Re: Re: 16 year old male, problems.

September 29, 2009

Kurt can you ask your Dr. if it's OK to put his name and info into the Database

section we don't have a Dr. from Iowa. You can find the Database section on the

left side of the home page click on Physician Reference.

And if any of the other men can do ask your Dr. if you can put his name and info

in this section the more the better.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Kurt <kurtpete@...>

> Subject: Re: 16 year old male, problems.

>

> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:36 PM

> Hi Matt,

>

> I'm also in Iowa. The Dr. I go to could probably best

> described as HRT friendly, but not an absolute expert on all

> related matters. To give you an example, it was his

> initial suggestion that I have a blood test done to check T

> levels (they came back low, and he prescribed TRT). He

> is on TRT himself. Things went well until my E2 levels

> went too high. Blood tests confirmed, but it took a

> couple of visits and my insistence to prescribe Arimidex to

> control E2 (working very well, BTW).

>

> What you have going on sounds a little more complicated

> than my situation (so I'm not sure about my Dr.'s usefulness

> in your case), but if you'd like to try him, he is:

>

http://www.drscore.com/Iowa_/Internal_Medicine/search/-Bozek_10171339.htm\

l

>

> Good luck.

> -Kurt

>

> >

> > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in

> highschool and recently I had some

> > blood work done because for the past year I have been

> feeling the following symptoms:

> > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body

> temperature, frequent urination and overall

> > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The

> blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and

> just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was

> over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have

> a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I

> ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and

> little to no fats at all. All of this ended around

> September, so from June-September around four months I had

> pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite

> sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7%

> so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing

> weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the

> low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and

> muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and

> have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get

> any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will

> only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> suggestions.

> > Levels go as follow:

> > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

September 29, 2009

Thanks for the advice, where are you located and are you primary hypogonad (

starting at the testicles) or secondary (from the brain)?

That would be really nice if he could get me on some clomid or something.

________________________________

From: Kurt <kurtpete@...>

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:55:25 AM

Subject: Re: 16 year old male, problems.

Yep, I'm due for a visit in the next month or so, and I will ask him then.

-Kurt

> > >

> > > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in

> > highschool and recently I had some

> > > blood work done because for the past year I have been

> > feeling the following symptoms:

> > > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body

> > temperature, frequent urination and overall

> > > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The

> > blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> > cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> > of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and

> > just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was

> > over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have

> > a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I

> > ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and

> > little to no fats at all. All of this ended around

> > September, so from June-September around four months I had

> > pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite

> > sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7%

> > so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing

> > weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the

> > low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and

> > muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and

> > have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get

> > any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will

> > only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> > hypothalamic/ pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> > if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> > out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> > in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> > showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> > nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> > calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> > fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> > try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> > b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> > Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> > favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> > because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> > > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> > to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> > levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> > any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> > suggestions.

> > > Levels go as follow:

> > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> > was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16..0)

> > > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> > >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

September 29, 2009

Do you think he would try a Clomid run and check the levels after that, me being

secondary that might help extremely. Should I try and email his office?

________________________________

From: Kurt <kurtpete@...>

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:02:11 PM

Subject: Re: 16 year old male, problems.

I'm primary (and in the Iowa City area)... This Dr. has been mine for about 15

years (I've been on TRT for about a year). I feel fortunate that he was my Dr.

when I started noticing symptoms of low T.

What part of Iowa are you in?

> > > >

> > > > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in

> > > highschool and recently I had some

> > > > blood work done because for the past year I have been

> > > feeling the following symptoms:

> > > > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body

> > > temperature, frequent urination and overall

> > > > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The

> > > blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> > > cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> > > of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > > > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and

> > > just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was

> > > over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have

> > > a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > > > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I

> > > ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and

> > > little to no fats at all. All of this ended around

> > > September, so from June-September around four months I had

> > > pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite

> > > sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7%

> > > so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing

> > > weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the

> > > low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and

> > > muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and

> > > have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get

> > > any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will

> > > only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> > > hypothalamic/ pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> > > if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> > > out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> > > in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> > > showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> > > nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> > > calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> > > fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> > > try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> > > b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> > > Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> > > favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> > > because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> > > > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> > > to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> > > levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> > > any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> > > suggestions.

> > > > Levels go as follow:

> > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > > > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > > > LH 2.2 (1..5-9.3)

> > > > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > > > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > > > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> > > was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > > > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16..0)

> > > > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > > > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

September 29, 2009

If he does I'll call and make an appointment right away. I'm tired of being

missing out on every thing I used to be able to do. If he doesn't I'll move on I

guess.

________________________________

From: Matt Obrien <mattobrien71@...>

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:01:41 PM

Subject: Re: Re: 16 year old male, problems.

Do you think he would try a Clomid run and check the levels after that, me being

secondary that might help extremely. Should I try and email his office?

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