Drug side effects?/My friend

[Guest guest]

Hello group,

Not everyone resonds to drugs the same way, and I respect my friend's right to

reject drugs. Maybe he is crazy for not adapting to the drugs and giving it a

go. In the past he hasn't been able to talk to anyone because people are quite

unnacepting of the fact he doesn't take drugs - but he'll never change his mind

if he meets with harsh attitudes about what he " should " or " shouldn't " do. He is

a sensitive soul and a beautiful human being. Like any of us, he can only

change his ideas, in an atmosphere of love and acceptance. Nobody ever changed

after being judged and psychologically " hammered " .

My friend says the side effects of drug treatment are intolerable to him. From

what I gather, it has to do with a change in his emotions and moods, which he

finds hard to manage. I will ask him to be more specific so I can pass on the

info to you. There may be new treatments now which are less invasive to the body

- if anyone has any ideas, please pass them on. I can imagine how pumping

hormones into the body would have the effect of disturbing one's moods and

bodily functions. Does anyone else get side effects from the K/F drugs, which

are hard to tolerate ? Doctors these days can be incredulous when one reports

side effects to drugs - they don't acknowledge this and offer help and guidance.

I know from personal experience.

If anyone has any ideas, would love to hear from you.

best,

Leonie

[Guest guest]

Hi Leonie,

It's good that you're trying to help your friend. He needs someone like you

right now.

There's no moral imperative here- your friend can do as he pleases- but many

guys here have found improvement on testosterone replacement therapy, & wonder

why anyone would accept low testosterone & its symptoms. If your friend has low

testosterone (a need worth addressing) as a result of Klinefelter's, I think

he's suffering unnecessarily by avoiding TRT (solution). He may simply need to

adjust the dose to get the best of both worlds- 1) the benefits of T 2) while

minimizing mood swings.

It's not a matter of being judgmental, but of addressing an endocrine disorder.

I've also worked- both personally & professionally as a personal trainer- with

folks who need medications & have endocrine disorders. It's true that not

everyone responds the same way to medications, but it's also true that certain

medications are necessary (or in some cases, the lesser of two evils) regardless

of their side effects or risks. My type 1 diabetic friend can't rely simply on

natural solutions, as there is a need for insulin. Yet, she knows that too much

insulin can cause weight gain & other complications by extension. When one

keeps things in balance, the side effects tend to be minimized.

If someone has low testosterone as a result of Klinefelter's, there is a real

need, contrary to what some may say. Unlike diabetes (where a person can die

within a week or so by not taking insulin) or 's disease (where a person

can die even sooner without cortisol replacement), people seem to " get by " with

low testosterone. But damage can occur- loss of bone mass, muscle mass, heart

integrity, anemia, etc. These are not mere " quality of life issues " (as if

those aren't important enough)- these can be quite severe, as a person who loses

substantial bone density to the point of osteoporosis can fracture a hip &

become bedridden, then subsequently develop a fatal blood clot during

immobilization.

Unless the natural alternative addresses the critical need as well as a " drug "

could, it is not addressing the root problem. Some supplements/herbs can be

extremely potent, but there are no natural alternatives to testosterone

replacement therapy, so far as I know.

Something like tribulus terrestris might be as effective as a teaspoon of soy

beans to a postmenopausal woman- i.e. some of what one needs but not quite

enough. I think naturopathic specialists would reply likewise when any sex

hormone is low. There are supplements/over the counter medications like

prenenolone (which can convert to testosterone) that can help with memory &

concentration, but that will be unlikely to supply enough T to deal with the

underlying deficiency.

It's unfortunate that your friend has had bad reactions to medications & may

also have had a plenitude of bad experiences with certain doctors. However, I

think the greatest danger would be allowing these experiences to keep him from

the medical attention he needs & deserves from a good doctor.

~Xian

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> Hello group,

>

> Not everyone resonds to drugs the same way, and I respect my friend's right to

reject drugs. Maybe he is crazy for not adapting to the drugs and giving it a

go. In the past he hasn't been able to talk to anyone because people are quite

unnacepting of the fact he doesn't take drugs - but he'll never change his mind

if he meets with harsh attitudes about what he " should " or " shouldn't " do. He is

a sensitive soul and a beautiful human being. Like any of us, he can only

change his ideas, in an atmosphere of love and acceptance. Nobody ever changed

after being judged and psychologically " hammered " .

>

> My friend says the side effects of drug treatment are intolerable to him.

From what I gather, it has to do with a change in his emotions and moods, which

he finds hard to manage. I will ask him to be more specific so I can pass on

the info to you. There may be new treatments now which are less invasive to the

body - if anyone has any ideas, please pass them on. I can imagine how pumping

hormones into the body would have the effect of disturbing one's moods and

bodily functions. Does anyone else get side effects from the K/F drugs, which

are hard to tolerate ? Doctors these days can be incredulous when one reports

side effects to drugs - they don't acknowledge this and offer help and guidance.

I know from personal experience.

>

> If anyone has any ideas, would love to hear from you.

>

> best,

> Leonie

>