Re: Low Cortisol Confirmed - What next ??????

[Guest guest]

You both need to treat this and I don't feel it's hereditary most people is

Primary have this do to stress if Secondary they need to test doing ACTH to see

if it's there Pituiaty.  Read the links in this link it's a FAQ's on this

problem.  You need to treat this with HC or Isocort this Dr. is great about this

and is in the UK.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=256

http://featherstone.bravehost.com/thyroid/peatfieldadrenal.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: strummer1961200087 <ian.kay1@...>

> Subject: Low Cortisol Confirmed -  What next ??????

>

> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 9:25 AM

> I just confirmation from Genova

> Diagnostics of my 24hr Salivery Adrenal test.

> Both my 17yo Daughter & myself confirmed Low Cortisol

> :

>

> Daughter : 17yo Female

> Cortisol :

> Sample 1 - 10.3 (ref 12-22

> Sample 2 - 2.3 (ref 5.0 - 9.0)

> Sample 3 - 2.4 (ref 3.0 - 7.0)

> Sample 4 - 0.6 (ref 1.0 - 3.0)

> Total daily - 15.6 (ref 21 - 41 nmol/L)

>

> DHEA :

> Sample 2 - 0.75

> Sample 3 - 0.64

> DHEA Cortisol ratio - 4.45

>

> Me : 48yo Male

> Cortisol :

> Sample 1 - 5.6 (ref 12-22

> Sample 2 - 1.2 (ref 5.0 - 9.0)

> Sample 3 - 0.6 (ref 3.0 - 7.0)

> Sample 4 - 0.5 (ref 1.0 - 3.0)

> Total daily - 7.9 (ref 21 - 41 nmol/L)

>

> DHEA :

> Sample 2 - 0.25

> Sample 3 - 0.32

> DHEA Cortisol ratio - 3.61

>

>

> The notes class my Daughter at " Adrenal Fatigue " , whilst

> mine is " Exhaustion

> Stage " .

>

> Am I right in thinking this points towards a hereditary

> condition?

>

> What should I do next?

>

> Thanks

> Ian

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Phil

Wow, small world, I nearly booked an appointment with Dr Peatfield, (which would

have been yesterday), but I postponed as I'm awaiting results to several tests,

incl this one & ITT/GNRH/TRH

I'm going to give a copy of this report to my GP & Endo too. Do you think they

should prescribe me Hydrocortisone?

Btw, my early Testosterone tests, pre & post TRT indicate an issue with my

Pituitary.

Thanks again

Ian

>

> > From: strummer1961200087 <ian.kay1@...>

> > Subject: Low Cortisol Confirmed -  What next ??????

> >

> > Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 9:25 AM

> > I just confirmation from Genova

> > Diagnostics of my 24hr Salivery Adrenal test.

> > Both my 17yo Daughter & myself confirmed Low Cortisol

> > :

> >

> > Daughter : 17yo Female

> > Cortisol :

> > Sample 1 - 10.3 (ref 12-22

> > Sample 2 - 2.3 (ref 5.0 - 9.0)

> > Sample 3 - 2.4 (ref 3.0 - 7.0)

> > Sample 4 - 0.6 (ref 1.0 - 3.0)

> > Total daily - 15.6 (ref 21 - 41 nmol/L)

> >

> > DHEA :

> > Sample 2 - 0.75

> > Sample 3 - 0.64

> > DHEA Cortisol ratio - 4.45

> >

> > Me : 48yo Male

> > Cortisol :

> > Sample 1 - 5.6 (ref 12-22

> > Sample 2 - 1.2 (ref 5.0 - 9.0)

> > Sample 3 - 0.6 (ref 3.0 - 7.0)

> > Sample 4 - 0.5 (ref 1.0 - 3.0)

> > Total daily - 7.9 (ref 21 - 41 nmol/L)

> >

> > DHEA :

> > Sample 2 - 0.25

> > Sample 3 - 0.32

> > DHEA Cortisol ratio - 3.61

> >

> >

> > The notes class my Daughter at " Adrenal Fatigue " , whilst

> > mine is " Exhaustion

> > Stage " .

> >

> > Am I right in thinking this points towards a hereditary

> > condition?

> >

> > What should I do next?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Ian

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil

I may be completely wrong, but I have a feeling I may be Secondary.

Reason for this is my Testosterone Deficiency points towards my Pituitary. Lots

of family history points to some Thyroid issues, maybe AutoImmune (not yet

confirmed of course).

I'm trying to get the results to my recent 3 tests (ITT, GNRH & TRH) in the hope

they will shed some light.

So should I go ahead & try HC or wait for my GP or Endo to give it?

What about my Daughter?

Thanks again!

ian

>

> Yes and it's the best way to treat this problem if your Primary meaning they

are just over worked going on HC for about 6 months doing 5 mgs 4x's a day of if

you feeling real bad in the morning do 10 mgs then 5 mgs at lunch and Dinner

time. Some people need more you can tell if it dose not last 4 hrs or you need

to stress dose a lot. Read the FAQ's I gave you it them it tells you how to

start on HC and later how to come off it to retest. When you take HC your

supporting your adrenals so the are not working so hard. Supporting them lets

them heal and when you come off HC and feel good your healed.

>

> But what every you did in your life to stress them you need to stop and do a

life change or they will poop out again.

>

> Taking HC is safe a lot of Dr.'s think it's not but as long as you don't do

more the 40 mgs a day you don't shut down your ACTH messages. In this link you

can read some of the best parts to Dr. Jefferies book " Safe Uses of Cortisol " if

your Dr. does not want to give you HC show him this link.

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/safe-uses

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

[Guest guest]

Treating adrenals are not that complicated as phil suggested, but your dr needs

to look into why this is happening. Hidden mercury or toxin exposures,

undermethylation issues, improper nutrient balance, and a whole slew of other

factors could be in play. Further evaluation is needed by a competent

knowledgeable Health practioner to get to bottom of this. You also need to look

into other hormones to see where the imbalances are occuring. Many young women

are estrogen dominant due to exposure of xeno estrogen in food water as well as

mercury toxic because of acid rain run off. I have ran into you on other boards

and you have contact information. Your problem goes alot deeper then

traditoinal Dr's are trained in.

> >

> > Yes and it's the best way to treat this problem if your Primary meaning they

are just over worked going on HC for about 6 months doing 5 mgs 4x's a day of if

you feeling real bad in the morning do 10 mgs then 5 mgs at lunch and Dinner

time. Some people need more you can tell if it dose not last 4 hrs or you need

to stress dose a lot. Read the FAQ's I gave you it them it tells you how to

start on HC and later how to come off it to retest. When you take HC your

supporting your adrenals so the are not working so hard. Supporting them lets

them heal and when you come off HC and feel good your healed.

> >

> > But what every you did in your life to stress them you need to stop and do a

life change or they will poop out again.

> >

> > Taking HC is safe a lot of Dr.'s think it's not but as long as you don't do

more the 40 mgs a day you don't shut down your ACTH messages. In this link you

can read some of the best parts to Dr. Jefferies book " Safe Uses of Cortisol " if

your Dr. does not want to give you HC show him this link.

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/safe-uses

> >

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks again HAN

Yes, I'm pretty sure I will be going down the Dr Peatfield route or Dr

Hertoghe if funds allow.

I'm only holding back, because I have so many test results to come in.

I suppose I have to give my Endo a chance first??

I just had some good news on that front. My Endo is away on holiday for

2 weeks, but his secretary just agreed to fax all my test results to my

GP. I may get hold of them tomorrow.

Thanks again!

Ian

>

> Treating adrenals are not that complicated as phil suggested, but your

dr needs to look into why this is happening. Hidden mercury or toxin

exposures, undermethylation issues, improper nutrient balance, and a

whole slew of other factors could be in play. Further evaluation is

needed by a competent knowledgeable Health practioner to get to bottom

of this. You also need to look into other hormones to see where the

imbalances are occuring. Many young women are estrogen dominant due to

exposure of xeno estrogen in food water as well as mercury toxic because

of acid rain run off. I have ran into you on other boards and you have

contact information. Your problem goes alot deeper then traditoinal

Dr's are trained in.

[Guest guest]

Thanks again Phil

How about this :

edrugnet

<http://www.edrugnet.co.uk/showprice.asp?name=hydrocortisone & bysearch=ok\

& Go.x=11 & Go.y=12>

I have used these before. Even the FREE delivery took just 5 days from

Thailand to UK. Hardly worth paying the £25 for a 2 day delivery.

I should know tomorrow if my GP will give me HC. My Endo is away on

holiday, so I'll have to wait for any decision there.

Regards

Ian

> > >

> > > Yes and it's the best way to treat this problem if

> > your Primary meaning they are just over worked going on HC

> > for about 6 months doing 5 mgs 4x's a day of if you feeling

> > real bad in the morning do 10 mgs then 5 mgs at lunch and

> > Dinner time. Some people need more you can tell if it

> > dose not last 4 hrs or you need to stress dose a lot.

> > Read the FAQ's I gave you it them it tells you how to start

> > on HC and later how to come off it to retest. When you

> > take HC your supporting your adrenals so the are not working

> > so hard. Supporting them lets them heal and when you

> > come off HC and feel good your healed.

> > >

> > > But what every you did in your life to stress them you

> > need to stop and do a life change or they will poop out

> > again.

> > >

> > > Taking HC is safe a lot of Dr.'s think it's not but as

> > long as you don't do more the 40 mgs a day you don't shut

> > down your ACTH messages. In this link you can read

> > some of the best parts to Dr. Jefferies book " Safe Uses of

> > Cortisol " if your Dr. does not want to give you HC show him

> > this link.

> > >

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/safe-uses

> > >

> > > Co-Moderator

> > > Phil

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

HC with many people is 25-75% absorbed so you need to confirm how much cortisol

is being assmiluated into the blood.

> > > >

> > > > Yes and it's the best way to treat this problem if

> > > your Primary meaning they are just over worked going on HC

> > > for about 6 months doing 5 mgs 4x's a day of if you feeling

> > > real bad in the morning do 10 mgs then 5 mgs at lunch and

> > > Dinner time. Some people need more you can tell if it

> > > dose not last 4 hrs or you need to stress dose a lot.

> > > Read the FAQ's I gave you it them it tells you how to start

> > > on HC and later how to come off it to retest. When you

> > > take HC your supporting your adrenals so the are not working

> > > so hard. Supporting them lets them heal and when you

> > > come off HC and feel good your healed.

> > > >

> > > > But what every you did in your life to stress them you

> > > need to stop and do a life change or they will poop out

> > > again.

> > > >

> > > > Taking HC is safe a lot of Dr.'s think it's not but as

> > > long as you don't do more the 40 mgs a day you don't shut

> > > down your ACTH messages. In this link you can read

> > > some of the best parts to Dr. Jefferies book " Safe Uses of

> > > Cortisol " if your Dr. does not want to give you HC show him

> > > this link.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/safe-uses

> > > >

> > > > Co-Moderator

> > > > Phil

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks HAN

How would we do that?

>

>

HC with many people is 25-75% absorbed so you need to confirm how much

cortisol is being assmiluated into the blood.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil

I won't do anything until my GP & Endo have had their comment. They may order

more tests?? Or maybe they will prescribe??

Regards

Ian

>

> > From: strummer1961200087 <ian.kay1@...>

> > Subject: Re: Low Cortisol Confirmed - What next ??????

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 10:44 AM

> > Thanks again Phil

> >

> > How about this :

> > edrugnet

> > <

>