Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Hi Heidi, The new symptoms you're mentioning sound more like symptoms of hypothyroidism although some symptoms, like depression, can occur in both hyperT and hypoT. A TSH of 0.16 is low, but TSH is generally suppressed to levels less than 0.1 in hyperthyroidism. If you have an autoimmune thyroid condition you could have moved from subclinical hyperthyroidism to hypothyroidism. Take care, Elaine Please visit my web site at http://daisyelaine_co.tripod.com/gravesdisease/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 HI, I'm sure you will get lots of responses and good information from this group. They've been a great help to me. I can identify with your symptoms... I had all of those... including the " mentally, I thought I was going crazy " . It was a great relief to me to be diagnosed with Graves disease. It wasn't my mind!!! My endocrinologist and I opted for the block/replace treatment rather than RAI. He said statistically most women become hypo later in life so I thought why destroy the thyroid, I'll just wait for age to do it<G>. We did the block and replace for about three years. My dr began to think that I was not a good candidate for block/replace because each time we stopped, my thyroid would fire up again and go hyper...until spring of 2000. When I weaned off the medication, every thing remained normal. I was able to be without medication for over a year. But this year my thyroid now tests hypo so I now take a small amount (.o5 mg once a day) of synthroid. It took over 4 years of treatment but the past two years have been such an improvement. This morning I walked three miles. And I have my life back. I sleep at night and am awake during the day.<G>.... My biggest complaint right now is trying to get rid of the weight (about 40 lbs) that I gained while I was a " blob " ...with no energy or desire to move for months when my thyroid was so suppressed...and when my back ached and my legs hurt.... but I am very hopeful. Good luck with your tests and treatment. Fran New and have questions >Greetings everyone. Guess I need someone to talk to and some >feedback. > >I'm waiting for my doctor to order a 3rd TSH test. My initial >reading in February 2002 was TSH .16. Question - is that >significantly low? I can't seem to find answers about the test. > >I initially had the blood test as part of a routine exam, as well as >some symptoms that I thought could indicate diabetes. > >My symptoms at the time were achey/tingling sensations in my legs, >heat intolerance, heart palpitations, sleeplessness and anxiety. > > >At that time I was under a tremendous amount of stress with my son >(5) who was hositalized with Kawasaki Disease, and my twins were 10 >months old. In addition to the stress, I also had my period, was not >eating properly and was exhausted. I attributed those things to >having a low TSH level (I did some reading about hyperthyroidism at >that time). I retested again in April and my level came up to .20. I >felt fine and did not follow-up as requested by the doctor. Also, at >that time I did not have health insurance, nor was I convinced that >my hyperthyroid was a lasting condition and dreaded the tought of >having my endochronology controlled by meds. > >Over the past two months I have been extemely depressed. I took >inventory of how I felt physically, and concluded it was my thyroid >acting up again. This time, though I had itching, depression, lack >of concentration and a horse throat. Mentally, I thought I was going >crazy. > >Has anyone expereienced similar symptoms and have they come and >gone? What is your condition now? > >Sorry for the long-winded message. Guess I need some support and a >clue of what will happen if my tests show that this is infact my >thyroid. > >Many thanks for your answers. > >Heidi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Dear Frances, Thank you for your response. I guess you answered my main fear - that is going from hyper to hypo. I've always been 20 lbs. overweight, and the endo drugs don't sound too promising. A co- worker of my mother has hyper and she was treated with Armour, said that she had many complications with synthroid. Any feedback? I really wish my doctor would get back to me. I'm less anxious and depressed today - but it's early - everything goes downhill after about 1:00 pm. And, my period is 2 weeks away and I have a feeling I'll be a basket case again. I'm going to keep this forum on my screen . . . Again, many thanks for sharing your story and support. Best, Heidi > HI, I'm sure you will get lots of responses and good information from this > group. They've been a great help to me. I can identify with your > symptoms... I had all of those... including the " mentally, I thought I was > going crazy " . It was a great relief to me to be diagnosed with Graves > disease. It wasn't my mind!!! My endocrinologist and I opted for the > block/replace treatment rather than RAI. He said statistically most women > become hypo later in life so I thought why destroy the thyroid, I'll just > wait for age to do it<G>. We did the block and replace for about three > years. My dr began to think that I was not a good candidate for > block/replace because each time we stopped, my thyroid would fire up again > and go hyper...until spring of 2000. When I weaned off the medication, > every thing remained normal. I was able to be without medication for over a > year. But this year my thyroid now tests hypo so I now take a small amount > (.o5 mg once a day) of synthroid. It took over 4 years of treatment but the > past two years have been such an improvement. This morning I walked three > miles. And I have my life back. I sleep at night and am awake during the > day.<G>.... My biggest complaint right now is trying to get rid of the > weight (about 40 lbs) that I gained while I was a " blob " ...with no energy or > desire to move for months when my thyroid was so suppressed...and when my > back ached and my legs hurt.... but I am very hopeful. > Good luck with your tests and treatment. > Fran > > New and have questions > > > >Greetings everyone. Guess I need someone to talk to and some > >feedback. > > > >I'm waiting for my doctor to order a 3rd TSH test. My initial > >reading in February 2002 was TSH .16. Question - is that > >significantly low? I can't seem to find answers about the test. > > > >I initially had the blood test as part of a routine exam, as well as > >some symptoms that I thought could indicate diabetes. > > > >My symptoms at the time were achey/tingling sensations in my legs, > >heat intolerance, heart palpitations, sleeplessness and anxiety. > > > > > >At that time I was under a tremendous amount of stress with my son > >(5) who was hositalized with Kawasaki Disease, and my twins were 10 > >months old. In addition to the stress, I also had my period, was not > >eating properly and was exhausted. I attributed those things to > >having a low TSH level (I did some reading about hyperthyroidism at > >that time). I retested again in April and my level came up to .20. I > >felt fine and did not follow-up as requested by the doctor. Also, at > >that time I did not have health insurance, nor was I convinced that > >my hyperthyroid was a lasting condition and dreaded the tought of > >having my endochronology controlled by meds. > > > >Over the past two months I have been extemely depressed. I took > >inventory of how I felt physically, and concluded it was my thyroid > >acting up again. This time, though I had itching, depression, lack > >of concentration and a horse throat. Mentally, I thought I was going > >crazy. > > > >Has anyone expereienced similar symptoms and have they come and > >gone? What is your condition now? > > > >Sorry for the long-winded message. Guess I need some support and a > >clue of what will happen if my tests show that this is infact my > >thyroid. > > > >Many thanks for your answers. > > > >Heidi > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Dear Frances, Thank you for your response. I guess you answered my main fear - that is going from hyper to hypo. I've always been 20 lbs. overweight, and the endo drugs don't sound too promising. A co- worker of my mother has hyper and she was treated with Armour, said that she had many complications with synthroid. Any feedback? I really wish my doctor would get back to me. I'm less anxious and depressed today - but it's early - everything goes downhill after about 1:00 pm. And, my period is 2 weeks away and I have a feeling I'll be a basket case again. I'm going to keep this forum on my screen . . . Again, many thanks for sharing your story and support. Best, Heidi > HI, I'm sure you will get lots of responses and good information from this > group. They've been a great help to me. I can identify with your > symptoms... I had all of those... including the " mentally, I thought I was > going crazy " . It was a great relief to me to be diagnosed with Graves > disease. It wasn't my mind!!! My endocrinologist and I opted for the > block/replace treatment rather than RAI. He said statistically most women > become hypo later in life so I thought why destroy the thyroid, I'll just > wait for age to do it<G>. We did the block and replace for about three > years. My dr began to think that I was not a good candidate for > block/replace because each time we stopped, my thyroid would fire up again > and go hyper...until spring of 2000. When I weaned off the medication, > every thing remained normal. I was able to be without medication for over a > year. But this year my thyroid now tests hypo so I now take a small amount > (.o5 mg once a day) of synthroid. It took over 4 years of treatment but the > past two years have been such an improvement. This morning I walked three > miles. And I have my life back. I sleep at night and am awake during the > day.<G>.... My biggest complaint right now is trying to get rid of the > weight (about 40 lbs) that I gained while I was a " blob " ...with no energy or > desire to move for months when my thyroid was so suppressed...and when my > back ached and my legs hurt.... but I am very hopeful. > Good luck with your tests and treatment. > Fran > > New and have questions > > > >Greetings everyone. Guess I need someone to talk to and some > >feedback. > > > >I'm waiting for my doctor to order a 3rd TSH test. My initial > >reading in February 2002 was TSH .16. Question - is that > >significantly low? I can't seem to find answers about the test. > > > >I initially had the blood test as part of a routine exam, as well as > >some symptoms that I thought could indicate diabetes. > > > >My symptoms at the time were achey/tingling sensations in my legs, > >heat intolerance, heart palpitations, sleeplessness and anxiety. > > > > > >At that time I was under a tremendous amount of stress with my son > >(5) who was hositalized with Kawasaki Disease, and my twins were 10 > >months old. In addition to the stress, I also had my period, was not > >eating properly and was exhausted. I attributed those things to > >having a low TSH level (I did some reading about hyperthyroidism at > >that time). I retested again in April and my level came up to .20. I > >felt fine and did not follow-up as requested by the doctor. Also, at > >that time I did not have health insurance, nor was I convinced that > >my hyperthyroid was a lasting condition and dreaded the tought of > >having my endochronology controlled by meds. > > > >Over the past two months I have been extemely depressed. I took > >inventory of how I felt physically, and concluded it was my thyroid > >acting up again. This time, though I had itching, depression, lack > >of concentration and a horse throat. Mentally, I thought I was going > >crazy. > > > >Has anyone expereienced similar symptoms and have they come and > >gone? What is your condition now? > > > >Sorry for the long-winded message. Guess I need some support and a > >clue of what will happen if my tests show that this is infact my > >thyroid. > > > >Many thanks for your answers. > > > >Heidi > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 I think normal is between .4 and 4. mine was .004 this last time and lower than that the first time! New and have questions Greetings everyone. Guess I need someone to talk to and some feedback.I'm waiting for my doctor to order a 3rd TSH test. My initial reading in February 2002 was TSH .16. Question - is that significantly low? I can't seem to find answers about the test. I initially had the blood test as part of a routine exam, as well as some symptoms that I thought could indicate diabetes. My symptoms at the time were achey/tingling sensations in my legs, heat intolerance, heart palpitations, sleeplessness and anxiety.At that time I was under a tremendous amount of stress with my son (5) who was hositalized with Kawasaki Disease, and my twins were 10 months old. In addition to the stress, I also had my period, was not eating properly and was exhausted. I attributed those things to having a low TSH level (I did some reading about hyperthyroidism at that time). I retested again in April and my level came up to .20. I felt fine and did not follow-up as requested by the doctor. Also, at that time I did not have health insurance, nor was I convinced that my hyperthyroid was a lasting condition and dreaded the tought of having my endochronology controlled by meds.Over the past two months I have been extemely depressed. I took inventory of how I felt physically, and concluded it was my thyroid acting up again. This time, though I had itching, depression, lack of concentration and a horse throat. Mentally, I thought I was going crazy.Has anyone expereienced similar symptoms and have they come and gone? What is your condition now? Sorry for the long-winded message. Guess I need some support and a clue of what will happen if my tests show that this is infact my thyroid.Many thanks for your answers.Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 you are hyper and 20lb over weight? The reason I ask is because that it my story as well and when they first said hyperthyroidism I thought they were nuts because I would be THIN not 20lbs overweight? Ideally I should weigh 115-120 (at 5'1") and I weight 135-140 on most days - have not gained weight or lost weight at this point. New and have questions> > > >Greetings everyone. Guess I need someone to talk to and some> >feedback.> >> >I'm waiting for my doctor to order a 3rd TSH test. My initial> >reading in February 2002 was TSH .16. Question - is that> >significantly low? I can't seem to find answers about the test.> >> >I initially had the blood test as part of a routine exam, as well as> >some symptoms that I thought could indicate diabetes.> >> >My symptoms at the time were achey/tingling sensations in my legs,> >heat intolerance, heart palpitations, sleeplessness and anxiety.> >> >> >At that time I was under a tremendous amount of stress with my son> >(5) who was hositalized with Kawasaki Disease, and my twins were 10> >months old. In addition to the stress, I also had my period, was not> >eating properly and was exhausted. I attributed those things to> >having a low TSH level (I did some reading about hyperthyroidism at> >that time). I retested again in April and my level came up to .20. I> >felt fine and did not follow-up as requested by the doctor. Also, at> >that time I did not have health insurance, nor was I convinced that> >my hyperthyroid was a lasting condition and dreaded the tought of> >having my endochronology controlled by meds.> >> >Over the past two months I have been extemely depressed. I took> >inventory of how I felt physically, and concluded it was my thyroid> >acting up again. This time, though I had itching, depression, lack> >of concentration and a horse throat. Mentally, I thought I was going> >crazy.> >> >Has anyone expereienced similar symptoms and have they come and> >gone? What is your condition now?> >> >Sorry for the long-winded message. Guess I need some support and a> >clue of what will happen if my tests show that this is infact my> >thyroid.> >> >Many thanks for your answers.> >> >Heidi> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2002 Report Share Posted September 22, 2002 In a message dated 9/22/02 12:14:54 AM Central Daylight Time, dybuckley@... writes: Subj:Re: Re: New and have questions Date:9/22/02 12:14:54 AM Central Daylight Time From:dybuckley@... Reply-to:hyperthyroidism To:hyperthyroidism Sent from the Internet you are hyper and 20lb over weight? The reason I ask is because that it my story as well and when they first said hyperthyroidism I thought they were nuts because I would be THIN not 20lbs overweight? Ideally I should weigh 115-120 (at 5'1") and I weight 135-140 on most days - have not gained weight or lost weight at this point. I've done the same thing...I went from 114 to 150 ( If you find anyway to lose weight holler..Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2002 Report Share Posted September 23, 2002 Dyanne, I've always been overweight - - - and I laughed when the doctor told me I was hyper and asked shouldn't I be thin? Her reply was (and it seems to make sense to me) not necessarily because although my metabolism is working overtime, so is my appetite. I suppose that if I snacked on just healthly food, I could drop the weight, but I'm not that disciplined. Although I really need to address the weight issue, too. I'm 5'3 " and 150 pds. - I look and feel my best at around 135. > > HI, I'm sure you will get lots of responses and good information > from this > > group. They've been a great help to me. I can identify with your > > symptoms... I had all of those... including the " mentally, I > thought I was > > going crazy " . It was a great relief to me to be diagnosed with > Graves > > disease. It wasn't my mind!!! My endocrinologist and I opted for > the > > block/replace treatment rather than RAI. He said statistically > most women > > become hypo later in life so I thought why destroy the thyroid, > I'll just > > wait for age to do it<G>. We did the block and replace for about > three > > years. My dr began to think that I was not a good candidate for > > block/replace because each time we stopped, my thyroid would fire > up again > > and go hyper...until spring of 2000. When I weaned off the > medication, > > every thing remained normal. I was able to be without medication > for over a > > year. But this year my thyroid now tests hypo so I now take a > small amount > > (.o5 mg once a day) of synthroid. It took over 4 years of > treatment but the > > past two years have been such an improvement. This morning I > walked three > > miles. And I have my life back. I sleep at night and am awake > during the > > day.<G>.... My biggest complaint right now is trying to get rid of > the > > weight (about 40 lbs) that I gained while I was a " blob " ...with no > energy or > > desire to move for months when my thyroid was so suppressed...and > when my > > back ached and my legs hurt.... but I am very hopeful. > > Good luck with your tests and treatment. > > Fran > > > > New and have questions > > > > > > >Greetings everyone. Guess I need someone to talk to and some > > >feedback. > > > > > >I'm waiting for my doctor to order a 3rd TSH test. My initial > > >reading in February 2002 was TSH .16. Question - is that > > >significantly low? I can't seem to find answers about the test. > > > > > >I initially had the blood test as part of a routine exam, as well > as > > >some symptoms that I thought could indicate diabetes. > > > > > >My symptoms at the time were achey/tingling sensations in my legs, > > >heat intolerance, heart palpitations, sleeplessness and anxiety. > > > > > > > > >At that time I was under a tremendous amount of stress with my son > > >(5) who was hositalized with Kawasaki Disease, and my twins were 10 > > >months old. In addition to the stress, I also had my period, was > not > > >eating properly and was exhausted. I attributed those things to > > >having a low TSH level (I did some reading about hyperthyroidism at > > >that time). I retested again in April and my level came up > to .20. I > > >felt fine and did not follow-up as requested by the doctor. Also, > at > > >that time I did not have health insurance, nor was I convinced that > > >my hyperthyroid was a lasting condition and dreaded the tought of > > >having my endochronology controlled by meds. > > > > > >Over the past two months I have been extemely depressed. I took > > >inventory of how I felt physically, and concluded it was my thyroid > > >acting up again. This time, though I had itching, depression, lack > > >of concentration and a horse throat. Mentally, I thought I was > going > > >crazy. > > > > > >Has anyone expereienced similar symptoms and have they come and > > >gone? What is your condition now? > > > > > >Sorry for the long-winded message. Guess I need some support and a > > >clue of what will happen if my tests show that this is infact my > > >thyroid. > > > > > >Many thanks for your answers. > > > > > >Heidi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2002 Report Share Posted September 23, 2002 I gained 45 lbs too while hyper... Still can't lose any of it. Kate palomino03@... wrote: In a message dated 9/22/02 12:14:54 AM Central Daylight Time, dybuckley@... writes: Subj:Re: Re: New and have questions Date:9/22/02 12:14:54 AM Central Daylight Time From:dybuckley@... Reply-to:hyperthyroidism To:hyperthyroidism Sent from the Internet you are hyper and 20lb over weight? The reason I ask is because that it my story as well and when they first said hyperthyroidism I thought they were nuts because I would be THIN not 20lbs overweight? Ideally I should weigh 115-120 (at 5'1") and I weight 135-140 on most days - have not gained weight or lost weight at this point. I've done the same thing...I went from 114 to 150 ( If you find anyway to lose weight holler..Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2002 Report Share Posted September 23, 2002 did you go on PTU? did you gain weight when you started to control the hyper? IT's day 5 for me on PTU and I've gained 3 lbs, not sure it it's just water weight and it will drop off or not, trying to watch what I eat. New and have questions> > > > > > >Greetings everyone. Guess I need someone to talk to and some> > >feedback.> > >> > >I'm waiting for my doctor to order a 3rd TSH test. My initial> > >reading in February 2002 was TSH .16. Question - is that> > >significantly low? I can't seem to find answers about the test.> > >> > >I initially had the blood test as part of a routine exam, as well > as> > >some symptoms that I thought could indicate diabetes.> > >> > >My symptoms at the time were achey/tingling sensations in my legs,> > >heat intolerance, heart palpitations, sleeplessness and anxiety.> > >> > >> > >At that time I was under a tremendous amount of stress with my son> > >(5) who was hositalized with Kawasaki Disease, and my twins were 10> > >months old. In addition to the stress, I also had my period, was > not> > >eating properly and was exhausted. I attributed those things to> > >having a low TSH level (I did some reading about hyperthyroidism at> > >that time). I retested again in April and my level came up > to .20. I> > >felt fine and did not follow-up as requested by the doctor. Also, > at> > >that time I did not have health insurance, nor was I convinced that> > >my hyperthyroid was a lasting condition and dreaded the tought of> > >having my endochronology controlled by meds.> > >> > >Over the past two months I have been extemely depressed. I took> > >inventory of how I felt physically, and concluded it was my thyroid> > >acting up again. This time, though I had itching, depression, lack> > >of concentration and a horse throat. Mentally, I thought I was > going> > >crazy.> > >> > >Has anyone expereienced similar symptoms and have they come and> > >gone? What is your condition now?> > >> > >Sorry for the long-winded message. Guess I need some support and a> > >clue of what will happen if my tests show that this is infact my> > >thyroid.> > >> > >Many thanks for your answers.> > >> > >Heidi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2002 Report Share Posted September 23, 2002 Hi Dyanne, I very much doubt the PTU has had time to have any affect yet. Anti thyroid drugs ( ATDs) work by slowing down production of excess thyroid hormone. Unfortunately, only time will allow your body to use up the excess you already have. While I have seen a few people see changes in as little as 2 weeks, all the reports say it takes 4 to 8 weeks. I was VERY hyper, and I did feel changes start at the end of the third week, but it did take ME the full 8 weeks to find control. What is probably happening as far as your weight, is your body is still running full steam ahead, and is screaming for food. This is normal for right now. Plus, right now, you will be tired and not moving around as much because of the muscle loss you have . You have also realized you are ill now, and hopefully are resting and babying yourself right now. This is a good thing. Yes, this can make it a time of some weight gain, but things WILL change. Best thing for now, is skip the sugar and junk, so once you start feeling better, you will have less to loose. Easy to say, but hard to do. Sure was for me. I felt pretty darn sorry for myself back then, and Ben and Jerry made me feel much better about the entire situation. <G> BTW...I am now in remission after being on PTU. With the extra info on 's site, I made that final move to NO PILLS ! -Pam L - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Naomi! I am pretty new to this too, but I think you are right on track...in my opinion there is not much evidence that vaccines are effective, mainly because there are far too many uncontrolled variables in everything we think we know and are told about them. On the other hand there is PLENTY of evidence showing their harmful effects. Personally I think they are a hoax...and we cannot forget that they are made by very very large corporations, and whatever one thinks about that, one thing is for sure...a corporation's top priority BY LAW is responsibility to its shareholders, which means maximizing profits above ALL else. And although I am definitely not an 'expert'...as to your question about Africa...personally I think here too we have SO many uncontrolled variables we cannot possibly know whether the vaccines are responsible for decreased incidence of disease and death. As we saw on this list recently in an article where the WHO was boasting a cut in measles death rates in the developing world, the WHO itself said that vaccination was part of a five-fold comprehensive health program which included addressing malnutrition. So how could vaccines be credited with the improvements? Most importantly I think is that we do not get the whole story on these campaigns. We hear about the results through the filter...straight from the WHO press releases. plus most of the studies done on these vaccines--at least the clinical trials cited by the manufacturers and doctors--are paid for by the manufacturers themselves. good luck and congrats for not vaccinating already! christine > > Hello everyone, > > I am new to this list and I have some questions. My DS is 2 and I haven't > vaxed him at all yet. I am reading up a lot on everything and wanted to see > if some of you here could clear some things up for me. I haven't finished > everything I want to study but I wanted to take a short-cut on this one and > ask the " experts " . > > Are the Vaccines even effective? From what I can tell they are not only > harmful but ineffective. Or, if they ARE effective they just delay the > disease into adulthood when it can be much worse. > > AND - if they are NOT effective, how does that explain some churches (which > I believe are inspired) going down to Africa and vaxing large populations of > children and helping the death rate to plummet? Is it just because they're > living conditions are so much worse than ours that the risks of the vaccines > not working and the risks of their side effects are really worth it? > > Thanks everyone, in advance. I hope to glean from your wisdom while I am > here. > > -- > Naomi Mangone, AAHCC, CD(DONA) > Get Passionate about your Birth! > www.denverdoula.com > > CLASSES STARTING MARCH 7th! > www.bradleybirth.com/?M624 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Hi Naomi -- Welcome to the group. I pat you on the back for researching before deciding whether or not to vax. My kids are both partially vaxed -- it took my DS having a severe allergic reaction for me to even question vax. Truthfully I'm not sure vax doesn't do more harm than good and there's enough evidence (in my humble opinion) to question it's effectiveness. As for Africa, I believe the body is truly incredible when healthy enough to fight disease -- unfortunately malnutrition leaves a body very weak and when you add to that poor water quality and unsanitary conditions it's not surprising that their death rates are so high. I think most (if not all) of their health improvements came from the church groups making sure the people in these impoverished areas have clean water and better nutrition. Health & blessings, Our cleaners are... Safe, Powerful, GREEN and Smart! http://www.shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth http://www.CinchPlan.com/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 On 1/26/07, Naomi Mangone <denverdoula@...> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I am new to this list and I have some questions. My DS is 2 and I haven't > vaxed him at all yet. I am reading up a lot on everything and wanted to > see > if some of you here could clear some things up for me. I haven't finished > everything I want to study but I wanted to take a short-cut on this one > and > ask the " experts " . > > Are the Vaccines even effective? From what I can tell they are not only > harmful but ineffective. Or, if they ARE effective they just delay the > disease into adulthood when it can be much worse. > > AND - if they are NOT effective, how does that explain some churches > (which > I believe are inspired) going down to Africa and vaxing large populations > of > children and helping the death rate to plummet? Is it just because they're > living conditions are so much worse than ours that the risks of the > vaccines > not working and the risks of their side effects are really worth it? > > Thanks everyone, in advance. I hope to glean from your wisdom while I am > here. > > -- > Naomi Mangone, AAHCC, CD(DONA) > Get Passionate about your Birth! > www.denverdoula.com > > CLASSES STARTING MARCH 7th! > www.bradleybirth.com/?M624 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 > > Hello, > Â > I have just recently tested positive for candida. My doctor has precscibed me nystatin and diflucan I hope I spelled those right. I have not started taking them yet. I know there are foods you need to avoid until you kill the yeast inmy case I love dairy and pasta so this is extremely hard for me. My questions are: > Â > Can you take the medicine and continue to eat normal? > Or do you cut back on the foods and take the medicine? > or do you have to give all the food and take the meds? if so how long do you have to give up the foods for? > Once the yeast is gone can you began to eat these foods again? +++Hi Kay. Welcome to our group. That's good you haven't started taking nystatin or diflucan. Diflucan is extremely hard on the liver, so your doctor should have done liver function tests prior to perscribing it to see if your liver is strong enough to tolerate it. However, candida is not cured by " killing it off " - it just doesn't work that way. Candida is only cured by building up your immune system, mainly with " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements on my program). Natural antifungals are so much more effective than drugs, and they do not do the damage drugs do. Nystatin is unique since it does not get past the gut, so it is okay, but you do not start on it until later in the program. It takes 1 month of healing for every year you've been unhealthy, and for most people nowadays that is since before they were born. Sorry, but there are no quick fixes. There 2 important articles will answer your questions: 1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida 2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php For encouragement and inspiration see the Success Stories by members of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 In the spring of '07 (I was 37 years old)I went to my doc for what i would call stuborn erections. He tested my T and the results were " normal " Total T - 339 Free Percent - 1.49 Free T - 50.5 Since they were " normal " I went about my business, but after several years of continued symptoms, including now very tired in the evening and increased irritability, I have researched my results and found that i am normal for a 75 year old and the average for a guy my age is in the 600's. But after researching HRT, it does not sound so simple a solution. Daily application, other meds to counteract side affects, chance of growing boobs, shrinking testicles, and i have even read decreased penis size. Is that true!? I am lean and have good muscle tone, but i should as i eat great and work out religously. I am scheduled for another physical in a few weeks and will ask for my T levels to be tested again. Will HRT make me feel good enough to make all the possible side affects and other meds worth the trouble. I would love to have a strong libido again and think I might have forgotten what that feels like, not to mention lose the fatigue and irritability. I turn 40 soon and am worried about starting HRT as i understand it is kind of a point of no return. i have also read about a medicine called Chlomid (I think that is it) that tells your body to make T instead of HRT which replaces it. any thoughts and opinions are very welcome. thanks J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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