Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Phil, Would the DIM mentioned below be better? Tom, can you post a link for it? Thanks, SC > > A few couple comments on Indoplex DIM as folows: > > The main mfg. Phyto Pharmica is no longer offering Indoplex DIM. Their sister company Enzymatic is now continuing the line and it appears, WHILE THE LABEL NO LONGER STATES IT IS FOR MEN AND WOMEN, that the formula and amounts of each ingredient are the same. > > However, I used Indoplex/DIM when it was produced under the green label from PhytoPharmica and I noticed my coumadin INR level went down into dangerous levels of 1.6 from 2.3. > > I was verbally told over the phone by PhytoPharmica that there was no vitamin K and that even though Indoplex/DIM was derived from broccoli/crucfuris plants that there should be no impact to my coumadin levels. After having an adverse reaction to Arimidex and before I found out DIM does not prevent the new production of E2 but addresses the existing E2, I roled back onto DIM and had the same experience of having my coumadin INR levels tank. > > What I suspect is that the mfg was being honest, but overloked the fact that the Indoplex/DIM had a significant portion of Calcium, which I belive was acting as a binder to the coumadin thereby lowering my INR level. So in addition to finding a natural alternative to Arimidex in the white button mushroom extract, I also found a source of high grade DIM that is just that DIM and DIM alone. > > What I am also noticing is that many mfg's take it on themselves to augment and enhance their formulas not realizing that certain sets of patients segments really need the control of having the purest unaccompanied form of the med or supplement/alternative being considered in order to guarantee efficacy and to control any other potential random variables from confusing and complicating. > > Tom U > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Yes as long as whats in it is the same as in this link. http://www.myvitanet.com/indolplex-with-dim-60-tab-phytopharmica.html Co-Moderator Phil > From: jeff_cline2003 <jc2wd@...> > Subject: Re: Indoplex DIM > > Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 12:35 AM > Phil, > Would the DIM mentioned below be better? Tom, can you > post a link for it? > Thanks, SC > > > > > > > > A few couple comments on Indoplex DIM as folows: > > > > The main mfg. Phyto Pharmica is no longer offering > Indoplex DIM. Their sister company Enzymatic is now > continuing the line and it appears, WHILE THE LABEL NO > LONGER STATES IT IS FOR MEN AND WOMEN, that the formula and > amounts of each ingredient are the same. > > > > However, I used Indoplex/DIM when it was produced > under the green label from PhytoPharmica and I noticed my > coumadin INR level went down into dangerous levels of 1.6 > from 2.3. > > > > I was verbally told over the phone by PhytoPharmica > that there was no vitamin K and that even though > Indoplex/DIM was derived from broccoli/crucfuris plants that > there should be no impact to my coumadin levels. After > having an adverse reaction to Arimidex and before I found > out DIM does not prevent the new production of E2 but > addresses the existing E2, I roled back onto DIM and had the > same experience of having my coumadin INR levels tank. > > > > > What I suspect is that the mfg was being honest, but > overloked the fact that the Indoplex/DIM had a significant > portion of Calcium, which I belive was acting as a binder to > the coumadin thereby lowering my INR level. So in > addition to finding a natural alternative to Arimidex in the > white button mushroom extract, I also found a source of high > grade DIM that is just that DIM and DIM alone. > > > > What I am also noticing is that many mfg's take it on > themselves to augment and enhance their formulas not > realizing that certain sets of patients segments really need > the control of having the purest unaccompanied form of the > med or supplement/alternative being considered in order to > guarantee efficacy and to control any other potential random > variables from confusing and complicating. > > > > Tom U > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Phil - As mentioned phytopharmica is not offering indoplex/dim any longer, their sister company is as Enzymatic, just an fyi. However, the exercise in comparison made me aware of the calcium ingredients in the phytopharmica/enzymatic product, which concerns me since it may act as a binder on my coumadin, etc. That is why I sought out a straight up version of just DIM. I am traveling and will post a link when I get home in a few days. > > > > > > A few couple comments on Indoplex DIM as folows: > > > > > > The main mfg. Phyto Pharmica is no longer offering > > Indoplex DIM. Their sister company Enzymatic is now > > continuing the line and it appears, WHILE THE LABEL NO > > LONGER STATES IT IS FOR MEN AND WOMEN, that the formula and > > amounts of each ingredient are the same. > > > > > > However, I used Indoplex/DIM when it was produced > > under the green label from PhytoPharmica and I noticed my > > coumadin INR level went down into dangerous levels of 1.6 > > from 2.3. > > > > > > I was verbally told over the phone by PhytoPharmica > > that there was no vitamin K and that even though > > Indoplex/DIM was derived from broccoli/crucfuris plants that > > there should be no impact to my coumadin levels. After > > having an adverse reaction to Arimidex and before I found > > out DIM does not prevent the new production of E2 but > > addresses the existing E2, I roled back onto DIM and had the > > same experience of having my coumadin INR levels tank. > > > > > > > > What I suspect is that the mfg was being honest, but > > overloked the fact that the Indoplex/DIM had a significant > > portion of Calcium, which I belive was acting as a binder to > > the coumadin thereby lowering my INR level. So in > > addition to finding a natural alternative to Arimidex in the > > white button mushroom extract, I also found a source of high > > grade DIM that is just that DIM and DIM alone. > > > > > > What I am also noticing is that many mfg's take it on > > themselves to augment and enhance their formulas not > > realizing that certain sets of patients segments really need > > the control of having the purest unaccompanied form of the > > med or supplement/alternative being considered in order to > > guarantee efficacy and to control any other potential random > > variables from confusing and complicating. > > > > > > Tom U > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Thanks Yes give me a link to the DIM By Enzymatic I can't find anything by this Co. that is any good most of what they have with DIM is junk. Co-Moderator Phil > From: tomubl <ubl@...> > Subject: Re: Indoplex DIM > > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 5:15 AM > Phil - As mentioned > phytopharmica is not offering indoplex/dim any longer, their > sister company is as Enzymatic, just an fyi. However, the > exercise in comparison made me aware of the calcium > ingredients in the phytopharmica/enzymatic product, which > concerns me since it may act as a binder on my coumadin, > etc. That is why I sought out a straight up version of > just DIM. > > I am traveling and will post a link when I get home in a > few days. > > > > > > > > > > A few couple comments on Indoplex DIM as > folows: > > > > > > > > The main mfg. Phyto Pharmica is no longer > offering > > > Indoplex DIM. Their sister company Enzymatic is > now > > > continuing the line and it appears, WHILE THE > LABEL NO > > > LONGER STATES IT IS FOR MEN AND WOMEN, that the > formula and > > > amounts of each ingredient are the same. > > > > > > > > However, I used Indoplex/DIM when it was > produced > > > under the green label from PhytoPharmica and I > noticed my > > > coumadin INR level went down into dangerous > levels of 1.6 > > > from 2.3. > > > > > > > > I was verbally told over the phone by > PhytoPharmica > > > that there was no vitamin K and that even though > > > Indoplex/DIM was derived from broccoli/crucfuris > plants that > > > there should be no impact to my coumadin > levels. After > > > having an adverse reaction to Arimidex and before > I found > > > out DIM does not prevent the new production of E2 > but > > > addresses the existing E2, I roled back onto DIM > and had the > > > same experience of having my coumadin INR levels > tank. > > > > > > > > > > > What I suspect is that the mfg was being > honest, but > > > overloked the fact that the Indoplex/DIM had a > significant > > > portion of Calcium, which I belive was acting as > a binder to > > > the coumadin thereby lowering my INR level. So > in > > > addition to finding a natural alternative to > Arimidex in the > > > white button mushroom extract, I also found a > source of high > > > grade DIM that is just that DIM and DIM alone. > > > > > > > > What I am also noticing is that many mfg's > take it on > > > themselves to augment and enhance their formulas > not > > > realizing that certain sets of patients segments > really need > > > the control of having the purest unaccompanied > form of the > > > med or supplement/alternative being considered in > order to > > > guarantee efficacy and to control any other > potential random > > > variables from confusing and complicating. > > > > > > > > Tom U > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 We just ordered and received within the last few weeks the phytopharmica Indoplex/DIM from my vita net. -SC > > > > > > > > A few couple comments on Indoplex DIM as folows: > > > > > > > > The main mfg. Phyto Pharmica is no longer offering > > > Indoplex DIM. Their sister company Enzymatic is now > > > continuing the line and it appears, WHILE THE LABEL NO > > > LONGER STATES IT IS FOR MEN AND WOMEN, that the formula and > > > amounts of each ingredient are the same. > > > > > > > > However, I used Indoplex/DIM when it was produced > > > under the green label from PhytoPharmica and I noticed my > > > coumadin INR level went down into dangerous levels of 1.6 > > > from 2.3. > > > > > > > > I was verbally told over the phone by PhytoPharmica > > > that there was no vitamin K and that even though > > > Indoplex/DIM was derived from broccoli/crucfuris plants that > > > there should be no impact to my coumadin levels. After > > > having an adverse reaction to Arimidex and before I found > > > out DIM does not prevent the new production of E2 but > > > addresses the existing E2, I roled back onto DIM and had the > > > same experience of having my coumadin INR levels tank. > > > > > > > > > > > What I suspect is that the mfg was being honest, but > > > overloked the fact that the Indoplex/DIM had a significant > > > portion of Calcium, which I belive was acting as a binder to > > > the coumadin thereby lowering my INR level. So in > > > addition to finding a natural alternative to Arimidex in the > > > white button mushroom extract, I also found a source of high > > > grade DIM that is just that DIM and DIM alone. > > > > > > > > What I am also noticing is that many mfg's take it on > > > themselves to augment and enhance their formulas not > > > realizing that certain sets of patients segments really need > > > the control of having the purest unaccompanied form of the > > > med or supplement/alternative being considered in order to > > > guarantee efficacy and to control any other potential random > > > variables from confusing and complicating. > > > > > > > > Tom U > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Yes it's still around other guys have posted this at other forums and sent me Emails saying they got it form vitaNet. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jeff_cline2003 <jc2wd@...> > Subject: Re: Indoplex DIM > > Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:53 AM > We just ordered and received within > the last few weeks the phytopharmica Indoplex/DIM from my > vita net. > -SC > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few couple comments on Indoplex DIM > as folows: > > > > > > > > > > The main mfg. Phyto Pharmica is no > longer offering > > > > Indoplex DIM. Their sister company > Enzymatic is now > > > > continuing the line and it appears, WHILE > THE LABEL NO > > > > LONGER STATES IT IS FOR MEN AND WOMEN, that > the formula and > > > > amounts of each ingredient are the same. > > > > > > > > > > However, I used Indoplex/DIM when it > was produced > > > > under the green label from PhytoPharmica and > I noticed my > > > > coumadin INR level went down into dangerous > levels of 1.6 > > > > from 2.3. > > > > > > > > > > I was verbally told over the phone by > PhytoPharmica > > > > that there was no vitamin K and that even > though > > > > Indoplex/DIM was derived from > broccoli/crucfuris plants that > > > > there should be no impact to my coumadin > levels. After > > > > having an adverse reaction to Arimidex and > before I found > > > > out DIM does not prevent the new production > of E2 but > > > > addresses the existing E2, I roled back onto > DIM and had the > > > > same experience of having my coumadin INR > levels tank. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I suspect is that the mfg was > being honest, but > > > > overloked the fact that the Indoplex/DIM had > a significant > > > > portion of Calcium, which I belive was > acting as a binder to > > > > the coumadin thereby lowering my INR > level. So in > > > > addition to finding a natural alternative to > Arimidex in the > > > > white button mushroom extract, I also found > a source of high > > > > grade DIM that is just that DIM and DIM > alone. > > > > > > > > > > What I am also noticing is that many > mfg's take it on > > > > themselves to augment and enhance their > formulas not > > > > realizing that certain sets of patients > segments really need > > > > the control of having the purest > unaccompanied form of the > > > > med or supplement/alternative being > considered in order to > > > > guarantee efficacy and to control any other > potential random > > > > variables from confusing and complicating. > > > > > > > > > > Tom U > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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