Ok what am I doing wrong for injections?

[Guest guest]

Ok, i gave myself an injection a couple of days ago and my leg and upper areas

are soar!

the needle was an ultra thin 29 1/2. I am using the oil based. The T starts with

a " C " .

the needle tip nearly broke off. It takes about 20 mins to feel up .8mL. Its 200

MG.

I need advice in what am I doing wrong or is the needle not good for our usage

of T.

Thanks, peace & happiness to all.

[Guest guest]

That needle is way too thin.

I use and 18 ga needle to draw and a 23 ga 1 1/2 long needle to inject.

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> Ok, i gave myself an injection a couple of days ago and my leg and upper areas

are soar!

>

> the needle was an ultra thin 29 1/2. I am using the oil based. The T starts

with a " C " .

>

> the needle tip nearly broke off. It takes about 20 mins to feel up .8mL. Its

200 MG.

>

> I need advice in what am I doing wrong or is the needle not good for our usage

of T.

>

> Thanks, peace & happiness to all.

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[Guest guest]

UU,

trannyboy posted a thorough reply regarding needles, syringes, etc. some time

ago, & I've found this info helpful for my injections.

Injection technique may account for the pain you experienced, or you might have

hit a bad spot. Where did you inject?

First, did you warm up the vial of T beforehand? This makes it easier to draw

it out. You can put it under your armpits for 10+ minutes or roll it in your

hands (trannyboy's suggestion).

What do you do to relax your muscles before injecting? I do some leg

extensions, rub the muscle, & make sure to stretch the quad before injecting

into the outer thigh. I suppose that's why I have only slight soreness for a

few hours.

Did you switch needles? You don't want to inject with the same needle you used

to draw the T from the vial. Injecting with the same one blunts the needle,

increases the pain of insertion, & causes lots of other problems that can be

avoided by switching.

A 25 or 27 gauge needle is probably slightly cheaper for injection & make my

injections feel like mere pinches. The smaller the needle, the longer it takes

to inject. This can help maintain good technique but can also prove more

painful if the muscle isn't relaxed. Also, a 22 G needle can make it easier to

draw up the T into the syringe in the first place.

What type of syringes do you have? If you find your hand shaking, you might

want to try Luer Lock syringes

(http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.syringes.cn/img/luer_lock%252\

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M: & tbnh=103 & tbnw=114 & prev=/images%3Fq%3Dluer%2Block%2Bsyringe%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN\

%26um%3D1), which screw on to keep the needle from slipping. If your hands

don't shake in anticipation of the injection, you might want to try to use an

insulin syringe, which is easier to fill in my experience. Since they are

thinner & hold less volume (from 1-3 mL), insulin syringes fill up faster, & are

easier for me to push the plunger during injection.

Definitely sterilize the injection site by wiping it with alcohol before

injecting.

Rather than jabbing myself quickly, I ease the needle into the muscle slowly

till the needle is completely embedded, pull the plunger back to make sure I

haven't hit a vein, & then push the plunger. I've seen my diabetic friend use a

fast injection technique with 31 G needles & she still finds significant

soreness afterward, so I wouldn't advise the " quick dart " approach.

Sorry if I oversimplified anything. Hope your injections hurt less.

~Xian

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> Ok, i gave myself an injection a couple of days ago and my leg and upper areas

are soar!

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> the needle was an ultra thin 29 1/2. I am using the oil based. The T starts

with a " C " .

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> the needle tip nearly broke off. It takes about 20 mins to feel up .8mL. Its

200 MG.

>

> I need advice in what am I doing wrong or is the needle not good for our usage

of T.

>

> Thanks, peace & happiness to all.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey UU.

You might not be able to take the needle off your syringes- some come with the

needle attached (common with insulin-type syringes). I've never bought

syringes/needles from the pharmacy, so I don't know how easy it is to find

syringes without needles attached. I buy my needles here

(http://www.gpzservices.com/) & insulin syringes here

(http://www.jrsmedical.com/SYRINGES_ONLY/BND309602/product.aspx).

Have a great day.

~Xian

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[Guest guest]

I use a Beckton-Dickinson BD 309593

3 ML syringe with detachable 22 ga 1 1/2 inch needle

I draw with an 18 ga needle, then replace the 22 ga needle to inject.

http://catalog.bd.com/bdCat/viewProduct.doCustomer?productNumber=309593

Unlike the others I prefer to dart the needle in, then aspirate and slowly push

the T in.

Although the 1 1/2 inch needle looks wicked, I think injecting deeply into the

muscle causes less discomfort because there are fewer nerves deep in the muscle.

Using a larger gauge needle means you dont have to push as hard or keep in in as

long. You are not as likely to shake or jerk the needle around.

My wife gives me the shot in the buttocks, and if I have to do it myself, I

inject into the vastus lateralis (upper outside thigh).

[Guest guest]

Some guys use this size needle but do there shots 2 x's / week so it half the

dose. I do .35mls every 3 days to help keep me leveled and hold down my

estradiol levels. One thing you can do is a bigger needle I use a 27g 1ml x

1/2 " lg needle and was using this doing a .75ml shot once a week it took about 3

min's to get the oil out of the vile. I just push the amount I need to shoot of

air into the vile first then pull the plunger down all the way and hold it until

I have my dose. I have from time to time felt this and it goes away in 3 to 4

days don't know why it happens.

When I do my shot I go up higher near my hip just off the top of my thigh to the

out side. I try not to do the same leg for each shot.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: uu1845 <uu1845@...>

> Subject: Ok what am I doing wrong for injections?

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> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:25 PM

> Ok, i gave myself an injection a couple of days ago and my

> leg and upper areas are soar!

>

> the needle was an ultra thin 29 1/2. I am using the oil

> based. The T starts with a " C " .

>

> the needle tip nearly broke off. It takes about 20 mins to

> feel up .8mL. Its 200 MG.

>

> I need advice in what am I doing wrong or is the needle not

> good for our usage of T.

>

> Thanks, peace & happiness to all.

>

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[Guest guest]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:25:35 -0000, you wrote:

>Ok, i gave myself an injection a couple of days ago and my leg and upper areas

are soar!

>

>the needle was an ultra thin 29 1/2. I am using the oil based. The T starts

with a " C " .

>

>the needle tip nearly broke off. It takes about 20 mins to feel up .8mL. Its

200 MG.

>

>I need advice in what am I doing wrong or is the needle not good for our usage

of T.

>

>Thanks, peace & happiness to all.

Draw the oil with a " blunt " or an 18. Change the needle then to a 22

or 23 for the injection.

[Guest guest]

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> Ok, i gave myself an injection a couple of days ago and my leg and upper areas

are soar!

Hi,

> the needle was an ultra thin 29 1/2. I am using the oil based. The T > starts

with a " C " .

cypionate pretty standard in the US

oil based

with that small a needle it's no wonder it takes 20 min to pull up 1/2cc... and

1/2 is pretty short too... but if you're a 1% body fat guy that might not

matter.

I use a 25g 1 " needle myself... it draws reasonably quickly and 1 " is plenty

deep in -my- thighs (I'm NOT a 1% body fat guy).

you might want to go to www.spotinjections.com and go over technique.

> the needle tip nearly broke off. It takes about 20 mins to feel up > .8mL. Its

200 MG.

250mg/ml cypionate? it exists... still that 29g needle is more for like hcg

(water based) shots.