Re: How can I temporarily lower my Human Growth Hormone Level?

[Guest guest]

First, did your doctor test Human Growth Hormone/hGH itself or

Insulin-like Growth Factor 1/IGF-1? The two are related but do not

have a 1:1 relationship. Taking measures to lower hGH can lower IGF-1

by extension, but there are also ways of decreasing IGF-1 production

without directly affecting hGH. For instance, since IGF-1 is produced

by the liver, factors that affect the liver's functionality/activity

might positively or negatively affect IGF-1.

Alcohol consumption decreases/negates the effectiveness of injectable

hGH, as well as negating the effects of endogenous hGH. Does that

mean it decreases hGH/IGF-1? Not sure, but it does elevate

estrogen/prevent estrogen metabolism, & when estrogen is higher than

optimal, it interferes with hGH's/IGF-1's effects.

The first 4 hours of sleep are considered the prime " window " for hGH

release. Getting insufficient sleep will decrease hGH. Decreasing

sleep will also decrease testosterone. Testosterone (both exogenous &

endogenous) plays a role in IGF-1 production. Are you on testosterone

replacement therapy?

3 or 4 nights of decreased sleep will almost certainly decrease

testosterone (as I've found via lab tests), but I'm not sure how long

it would take to change IGF-1/hGH levels.

Might want to order lab tests for yourself & see (privatemdlabs.com

has both IGF-1 & human Growth Hormone tests).

As far as diet goes, restricting carbohydrates, increasing protein

intake, & fasting can increase growth hormone production.

Conversely, increased blood glucose levels & increased free fatty

acids in the blood will decrease growth hormone production.

If you happen to use anti-anxiety medications, note that some of them

can increase hGH. My prescription for Clonidine also happens to

elevate hGH. (Very interesting, as Dr. Thierry Hertoghe in Europe has

noted that his use of hGH relieved him of much anxiety. **I doubt

Clonidine's calming effect is achieved primarily through raising hGH,

but it may help from both angles**) If you can do without anxiety

controlling meds (that has demonstrated hGH increasing effects) for a

while, give it some consideration.

Other articles related to your question:

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin-like_growth_factor_1 )

Hope you can get what you need.

~Xian

>

> My Human Growth Hormone level has been going steadily downward; I am

> now in the bottom 10% of the normal range. My endocrinologist says that

> he can only justify writing a prescription if my level dips below the

> normal range. He is going to draw blood on Friday, February 6, 2009, at

> 9:00 am. I want my HGH to test below the normal range so that he will

> prescribe some for me. Is there anything else I can do in order to

> lower my HGH over the short-term? I have stopped taking L-arginine and

> L-glutamine in preparation for the lab work. The latter two amino acids

> are supposed to stimulate the production of HGH. I have also stopped

> taking DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone).

>

> HGH increases one's feeling of well-being. I ordered some online and

> tried it, and it works: I felt much better. But the cost ordering

> online from England is quite high: $160 for seven syringes at 0.2 mg

> each. It can be purchased in larger quantities in the USA, and the

> patient can tap off a small quantity each day.

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions for temporarily lowering the HGH level?

>

[Guest guest]

Firstly, thank you for your detailed response.

My endocrinologist tested for IGF-1; so the percentile I quoted (in

the bottom 10%) is for IGF-1.

I am on testosterone replacement therapy; I apply 5 grams of a gel

once daily. According to your information, I could reduce the amount

of gel that I apply and thereby lower the IGF-1 production. I can't

cut out the testosterone application totally since my testosterone

levels will also be checked.

I could try getting minimal sleep in the few days remaining before

blood is drawn. I don't have time before the labs are done to have

independent labs done.

According to your information, I can also increase carbohydrate

consumption and decrease protein consumption before blood is drawn.

I don't use anti-anxiety medication.

Bottom Line: cut testosterone gel application, decrease sleep,

decrease protein, and increase carbohydrate consumption, before blood

is drawn.

Thanks again, I'll give it a try.

> >

> > My Human Growth Hormone level has been going steadily downward; I

am

> > now in the bottom 10% of the normal range. My endocrinologist

says that

> > he can only justify writing a prescription if my level dips below

the

> > normal range. He is going to draw blood on Friday, February 6,

2009, at

> > 9:00 am. I want my HGH to test below the normal range so that he

will

> > prescribe some for me. Is there anything else I can do in order

to

> > lower my HGH over the short-term? I have stopped taking L-

arginine and

> > L-glutamine in preparation for the lab work. The latter two amino

acids

> > are supposed to stimulate the production of HGH. I have also

stopped

> > taking DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone).

> >

> > HGH increases one's feeling of well-being. I ordered some online

and

> > tried it, and it works: I felt much better. But the cost ordering

> > online from England is quite high: $160 for seven syringes at 0.2

mg

> > each. It can be purchased in larger quantities in the USA, and

the

> > patient can tap off a small quantity each day.

> >

> > Does anyone have any suggestions for temporarily lowering the HGH

level?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Glad it helped.

For more studies, check here: (http://www.drragno.com/id23.html )

Various studies for individual findings related to IGF-1 are posted at

the bottom.

~Xian

> >

> > First, did your doctor test Human Growth Hormone/hGH itself or

> > Insulin-like Growth Factor 1/IGF-1? The two are related but do not

> > have a 1:1 relationship. Taking measures to lower hGH can lower

> IGF-1

> > by extension, but there are also ways of decreasing IGF-1 production

> > without directly affecting hGH. For instance, since IGF-1 is

> produced

> > by the liver, factors that affect the liver's functionality/activity

> > might positively or negatively affect IGF-1.

> >

> > Alcohol consumption decreases/negates the effectiveness of

> injectable

> > hGH, as well as negating the effects of endogenous hGH. Does that

> > mean it decreases hGH/IGF-1? Not sure, but it does elevate

> > estrogen/prevent estrogen metabolism, & when estrogen is higher than

> > optimal, it interferes with hGH's/IGF-1's effects.

> >

> > The first 4 hours of sleep are considered the prime " window " for hGH

> > release. Getting insufficient sleep will decrease hGH. Decreasing

> > sleep will also decrease testosterone. Testosterone (both

> exogenous &

> > endogenous) plays a role in IGF-1 production. Are you on

> testosterone

> > replacement therapy?

> >

> > 3 or 4 nights of decreased sleep will almost certainly decrease

> > testosterone (as I've found via lab tests), but I'm not sure how

> long

> > it would take to change IGF-1/hGH levels.

> > Might want to order lab tests for yourself & see (privatemdlabs.com

> > has both IGF-1 & human Growth Hormone tests).

> >

> > As far as diet goes, restricting carbohydrates, increasing protein

> > intake, & fasting can increase growth hormone production.

> > Conversely, increased blood glucose levels & increased free fatty

> > acids in the blood will decrease growth hormone production.

> >

> > If you happen to use anti-anxiety medications, note that some of

> them

> > can increase hGH. My prescription for Clonidine also happens to

> > elevate hGH. (Very interesting, as Dr. Thierry Hertoghe in Europe

> has

> > noted that his use of hGH relieved him of much anxiety. **I doubt

> > Clonidine's calming effect is achieved primarily through raising

> hGH,

> > but it may help from both angles**) If you can do without anxiety

> > controlling meds (that has demonstrated hGH increasing effects) for

> a

> > while, give it some consideration.

> >

> > Other articles related to your question:

> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin-like_growth_factor_1 )

> >

> > Hope you can get what you need.

> > ~Xian

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the follow-up. I checked out the Dr. Ragno link; I'll try

some of the recommendations after the lab work is done.

Bill

> > >

> > > First, did your doctor test Human Growth Hormone/hGH itself or

> > > Insulin-like Growth Factor 1/IGF-1? The two are related but do

not

> > > have a 1:1 relationship. Taking measures to lower hGH can

lower

> > IGF-1

> > > by extension, but there are also ways of decreasing IGF-1

production

> > > without directly affecting hGH. For instance, since IGF-1 is

> > produced

> > > by the liver, factors that affect the liver's

functionality/activity

> > > might positively or negatively affect IGF-1.

> > >

> > > Alcohol consumption decreases/negates the effectiveness of

> > injectable

> > > hGH, as well as negating the effects of endogenous hGH. Does

that

> > > mean it decreases hGH/IGF-1? Not sure, but it does elevate

> > > estrogen/prevent estrogen metabolism, & when estrogen is higher

than

> > > optimal, it interferes with hGH's/IGF-1's effects.

> > >

> > > The first 4 hours of sleep are considered the prime " window "

for hGH

> > > release. Getting insufficient sleep will decrease hGH.

Decreasing

> > > sleep will also decrease testosterone. Testosterone (both

> > exogenous &

> > > endogenous) plays a role in IGF-1 production. Are you on

> > testosterone

> > > replacement therapy?

> > >

> > > 3 or 4 nights of decreased sleep will almost certainly decrease

> > > testosterone (as I've found via lab tests), but I'm not sure

how

> > long

> > > it would take to change IGF-1/hGH levels.

> > > Might want to order lab tests for yourself & see

(privatemdlabs.com

> > > has both IGF-1 & human Growth Hormone tests).

> > >

> > > As far as diet goes, restricting carbohydrates, increasing

protein

> > > intake, & fasting can increase growth hormone production.

> > > Conversely, increased blood glucose levels & increased free

fatty

> > > acids in the blood will decrease growth hormone production.

> > >

> > > If you happen to use anti-anxiety medications, note that some

of

> > them

> > > can increase hGH. My prescription for Clonidine also happens to

> > > elevate hGH. (Very interesting, as Dr. Thierry Hertoghe in

Europe

> > has

> > > noted that his use of hGH relieved him of much anxiety. **I

doubt

> > > Clonidine's calming effect is achieved primarily through

raising

> > hGH,

> > > but it may help from both angles**) If you can do without

anxiety

> > > controlling meds (that has demonstrated hGH increasing effects)

for

> > a

> > > while, give it some consideration.

> > >

> > > Other articles related to your question:

> > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin-like_growth_factor_1 )

> > >

> > > Hope you can get what you need.

> > > ~Xian

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill,

Another thought came up- you might easily get sick reducing your

sleep. The presence of acute illness is another factor that can

decrease IGF-1, & if your doctor notices that you're ill, he will

probably interpret the decreased IGF-1 in light of the illness.

If you can't get hGH the affordable way, consider an anti-aging doctor.

Some more reading on IGF-1 relative to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome &

Fibromyalgia:

(http://www.worldhealth.net/news/the_role_of_growth_hormone_deficiency_in

)

~Xian

> > > >

> > > > First, did your doctor test Human Growth Hormone/hGH itself or

> > > > Insulin-like Growth Factor 1/IGF-1? The two are related but do

> not

> > > > have a 1:1 relationship. Taking measures to lower hGH can

> lower

> > > IGF-1

> > > > by extension, but there are also ways of decreasing IGF-1

> production

> > > > without directly affecting hGH. For instance, since IGF-1 is

> > > produced

> > > > by the liver, factors that affect the liver's

> functionality/activity

> > > > might positively or negatively affect IGF-1.

> > > >

> > > > Alcohol consumption decreases/negates the effectiveness of

> > > injectable

> > > > hGH, as well as negating the effects of endogenous hGH. Does

> that

> > > > mean it decreases hGH/IGF-1? Not sure, but it does elevate

> > > > estrogen/prevent estrogen metabolism, & when estrogen is higher

> than

> > > > optimal, it interferes with hGH's/IGF-1's effects.

> > > >

> > > > The first 4 hours of sleep are considered the prime " window "

> for hGH

> > > > release. Getting insufficient sleep will decrease hGH.

> Decreasing

> > > > sleep will also decrease testosterone. Testosterone (both

> > > exogenous &

> > > > endogenous) plays a role in IGF-1 production. Are you on

> > > testosterone

> > > > replacement therapy?

> > > >

> > > > 3 or 4 nights of decreased sleep will almost certainly decrease

> > > > testosterone (as I've found via lab tests), but I'm not sure

> how

> > > long

> > > > it would take to change IGF-1/hGH levels.

> > > > Might want to order lab tests for yourself & see

> (privatemdlabs.com

> > > > has both IGF-1 & human Growth Hormone tests).

> > > >

> > > > As far as diet goes, restricting carbohydrates, increasing

> protein

> > > > intake, & fasting can increase growth hormone production.

> > > > Conversely, increased blood glucose levels & increased free

> fatty

> > > > acids in the blood will decrease growth hormone production.

> > > >

> > > > If you happen to use anti-anxiety medications, note that some

> of

> > > them

> > > > can increase hGH. My prescription for Clonidine also happens to

> > > > elevate hGH. (Very interesting, as Dr. Thierry Hertoghe in

> Europe

> > > has

> > > > noted that his use of hGH relieved him of much anxiety. **I

> doubt

> > > > Clonidine's calming effect is achieved primarily through

> raising

> > > hGH,

> > > > but it may help from both angles**) If you can do without

> anxiety

> > > > controlling meds (that has demonstrated hGH increasing effects)

> for

> > > a

> > > > while, give it some consideration.

> > > >

> > > > Other articles related to your question:

> > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin-like_growth_factor_1 )

> > > >

> > > > Hope you can get what you need.

> > > > ~Xian

> > > >

> >

>