Matt O'Brien Re: Digest Number 3863

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Dorset, England 30th September 2009

> > > > > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> > > > to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> > > > levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> > > > any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> > > > suggestions.

> > > > > Levels go as follow:

> > > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > > > > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > > > > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > > > > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > > > > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > > > > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> > > > was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > > > > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> > > > > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > > > > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> > > > >

Hi Matt

Sorry to hear of your medical difficulties and blood test results.

I was first taken ill at ca 17 but did not have (late 1960s) full blood tests

and so early

symptoms were missed. However, the symptoms you describe and blood tests need

far

more investigation and unfortunately this can mean still waiting for treatment

so as not to

mask or interfere with blood tests and investigations. Your Endocrinologist and

other

members here will report that when you have a possible Pituitary and/or

Hypothalamus

condition you need an MRi scan of the Head as well as various blood tests.

Fatigue can be

caused by many different hormones or glands going wrong such as Adrenal gland,

Pituitary,

Thyroid, Parathyroid and even Pancreas (Diabetes / Metabolic disorder etc).

I wanted to write as you have low Haemoglobin and Haemocrit levels.

Do ask for a Vitamin B12 and a Folate blood test as these relate to blood and

taking oxygen

to muscles and low or deficient levels caused exhaustion as well. Additionally,

Vitamin B12

deficiency can also be caused from Hypothyroid problems.

I briefly read where you question the Chlomid Test. All of these come under

" further

investigations " of the Pituitary and Hypothalamus and so try and be patient

whilst you

address the full picture rather than assuming all is caused from just one

problem at this

stage.

Sincere good wishes,

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On 30 Sep 2009 at 13:19, wrote:

> There are 15 messages in this issue.

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> Topics in this digest:

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> 1a. Re: 16 year old male, problems.

> From: Kurt

> 1b. Re: 16 year old male, problems.

> From: Matt Obrien

> 1c. Re: 16 year old male, problems.

> From: Kurt

> 1d. Re: 16 year old male, problems.

> From: Matt Obrien

> 1e. Re: 16 year old male, problems.

> From: Matt Obrien

>

> 2a. hypogonadism

> From: Carson

> 2b. Re: hypogonadism

> From: philip georgian

>

> 3a. Reversal of fortune

> From: Ed Hale

> 3b. Re: Reversal of fortune

> From: philip georgian

> 3c. Re: Reversal of fortune

> From: Older Guy

> 3d. Re: Reversal of fortune

> From: k0cm

>

> 4. prostate

> From: stan

>

> 5a. how much would it cost

> From: Kipp Kruse

> 5b. Re: how much would it cost

> From:

>

> 6. 'shut down' of testosterone and sperm production?

> From: bob

>

>

> Messages

> ________________________________________________________________________

> 1a. Re: 16 year old male, problems.

> Posted by: " Kurt " kurtpete@... kurt_pete

> Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:05 am ((PDT))

>

> Yep, I'm due for a visit in the next month or so, and I will ask him then.

>

> -Kurt

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in

> > > highschool and recently I had some

> > > > blood work done because for the past year I have been

> > > feeling the following symptoms:

> > > > Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body

> > > temperature, frequent urination and overall

> > > > lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The

> > > blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high

> > > cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all

> > > of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008.

> > > > Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and

> > > just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was

> > > over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have

> > > a better chance at doing better in wrestling.

> > > > I started eating less and less, and eventually all I

> > > ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and

> > > little to no fats at all. All of this ended around

> > > September, so from June-September around four months I had

> > > pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite

> > > sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7%

> > > so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing

> > > weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the

> > > low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and

> > > muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and

> > > have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get

> > > any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will

> > > only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this

> > > hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me

> > > if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running

> > > out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist

> > > in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork

> > > showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not

> > > nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000

> > > calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and

> > > fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to

> > > try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra

> > > b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works.

> > > Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my

> > > favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me

> > > because I don't have the energy to practice or compete...

> > > > The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me

> > > to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low

> > > levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows

> > > any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any

> > > suggestions.

> > > > Levels go as follow:

> > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76)

> > > > TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50)

> > > > LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3)

> > > > Testosterone 96.7 (241-827)

> > > > Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic

> > > > The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal

> > > was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC.

> > > > Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0)

> > > > RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10)

> > > > Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50)

> > > > IGF-1- 243 range (257-601)

> > > > ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol

> > > >

> > >

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