need to grow up.

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > > Steve - dudescholar4@

> > >

> > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

> > > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

> > >

> > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

> > > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Heck no. I dumped the gel after 5 years and went for the needles. The

> gel quit working and I much prefer the injections. " "

Hi,

I don't think that anybody who's tried weekly injections would go back

to gels unless they have a fear of needles... not that it really

hurts... even a bad shot ain't that bad... but I understand some

people just really get freaked out at the idea of a shot... even a

doctor/nurse giving them a shot... but if you can just sit and do it

steady the affects are so much better you'd never go back.

ttyl

Andy

[Guest guest]

I am not the one who was embarassed. That was someone else. Anyhow, I

still had a refill on the needles so I got the 25G this time. I asked

the pharmacist if I really needed a script and he said no. Only if

you are getting insurance coverage for them. I think it varies by

state. I live in Iowa. " "

> > > > > I remember when I tried shots, I didn't like them and they

hurt

> > > when I did them myself.

> > > >

> > > > Depends on the size of the needle. Many doctors prescribe

> > > unnecessarily

> > > > large needles. I use 27 G for testosterone (larger for

drawing in

> > > the

> > > > T) and 30 G for HCG. Since I'm going to be getting needles

without

> > > a

> > > > script, I'll make some adjustments if I can find over the

counter

> > > ones

> > > > that are close in size. 30 G 1/2 inch looks doable in the

insulin

> > > sizes.

> > > >

> > > > > There was a shame and stigma when I went with a script for

the

> > > needles at a pharmacy.

> > > >

> > > > Who said? How so? I never had that problem and insist on

exactly

> > > what

> > > > I wanted. I've never had anyone ask me why I needed or wanted

> > > something

> > > > except the pharmacist in order the get the right product.

> > > >

> > > > > Ppl think you are using them for elicit activities.

> > > >

> > > > I don't care what people think and I doubt that they think

that at

> > > all.

> > > >

> > > > > Dump the needles and go for the gel.

> > > >

> > > > The gel is a daily affair. Needles are once a week. Gels apply

> > > some

> > > > limit to sexual activity while needles do not. Gels are much

more

> > > > easily converted to estradiol while injections are a lot less

so.

> > > >

> > > > > If your insurance cannot pay for it find an online dealer.

> > > >

> > > > Not hardly possible. Have you looked for patches/gels on line?

> > > I've

> > > > never seen it. I've seen injectables but usually one has to

do a

> > > > western union wire and jump through hoops. Injectables run a

few

> > > > dollars a month. Patches/gels can run as high as $200/month.

> > > >

> > > > For those of us who don't care what people think and couldn't

give

> > > a

> > > > rat's A@ & anyway, injection are the way to go. I spent 30

minutes

> > > with

> > > > a pharmacist the other day going over exactly what brand of

HCG I

> > > was

> > > > looking for and why, what supplies I would need it he could

only

> > > get a

> > > > single 10,000 IU injection application of HCG, and was

completely

> > > > oblivious to anyone who was listening. I want what I want and

I'm

> > > > going to get it.

> > > >

> > > > I'm the kind of guy that will go into a store and pick up

feminine

> > > > supplies for my wife and stroll back to the counter and pay

for

> > > them

> > > > like I was buying bread or milk. What people think is not my

> > > problem,

> > > > it's their problem - they need to grow up.

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > >

> > > > Steve - dudescholar4@

> > > >

> > > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

> > > > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

> > > >

> > > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

> > > > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I use a 20g to fill and the 25g by 1 inch to inject into my thigh, it takes

a couple of second to inject but I feel no pain. Its crazy in NJ you need a

script for everything.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:58 PM, jahost1942 <jahost@...> wrote:

> I am not the one who was embarassed. That was someone else. Anyhow, I

> still had a refill on the needles so I got the 25G this time. I asked

> the pharmacist if I really needed a script and he said no. Only if

> you are getting insurance coverage for them. I think it varies by

> state. I live in Iowa. " "

>

>

> > > > > > I remember when I tried shots, I didn't like them and they

> hurt

> > > > when I did them myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > Depends on the size of the needle. Many doctors prescribe

> > > > unnecessarily

> > > > > large needles. I use 27 G for testosterone (larger for

> drawing in

> > > > the

> > > > > T) and 30 G for HCG. Since I'm going to be getting needles

> without

> > > > a

> > > > > script, I'll make some adjustments if I can find over the

> counter

> > > > ones

> > > > > that are close in size. 30 G 1/2 inch looks doable in the

> insulin

> > > > sizes.

> > > > >

> > > > > > There was a shame and stigma when I went with a script for

> the

> > > > needles at a pharmacy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Who said? How so? I never had that problem and insist on

> exactly

> > > > what

> > > > > I wanted. I've never had anyone ask me why I needed or wanted

> > > > something

> > > > > except the pharmacist in order the get the right product.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ppl think you are using them for elicit activities.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't care what people think and I doubt that they think

> that at

> > > > all.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dump the needles and go for the gel.

> > > > >

> > > > > The gel is a daily affair. Needles are once a week. Gels apply

> > > > some

> > > > > limit to sexual activity while needles do not. Gels are much

> more

> > > > > easily converted to estradiol while injections are a lot less

> so.

> > > > >

> > > > > > If your insurance cannot pay for it find an online dealer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not hardly possible. Have you looked for patches/gels on line?

> > > > I've

> > > > > never seen it. I've seen injectables but usually one has to

> do a

> > > > > western union wire and jump through hoops. Injectables run a

> few

> > > > > dollars a month. Patches/gels can run as high as $200/month.

> > > > >

> > > > > For those of us who don't care what people think and couldn't

> give

> > > > a

> > > > > rat's A@ & anyway, injection are the way to go. I spent 30

> minutes

> > > > with

> > > > > a pharmacist the other day going over exactly what brand of

> HCG I

> > > > was

> > > > > looking for and why, what supplies I would need it he could

> only

> > > > get a

> > > > > single 10,000 IU injection application of HCG, and was

> completely

> > > > > oblivious to anyone who was listening. I want what I want and

> I'm

> > > > > going to get it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm the kind of guy that will go into a store and pick up

> feminine

> > > > > supplies for my wife and stroll back to the counter and pay

> for

> > > > them

> > > > > like I was buying bread or milk. What people think is not my

> > > > problem,

> > > > > it's their problem - they need to grow up.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > >

> > > > > Steve - dudescholar4@

> > > > >

> > > > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

> > > > > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

> > > > >

> > > > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

> > > > > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >