Re: 16 year old male, problems.

[Guest guest]

I would suggest another doctor.

Find one that specialized in blood chemistery.

All the tests show red blood cells low, along with low T.

good luck

>

> Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in highschool and recently I

had some

> blood work done because for the past year I have been feeling the following

symptoms:

> Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body temperature, frequent urination

and overall

> lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The blood work came back with

extremely low tesosterone, high cortisol, and little pituitary function. What

triggered all of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and just got done competing

at state wrestling. When that was over I decided to cut down for next year right

away to have a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> I started eating less and less, and eventually all I ate was mostly protein,

verry little carbohydrates, and little to no fats at all. All of this ended

around September, so from June-September around four months I had pretty much

developed an eating disorder from my favorite sport. Before I had my bodyfat

taken for school,I was at 7% so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I

am losing weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the low

tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and muscle loss, but I lift three

times a week at the school and have not noticed many strength losses, I just can

never get any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will only make

me worse, I have no idea how to correct this hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It

would mean so much to me if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is

running out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist in Des

Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork showing all this. I should

probably tell you that I'm not nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around

2,000 calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and fats. I even

supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to try to help it. I take a

multi-vitamin and an extra b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing

works. Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my favorite

sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me because I don't have the

energy to practice or compete...

> The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me to " wait it out " but

that's kind of hard with such low levels at such a young age. I was wondering if

anyone knows any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

suggestions.

> Levels go as follow:

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal was a low Hemoglobin

with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in highschool and recently

I had some

> > blood work done because for the past year I have been feeling the following

symptoms:

> > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body temperature, frequent

urination and overall

> > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The blood work came back with

extremely low tesosterone, high cortisol, and little pituitary function. What

triggered all of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and just got done

competing at state wrestling. When that was over I decided to cut down for next

year right away to have a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I ate was mostly protein,

verry little carbohydrates, and little to no fats at all. All of this ended

around September, so from June-September around four months I had pretty much

developed an eating disorder from my favorite sport. Before I had my bodyfat

taken for school,I was at 7% so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I

am losing weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the low

tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and muscle loss, but I lift three

times a week at the school and have not noticed many strength losses, I just can

never get any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will only make

me worse, I have no idea how to correct this hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It

would mean so much to me if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is

running out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist in Des

Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork showing all this. I should

probably tell you that I'm not nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around

2,000 calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and fats. I even

supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to try to help it. I take a

multi-vitamin and an extra b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing

works. Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my favorite

sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me because I don't have the

energy to practice or compete...

> > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me to " wait it out " but

that's kind of hard with such low levels at such a young age. I was wondering if

anyone knows any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

suggestions.

> > Levels go as follow:

> > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal was a low Hemoglobin

with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> >

>

I have tried two endocrinologists, and two general practicioners. I thought the

endocrinologists would at least try a Comiphene stimulation test to see exactly

if I could be restarted. I know it's secondary based on my low LH and FSH but

I'm not sure why they can't help.

[Guest guest]

Is your a dr moron because you have severe anemia which could be from low

testosterone, hypothyroidism, iron, b-12, folate deficiency. If you need a good

dr and willing to travel feel free to contact me hardasnails1973@... or

484-868-0916. We would look at why your levels are low and give you the proper

treatment to best suit the person. One needs to look at a complete profile in

order to pin point the reason why and then go from there.

> >

> > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in highschool and recently

I had some

> > blood work done because for the past year I have been feeling the following

symptoms:

> > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body temperature, frequent

urination and overall

> > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The blood work came back with

extremely low tesosterone, high cortisol, and little pituitary function. What

triggered all of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and just got done

competing at state wrestling. When that was over I decided to cut down for next

year right away to have a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I ate was mostly protein,

verry little carbohydrates, and little to no fats at all. All of this ended

around September, so from June-September around four months I had pretty much

developed an eating disorder from my favorite sport. Before I had my bodyfat

taken for school,I was at 7% so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I

am losing weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the low

tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and muscle loss, but I lift three

times a week at the school and have not noticed many strength losses, I just can

never get any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will only make

me worse, I have no idea how to correct this hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It

would mean so much to me if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is

running out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist in Des

Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork showing all this. I should

probably tell you that I'm not nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around

2,000 calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and fats. I even

supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to try to help it. I take a

multi-vitamin and an extra b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing

works. Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my favorite

sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me because I don't have the

energy to practice or compete...

> > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me to " wait it out " but

that's kind of hard with such low levels at such a young age. I was wondering if

anyone knows any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

suggestions.

> > Levels go as follow:

> > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal was a low Hemoglobin

with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I feel your pain I am Hypopituitary and my brain does not tell my Body to make

hormones. So I need to treat my low Testosterone, Cortisol, Thyroid, Ferritin

or Iron and Aldosternone levels.

I went 23 yrs treating just Testosterone until I figured out my Pituitary is

bad. I see a huge amount of Dr. you name it I seen them. Not one got it right

so you need to find a Dr. that is a specialist in Pituitary problems. My

pituitary is bad do to a head injury have you had a blow to the head. A lot of

foot ball players and the men coming home from the war have this problem do to

Road side bombs or a bad head injury.

You need to get an MRI on your Pituitary to rule out a tumor this is rare to be

cancer.

I did a lot of searches looking for problems do to bad diet and the pituitary.

From what I have found it not much. A cut and paste from this link.

http://adam.about.com/reports/Eating-disorders.htm

will follow at the end of this reply.

I feel you need to get an MRI see if you have a tumor or damaged pituitary. I

don't see this problem do to diet. But I am not a Dr. I feel you need to have

your Adrenals checked doing an ACTH Stim. test this will show if your Primary or

Secondary read this link.

http://adam.about.com/reports/Eating-disorders.htm

If your secondary it's your Pituitary if your primary you over stressed your

adrenals and they are not working right. You would then need to do a 4x's in a

day Cortisol saliva test to see if your rhythm is messed up. You should have

high levels in the morning falling lower by bedtime.

Best way to treat this is to take Cortef 5mgs 4 x's in a day to support your

adrenals so they can rest and heal. Here is a link to the stages of this

problem.

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%201%20.html

If you do a Saliva test compare it to the stages in the above link.

In this link are FAQ's covering all your problems and Pituitar problems are near

the bottom.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=256

I feel you need a lot more labs then you posted.

Here is what I tell men to get adding to this Total T3 and T4 for thyroid.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=7059

I also feel you can get some good input posting at Dr. M's forum. Cut and paste

this into a post at his site he is one of the best Dr.'s I know of and men fly

into see him.

http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/index.php

Post under " Hormones, Neurotransmitters, and other Intercellular Signals "

=================================

Hormonal Abnormalities

Hormonal abnormalities are common in eating disorders and include chemical

abnormalities in the thyroid, the reproductive regions, and areas related to

stress, well-being, and appetite. Many of these chemical changes are certainly a

result of malnutrition or other aspects of eating disorders, but they also may

play a role in perpetuating or even creating susceptibility to the disorders.

The primary setting of many of these abnormalities originate in a small area of

the brain called the limbic system. A specific system called

hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA) may be particularly important in

eating disorders. It originates in the following regions in the brain:

Hypothalamus. The hypothalamus is a small structure that plays a role in

controlling our behavior, such as eating, sexual behavior and sleeping, and

regulates body temperature, emotions, secretion of hormones, and movement.

Click the icon to see an image of the hypothalamus.

The pituitary gland. The pituitary gland is involved in controlling thyroid

functions, the adrenal glands, growth, and sexual maturation.

Amygdala. This small almond-shaped structure lies deep in the brain and is

associated with regulation and control of major emotional activities, including

anxiety, depression, aggression, and affection.

Click the icon to see an image of the brain-thyroid link.

Stress Hormones. The HPA systems trigger the production and release of stress

hormones called glucocorticoids, including the primary stress hormone cortisol.

Chronically elevated levels of stress chemicals have been observed in patients

with anorexia and bulimia. Cortisol is very important in marshaling systems

throughout the body (including the heart, lungs, circulation, metabolism, immune

systems, and skin) to deal quickly with any threat.

Release of Neurotransmitters. The HPA system also releases certain

neurotransmitters (chemical messengers) that regulate stress, mood, and appetite

and are being heavily investigated for a possible role in eating disorders.

Abnormalities in the activities of three of them, serotonin, norepinephrine, and

dopamine, are of particular interest. Serotonin is involved with well-being,

anxiety, and appetite (among other traits), and norepinephrine is a stress

hormone. Dopamine is involved in reward-seeking behavior. Recent research

suggests that people with anorexia have increased activity in the brain's

dopamine receptors. This overactivity may explain why people with anorexia do

not experience a sense of pleasure from food and other typical comforts.

Ghrelin. High levels of ghrelin, a hormone that increases the feeling of hunger

and slows metabolism, have been noted in patients with anorexia and bulimia.

Low Levels of Reproductive Hormones. The hypothalamic-pituitary system is also

responsible for the production of important reproductive hormones that are

severely depleted in anorexics. Although most doctors believe that these

reproductive abnormalities are a result of anorexia, others have reported that

in 30 - 50% of people with anorexia, menstrual disturbances occurred before

severe malnutrition set in and remained a problem long after weight gain,

indicating that hypothalamic-pituitary abnormalities may precede the eating

disorder itself.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mattobrien71 <mattobrien71@...>

> Subject: 16 year old male, problems.

>

> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 1:07 AM

> Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a

> 16 year old in highschool and recently I had some

> blood work done because for the past year I have been

> feeling the following symptoms:

> Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body temperature,

> frequent urination and overall

> lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The blood

> work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and just

> got done competing at state wrestling. When that was over I

> decided to cut down for next year right away to have a

> better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> I started eating less and less, and eventually all I ate

> was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and little

> to no fats at all. All of this ended around September, so

> from June-September around four months I had pretty much

> developed an eating disorder from my favorite sport. Before

> I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7% so I was

> naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing weight

> but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the low

> tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and muscle

> loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and have

> not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get any

> stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will only

> make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me to

> " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low levels

> at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows any

> good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> suggestions.

> Levels go as follow:

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal was

> a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Matt,

I'm also in Iowa. The Dr. I go to could probably best described as HRT

friendly, but not an absolute expert on all related matters. To give you an

example, it was his initial suggestion that I have a blood test done to check T

levels (they came back low, and he prescribed TRT). He is on TRT himself.

Things went well until my E2 levels went too high. Blood tests confirmed, but

it took a couple of visits and my insistence to prescribe Arimidex to control E2

(working very well, BTW).

What you have going on sounds a little more complicated than my situation (so

I'm not sure about my Dr.'s usefulness in your case), but if you'd like to try

him, he is:

http://www.drscore.com/Iowa_/Internal_Medicine/search/-Bozek_10171339.htm\

l

Good luck.

-Kurt

>

> Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in highschool and recently I

had some

> blood work done because for the past year I have been feeling the following

symptoms:

> Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body temperature, frequent urination

and overall

> lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The blood work came back with

extremely low tesosterone, high cortisol, and little pituitary function. What

triggered all of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and just got done competing

at state wrestling. When that was over I decided to cut down for next year right

away to have a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> I started eating less and less, and eventually all I ate was mostly protein,

verry little carbohydrates, and little to no fats at all. All of this ended

around September, so from June-September around four months I had pretty much

developed an eating disorder from my favorite sport. Before I had my bodyfat

taken for school,I was at 7% so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I

am losing weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the low

tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and muscle loss, but I lift three

times a week at the school and have not noticed many strength losses, I just can

never get any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will only make

me worse, I have no idea how to correct this hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It

would mean so much to me if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is

running out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist in Des

Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork showing all this. I should

probably tell you that I'm not nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around

2,000 calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and fats. I even

supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to try to help it. I take a

multi-vitamin and an extra b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing

works. Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my favorite

sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me because I don't have the

energy to practice or compete...

> The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me to " wait it out " but

that's kind of hard with such low levels at such a young age. I was wondering if

anyone knows any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

suggestions.

> Levels go as follow:

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal was a low Hemoglobin

with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, I'm due for a visit in the next month or so, and I will ask him then.

-Kurt

> > >

> > > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in

> > highschool and recently I had some

> > > blood work done because for the past year I have been

> > feeling the following symptoms:

> > > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body

> > temperature, frequent urination and overall

> > > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The

> > blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> > cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> > of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and

> > just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was

> > over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have

> > a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I

> > ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and

> > little to no fats at all. All of this ended around

> > September, so from June-September around four months I had

> > pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite

> > sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7%

> > so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing

> > weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the

> > low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and

> > muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and

> > have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get

> > any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will

> > only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> > hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> > if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> > out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> > in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> > showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> > nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> > calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> > fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> > try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> > b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> > Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> > favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> > because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> > > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> > to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> > levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> > any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> > suggestions.

> > > Levels go as follow:

> > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> > was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> > > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm primary (and in the Iowa City area)... This Dr. has been mine for about 15

years (I've been on TRT for about a year). I feel fortunate that he was my Dr.

when I started noticing symptoms of low T.

What part of Iowa are you in?

> > > >

> > > > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in

> > > highschool and recently I had some

> > > > blood work done because for the past year I have been

> > > feeling the following symptoms:

> > > > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body

> > > temperature, frequent urination and overall

> > > > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The

> > > blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> > > cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> > > of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > > > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and

> > > just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was

> > > over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have

> > > a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > > > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I

> > > ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and

> > > little to no fats at all. All of this ended around

> > > September, so from June-September around four months I had

> > > pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite

> > > sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7%

> > > so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing

> > > weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the

> > > low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and

> > > muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and

> > > have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get

> > > any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will

> > > only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> > > hypothalamic/ pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> > > if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> > > out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> > > in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> > > showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> > > nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> > > calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> > > fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> > > try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> > > b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> > > Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> > > favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> > > because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> > > > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> > > to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> > > levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> > > any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> > > suggestions.

> > > > Levels go as follow:

> > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > > > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > > > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > > > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > > > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > > > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> > > was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > > > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16..0)

> > > > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > > > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

You could give him a try if you'd like, but it sounds (from some of the other

posts) that you've got a complicated case. I'm sure he'd want to do a lot of

tests/investigation. I know it sucks to feel lousy, but you have to the Dr.

time to do his job. A snap decision could end up being worse than no action...

It's also a possibility that he would just end up referring you to a

specialist...

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in

> > > > highschool and recently I had some

> > > > > blood work done because for the past year I have been

> > > > feeling the following symptoms:

> > > > > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body

> > > > temperature, frequent urination and overall

> > > > > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The

> > > > blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> > > > cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> > > > of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > > > > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and

> > > > just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was

> > > > over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have

> > > > a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > > > > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I

> > > > ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and

> > > > little to no fats at all. All of this ended around

> > > > September, so from June-September around four months I had

> > > > pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite

> > > > sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7%

> > > > so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing

> > > > weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the

> > > > low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and

> > > > muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and

> > > > have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get

> > > > any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will

> > > > only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> > > > hypothalamic/ pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> > > > if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> > > > out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> > > > in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> > > > showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> > > > nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> > > > calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> > > > fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> > > > try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> > > > b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> > > > Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> > > > favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> > > > because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> > > > > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> > > > to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> > > > levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> > > > any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> > > > suggestions.

> > > > > Levels go as follow:

> > > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > > > > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > > > > LH 2.2 (1..5-9.3)

> > > > > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > > > > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > > > > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> > > > was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > > > > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16..0)

> > > > > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > > > > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

You didn't do steroids or anything? This just happened after your diet?

>

> Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in highschool and recently I

had some

> blood work done because for the past year I have been feeling the following

symptoms:

> Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body temperature, frequent urination

and overall

> lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The blood work came back with

extremely low tesosterone, high cortisol, and little pituitary function. What

triggered all of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and just got done competing

at state wrestling. When that was over I decided to cut down for next year right

away to have a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> I started eating less and less, and eventually all I ate was mostly protein,

verry little carbohydrates, and little to no fats at all. All of this ended

around September, so from June-September around four months I had pretty much

developed an eating disorder from my favorite sport. Before I had my bodyfat

taken for school,I was at 7% so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I

am losing weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the low

tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and muscle loss, but I lift three

times a week at the school and have not noticed many strength losses, I just can

never get any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will only make

me worse, I have no idea how to correct this hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It

would mean so much to me if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is

running out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist in Des

Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork showing all this. I should

probably tell you that I'm not nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around

2,000 calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and fats. I even

supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to try to help it. I take a

multi-vitamin and an extra b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing

works. Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my favorite

sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me because I don't have the

energy to practice or compete...

> The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me to " wait it out " but

that's kind of hard with such low levels at such a young age. I was wondering if

anyone knows any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

suggestions.

> Levels go as follow:

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal was a low Hemoglobin

with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

>