Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

[Guest guest]

Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

Does anyone have any data on that?

[Guest guest]

As LONG as your GETTING the benefits of using CIALIS, I can't imagine the long

term harm is worse then your heart NOT getting that " workout " long term.

ly, I'd take a shorter lifespan with it, than without it. And so would my

girl. Hey, gotta go!

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have data on it but my Heart Dr. put me on this for my heart I am just

getting over Heart Bypass sugary.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mqsymth <alphadennis@...>

> Subject: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 7:52 PM

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It

> inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP.

> The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so

> blood can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the

> arteries when one is working out with weights and thus

> increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three

> days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries or/or

> heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

For me the main reason for not using daily Cialis is the cost. Does anyone have

a reliable source for low cost Cialis?

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

Your a man next to my heart along with my Cialis.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: wilfredtr <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 7:57 PM

> As LONG as your GETTING the benefits

> of using CIALIS, I can't imagine the long term harm is worse

> then your heart NOT getting that " workout " long term.

> ly, I'd take a shorter lifespan with it, than without

> it. And so would my girl. Hey, gotta go!

>

>

>

> >

> > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme

> PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP

> relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can flow. It

> also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one

> is working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> >

> > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every

> three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries

> or/or heart?

> >

> > Does anyone have any data on that?

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Since they now sell the daily Cialis, which supposedly went through the

stringent FDA approval process, I would think it would be ok.

On the other hand, I've read plenty of articles that said some OTC herbs and

amino acids - namely Arginine along with zinc, DHEA, and a few others, are just

as effective as Cialis. Whether or not that's true I can't say. I know that my

experience with Cialis - including the daily - far exceeded my experience with

arginine (oh yeah, and Maca is another herb). But it's possible that arginine is

less of a " take now, play now " option and more of a " include this in your

nutritional regimen and after a few weeks you'll notice the difference. "

-- In , " mqsymth " <alphadennis@...> wrote:

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

Since insurance will not cover cialis the lowest cost for 5mg/day cialis I found

was from a canadian phram for $135 for 28 pills. Walgeens charges $175 for 30

pills.

Of course you you can get 20mg cialis cheaply from alldaychemist. And both

chemOneReseach and Ag-Guys sell liquid tadalafil(sp) for your lab rats. Funny

but even alldaychemist asks for an email from you saying you're only going to

use their tadalafil for experimental use.

You can always cut the 20mg into 1/4 as we do for arimidex.

> >

> > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> >

> > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg

daily would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

> >

> > Does anyone have any data on that?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg

daily would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any data on that?

> > >

> >

>

As a medical consultant, I be looking for why you need cilais in the first place

instead of relying on it indefinitely. Nitric oxide is a toxins if too much is

produced over time. Look at your hormonal levels and get with a good dr who will

look for the cause vs treating the symptoms.

[Guest guest]

Allday a lot of guys use them but you need to know the Chem. name of Cialis to

fine it.

http://www.alldaychemist.com/index.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: esplinbj <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 9:59 AM

> For me the main reason for not using

> daily Cialis is the cost.  Does anyone have a reliable

> source for low cost Cialis?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme

> PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP

> relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can flow. It

> also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one

> is working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> >

> > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every

> three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries

> or/or heart?

> >

> > Does anyone have any data on that?

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

How do you know if what you are getting is of good quality? I've read a lot of

bad things about overseas online pharmacies not having the correct doseage in

the drug and so forth.

bjesplin

> > >

> > > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme

> > PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP

> > relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can flow. It

> > also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one

> > is working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every

> > three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries

> > or/or heart?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any data on that?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This is what I do I cut the Cialis into 3 parts I cut it side ways just in front

of the 2 then I cut the bigger part in half this works the best for men the cost

of 5mgs pills is not that back it's Drug care they only give one 35 to 40 pills

for 90 days so when my Dr. gave me the script for 5mgs /day they only sent me 35

5 mgs pills. I need to have my Heart DR. send them a letter saying this is for

treating my heart.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mqsymth <alphadennis@...>

> Subject: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 11:07 AM

> Since insurance will not cover cialis

> the lowest cost for 5mg/day cialis I found was from a

> canadian phram for $135 for 28 pills.  Walgeens charges

> $175 for 30 pills.

>

> Of course you you can get 20mg cialis cheaply from

> alldaychemist. And both chemOneReseach and Ag-Guys sell

> liquid tadalafil(sp) for your lab rats.  Funny but even

> alldaychemist asks for an email from you saying you're only

> going to use their tadalafil for experimental use.

>

> You can always cut the 20mg into 1/4 as we do for

> arimidex.

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the

> enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical

> cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can

> flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries

> when one is working out with weights and thus increases

> strength.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg

> every three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the

> arteries or/or heart?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any data on that?

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Go to this web site and ask the guys that use them.

Alt-Support-Impotence-ASI/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: esplinbj <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 2:47 PM

> How do you know if what you are

> getting is of good quality?  I've read a lot of bad

> things about overseas online pharmacies not having the

> correct doseage in the drug and so forth.

>

> bjesplin

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the

> enzyme

> > > PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The

> chemical cGMP

> > > relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

> can flow. It

> > > also works to increase blood flow in the arteries

> when one

> > > is working out with weights and thus increases

> strength.

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if long term use of cialis

> 20mg every

> > > three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the

> arteries

> > > or/or heart?

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have any data on that?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

An excellent recent medical journal I read said that PDE5 inhibitors are

beneficial for improving endothelial function and therefore CVD

What is not clear is longer-term studies as PDE5 inhibitors only been available

10 years s you know but from data available so far it ould appear to be

beneficial for the heart.

But for viagra for instance whats not clear is possible long-term sides related

to eyesight for example as Sildenafil and vardenafil inhibit PDE6, an enzyme

found in the eye, more than tadalafil. Some sildenafil users see a bluish tinge

and have a heightened sensitivity to light because of PDE6 inhibition.

Sildenafil and vardenafil also inhibit PDE1 more than tadalafil. PDE1 is found

in the brain, heart, and vascular smooth muscle. It is thought that the

inhibition of PDE1 by sildenafil and vardenafil leads to vasodilation, flushing,

and tachycardia.Tadalafil inhibits PDE11 more than sildenafil or vardenafil.

PDE11 is expressed in skeletal muscle, the prostate, the liver, the kidney, the

pituitary gland, and the testes. The effects on the body of inhibiting PDE11 are

not known (yet)

key points of the journal were:

If you want to read it in its entirety its:

www.nature.com/clinicalpractice/cardio

The erectile–endothelial dysfunction nexus: new

opportunities for cardiovascular risk prevention

Gerald F Watts*, Kew-Kim Chew and Bronwyn GA Stuckey

KEY POINTS

& #9632; Endothelial and erectile dysfunction are

intimately associated; both disorders arise

from disturbance in the release and action

of nitric oxide from endothelial cells

& #9632; Erectile and endothelial dysfunction can be

readily detected clinically and are associated

with a wide spectrum of cardiovascular risk

factors, and are also independently predictive

of cardiovascular events

& #9632; Both conditions can be improved by lifestyle

modifications and by several pharmacological

agents

& #9632; Phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors improve

both endothelial and erectile dysfunction by

potentiating the action of nitric oxide from

endothelial cells

& #9632; The Princeton consensus offers practical

guidelines for assessing cardiovascular risk

in patients with erectile dysfunction and

managing erectile dysfunction in patients with

established coronary artery disease

Phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors

The development and clinical introduction of PDE5 inhibitors has revolutionized

the management of patients with ED. By inhibiting PDE5,

these agents enhance the bioeffectiveness of NO in SM cells by increasing

signaling from cGMP Nitric oxide GTP cGMP GMP Vascular smooth muscle relaxation

Corpus cavrnosum smooth muscle relaxation

Erection Vasodilation Activates Inhibits Sexual stimulation Organic nitrates

PDE5 inhibitor Guanylate PDE cyclase Figure 5 Mechanism of action of

phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors in inducing smooth-muscle relaxation in

cavernosal arteries and in the peripheral circulation. Abbreviations: cGMP,

cyclic GMP;PDE5, phosphodiesterase type 5.to protein kinase G, and hence the

maintenance of penile blood flow (Figure 5).65 Preclinical studies in healthy

individuals showed that the PDE5 inhibitor sildenafil had a mild hypotensive

effect and also improved arterial stiffness. Several studies have now shown that

PDE5 inhibitors improve coronary endothelial function in patients with ischemic

heart disease and heart failure.67,68

The benefits of treating pulmonary hypertension by enhancing the NO pathway in

the local vasculature with sildenafil have also been

identified, but the efficacy of this treatment remains to be confirmed in

controlled clinical trials.69 More recently, controlled observations have

clearly shown that both sildenafil and the

longer-acting tadalafil improve brachial artery flow-mediated dilatation in men

at increased risk of CVD, including those with type 2 diabetes.70,71

Improvements have also been reported in patients with type 2 diabetes within 1 h

of 25 mg sildenafil being admini stered orally, with sustained improvement after

continuing

therapy for 4 weeks.70 Similarly, significant improvements in endothelial

function in the brachial artery remained 2 weeks after stopping tadalafil in men

at increased risk of CVD.71 This

finding was corroborated by increased plasma concentration of NO and reduced

endothelin-1 levels.71 A recent study has also indicated there

could be an inter active benefit from adding a PDE5 inhibitor to an ACE

inhibitor in patients with heart failure.72 Agents that increase the expression

of eNOS either directly or via risk-factor modification

can, therefore, potentially have an additive or synergistic effect in improving

endothelial function when coadministered with a PDE5

inhibitor, since the latter operates downstream of eNOS. This notion has also

been shown to extend to improvement in erectile function.73

Whether lifestyle interventions work in synergy with PDE5 inhibitors in

improving coronary and peripheral endothelial function remains

unknown. Other agents that have been known to improve endothelial function as

well as ED include l-arginine, tetrahydrobiopterin and

antioxidant supplements.53

> > >

> > > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme

> > PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP

> > relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can flow. It

> > also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one

> > is working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every

> > three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries

> > or/or heart?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any data on that?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Talk about longer-term use I have been on them from day one. Not a problem I

think and my Heart Dr. said this he feels this is what kept me alive with the

blockages I had going to my heart.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...>

> Subject: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 5:56 PM

> An excellent recent medical journal I

> read said that PDE5 inhibitors are beneficial for improving

> endothelial function and therefore CVD

>

> What is not clear is longer-term studies as PDE5 inhibitors

> only been available 10 years s you know but from data

> available so far it ould appear to be beneficial for the

> heart.

>

> But for viagra for instance whats not clear is possible

> long-term sides related to eyesight for example as

> Sildenafil and vardenafil inhibit PDE6, an enzyme found in

> the eye, more than tadalafil. Some sildenafil users see a

> bluish tinge and have a heightened sensitivity to light

> because of PDE6 inhibition. Sildenafil and vardenafil also

> inhibit PDE1 more than tadalafil. PDE1 is found in the

> brain, heart, and vascular smooth muscle. It is thought that

> the inhibition of PDE1 by sildenafil and vardenafil leads to

> vasodilation, flushing, and tachycardia.Tadalafil inhibits

> PDE11 more than sildenafil or vardenafil. PDE11 is expressed

> in skeletal muscle, the prostate, the liver, the kidney, the

> pituitary gland, and the testes. The effects on the body of

> inhibiting PDE11 are not known (yet)

>

>

> key points of the journal were:

>

> If you want to read it in its entirety its:

>

> www.nature.com/clinicalpractice/cardio

> The erectile–endothelial dysfunction nexus: new

> opportunities for cardiovascular risk prevention

> Gerald F Watts*, Kew-Kim Chew and Bronwyn GA Stuckey

>

> KEY POINTS

> â–  Endothelial and erectile dysfunction are

> intimately associated; both disorders arise

> from disturbance in the release and action

> of nitric oxide from endothelial cells

>

> â–  Erectile and endothelial dysfunction can be

> readily detected clinically and are associated

> with a wide spectrum of cardiovascular risk

> factors, and are also independently predictive

> of cardiovascular events

>

> â–  Both conditions can be improved by lifestyle

> modifications and by several pharmacological

> agents

>

> â–  Phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors improve

> both endothelial and erectile dysfunction by

> potentiating the action of nitric oxide from

> endothelial cells

>

> â–  The Princeton consensus offers practical

> guidelines for assessing cardiovascular risk

> in patients with erectile dysfunction and

> managing erectile dysfunction in patients with

> established coronary artery disease

>

>

> Phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors

> The development and clinical introduction of PDE5

> inhibitors has revolutionized the management of patients

> with ED. By inhibiting PDE5,

> these agents enhance the bioeffectiveness of NO in SM cells

> by increasing signaling from cGMP Nitric oxide GTP cGMP GMP

> Vascular smooth muscle relaxation Corpus cavrnosum smooth

> muscle relaxation

> Erection Vasodilation Activates Inhibits Sexual stimulation

> Organic nitrates PDE5 inhibitor Guanylate PDE cyclase Figure

> 5 Mechanism of action of phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors

> in inducing smooth-muscle relaxation in cavernosal arteries

> and in the peripheral circulation. Abbreviations: cGMP,

> cyclic GMP;PDE5, phosphodiesterase type 5.to protein kinase

> G, and hence the maintenance of penile blood flow (Figure

> 5).65 Preclinical studies in healthy individuals showed that

> the PDE5 inhibitor sildenafil had a mild hypotensive effect

> and also improved arterial stiffness. Several studies have

> now shown that

> PDE5 inhibitors improve coronary endothelial function in

> patients with ischemic heart disease and heart

> failure.67,68

> The benefits of treating pulmonary hypertension by

> enhancing the NO pathway in the local vasculature with

> sildenafil have also been

> identified, but the efficacy of this treatment remains to

> be confirmed in controlled clinical trials.69 More recently,

> controlled observations have clearly shown that both

> sildenafil and the

> longer-acting tadalafil improve brachial artery

> flow-mediated dilatation in men at increased risk of CVD,

> including those with type 2 diabetes.70,71 Improvements have

> also been reported in patients with type 2 diabetes within 1

> h of 25 mg sildenafil being admini stered orally, with

> sustained improvement after continuing

> therapy for 4 weeks.70 Similarly, significant improvements

> in endothelial function in the brachial artery remained 2

> weeks after stopping tadalafil in men at increased risk of

> CVD.71 This

> finding was corroborated by increased plasma concentration

> of NO and reduced endothelin-1 levels.71 A recent study has

> also indicated there

> could be an inter active benefit from adding a PDE5

> inhibitor to an ACE inhibitor in patients with heart

> failure.72 Agents that increase the expression of eNOS

> either directly or via risk-factor modification

> can, therefore, potentially have an additive or synergistic

> effect in improving endothelial function when coadministered

> with a PDE5

> inhibitor, since the latter operates downstream of eNOS.

> This notion has also been shown to extend to improvement in

> erectile function.73

> Whether lifestyle interventions work in synergy with PDE5

> inhibitors in improving coronary and peripheral endothelial

> function remains

> unknown. Other agents that have been known to improve

> endothelial function as well as ED include l-arginine,

> tetrahydrobiopterin and

> antioxidant supplements.53

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the

> enzyme

> > > PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The

> chemical cGMP

> > > relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

> can flow. It

> > > also works to increase blood flow in the arteries

> when one

> > > is working out with weights and thus increases

> strength.

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if long term use of cialis

> 20mg every

> > > three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the

> arteries

> > > or/or heart?

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have any data on that?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using Cialis daily as opposed to

just using it when you have sex? My wife and I have sex usually every other

day. Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me) every other day be more

effective than 5mg per day since you would be getting a larger dose at the time

you need it?

bjesplin

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

I'm currently using Levitra. I used to take Viagra until it no longer did

anything for me. Anyway, to answer your question. I personaly. Believe that

the only advantage you have using the Daily Cialis is that you pop a pill every

day first thing in the morning this way you'll be ready whenever. Unlike when

using the Levitra & Viagra, you actually have to plan when you're going to be

having intercourse so you can take the pill at least 30 min in advance to allow

it to get into your system.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using Cialis daily as opposed to

just using it when you have sex? My wife and I have sex usually every other

day. Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me) every other day be more

effective than 5mg per day since you would be getting a larger dose at the time

you need it?

bjesplin

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

From the day Cialis come out my Dr. gave me it to take every 3 days 20 mgs doing

this you don't have to wait for it to work your ready anytime because Cialis

lasts this long. I had ED for yrs because of high levels of estradiol that I

did not know about. Getting this down my ED was gone but having it ED that is

every time I went to have sex I would worry about it working and lose it. So

Cialis worked great this way and no sides after taking it a week. Also it will

keep ones BP lower.

Today I am on it for my heart and I cut the 20 mg pill into 3 parts and take one

part of it everyday. I can't get my Caremark drug care plain to pay for 5 mgs

everyday. They approved the payment of it for my heart but still send me the

amount one gets for ED and this is like 35 pills for 90 days. After calling the

both myself and my heart Dr. they say it's approved but still will not send me

90 5 mgs pills. When we call them they say my Co. only allows 35 pills for ED.

Even when we tell them it's for my heart I only get 35 pills. I even have a

letter from my Co. saying they will pay for cialis if it's for your heart. Nice

house no one home so I cut the pills into 3 parts.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: esplinbj <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 10:12 AM

>

> When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using

> Cialis daily as opposed to just using it when you have

> sex?  My wife and I have sex usually every other

> day.  Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me)

> every other day be more effective than 5mg per day since you

> would be getting a larger dose at the time you need it?

> bjesplin

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme

> PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP

> relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can flow. It

> also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one

> is working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> >

> > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every

> three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries

> or/or heart?

> >

> > Does anyone have any data on that?

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Before Cialis came out with the 5 mgs pills to be taken everyday we would do 20

mgs every 3 days and get the same effect.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: newdawg770@... <newdawg770@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

>

> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 10:34 AM

> I'm currently using Levitra. I used

> to take Viagra until it no longer did anything for me. 

> Anyway, to answer your question.  I personaly. Believe

> that the only advantage you have using the Daily Cialis is

> that you pop a pill every day first thing in the morning

> this way you'll be ready whenever.  Unlike when using

> the Levitra & Viagra, you actually have to plan when

> you're going to be having intercourse so you can take the

> pill at least 30 min in advance to allow it to get into your

> system.

> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

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> Re: Is Long term use of cialis good

> for you?

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> When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using

> Cialis daily as opposed to just using it when you have

> sex?  My wife and I have sex usually every other

> day.  Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me)

> every other day be more effective than 5mg per day since you

> would be getting a larger dose at the time you need it?

> bjesplin

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> > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme

> PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP

> relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can flow. It

> also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one

> is working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> >

> > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every

> three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries

> or/or heart?

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> > Does anyone have any data on that?

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[Guest guest]

what dose of Levitra do you use? Are you pleased with it? may I ask your age?

I tried it once and like it very much (generic form from ADC). I have never

tried Cialis but plan to do so in the near future.

quite curious about Levitra: any users out there? e-mail me privately if you

like

thanks

Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using Cialis daily as opposed to

just using it when you have sex? My wife and I have sex usually every other

day. Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me) every other day be more

effective than 5mg per day since you would be getting a larger dose at the time

you need it?

bjesplin

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

Kipp,

I use the 20mg pill and am pretty pleased with it. As I stated earlier, it

works better than Viagra for me. I'm 46 and have had ED going on 9 years now.

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Re: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

what dose of Levitra do you use? Are you pleased with it? may I ask your age?

I tried it once and like it very much (generic form from ADC). I have never

tried Cialis but plan to do so in the near future.

quite curious about Levitra: any users out there? e-mail me privately if you

like

thanks

Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using Cialis daily as opposed to

just using it when you have sex? My wife and I have sex usually every other

day. Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me) every other day be more

effective than 5mg per day since you would be getting a larger dose at the time

you need it?

bjesplin

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

Forgot to add that every now and then I'll get a dud pill that definitely spoils

the moment

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Re: Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

what dose of Levitra do you use? Are you pleased with it? may I ask your age?

I tried it once and like it very much (generic form from ADC). I have never

tried Cialis but plan to do so in the near future.

quite curious about Levitra: any users out there? e-mail me privately if you

like

thanks

Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using Cialis daily as opposed to

just using it when you have sex? My wife and I have sex usually every other

day. Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me) every other day be more

effective than 5mg per day since you would be getting a larger dose at the time

you need it?

bjesplin

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>

[Guest guest]

My doctor gave me a sample pack of Levitra 10mg. I used it once and I don't

remember how well it worked, but I got some strange chest pains shortly after

taking it. This kind of scared me so I haven't used since. Anyone else had

this happen? I'm 44 and have no known heart condition.

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> > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

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> > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg

daily would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> >

>

> > Does anyone have any data on that?

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[Guest guest]

I already have fairly low blood preasure, around 116 over 68. Do you think

daily cialis would lower it too much?

> > >

> > > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme

> > PDE-5 that attacks the chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP

> > relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood can flow. It

> > also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one

> > is working out with weights and thus increases strength.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every

> > three days or 5mg daily would be harmful to the arteries

> > or/or heart?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any data on that?

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

The only side effect I get is a stuffy nose

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Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

My doctor gave me a sample pack of Levitra 10mg. I used it once and I don't

remember how well it worked, but I got some strange chest pains shortly after

taking it. This kind of scared me so I haven't used since. Anyone else had

this happen? I'm 44 and have no known heart condition.

>

> >

>

> > Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

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> > I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg

daily would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> >

>

> > Does anyone have any data on that?

>

> >

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[Guest guest]

do you buy " brand name Levitra? or generic?

Re: Is Long term use of cialis good for you?

When used to treat ED, what is the advantage of using Cialis daily as opposed to

just using it when you have sex? My wife and I have sex usually every other

day. Wouldn't 10mg(which is an effective dose for me) every other day be more

effective than 5mg per day since you would be getting a larger dose at the time

you need it?

bjesplin

>

> Cialis is a PDE-5 inhibitor. It inhibits the enzyme PDE-5 that attacks the

chemical cGMP. The chemical cGMP relaxes the artery walls in the penis, so blood

can flow. It also works to increase blood flow in the arteries when one is

working out with weights and thus increases strength.

>

> I was wondering if long term use of cialis 20mg every three days or 5mg daily

would be harmful to the arteries or/or heart?

>

> Does anyone have any data on that?

>