Re: Testicle Size, Fertility and HCG/HMG, Secondary Hypo

October 11, 2009

I am Secondary after you read my story you will see how hard it was to find this

out. My testis on TRT were the size of small grapes going on HCG 3 yrs ago my

levels doubled and my testis over the next yr come back up to there normal size.

Most men doing just HCG that are Secondary don't do well on just HCG. I do Depo

Testosterone shows I do them every 3 days and the 2 days each in between I do

HCG. I do this because as fast as I shoot Testosterone the faster my body eats

it up so I need high dose's of Testosterone and doing a big 200 mgs shot every

week drives up my Estradiol levels to dam high. Then high levels give me ED,

Panic attacks, feelings of anxiety, I feel hot and look red on the upper parts

of my body and face and I have sore and hard nipples. So doing my shots of T

every 3 days 80mgs keeps me more leveled and holds down my Estradiol levels and

I have good labs doing this my Total T is up between 750 to 850 I do labs every

8 weeks. So

doing this I don't need to take 1mg of Arimidex every other day I only need

..25mgs or 1/4 of a pill every 2 to 3 days.

I don't feel taking HMG will make your testis any bigger I don't think your HCG

is working right for you I used Noveral when I tried APP brand and one other

compounded brand my levels fell.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: derick_trent <derick_trent@...>

> Subject: Testicle Size, Fertility and HCG/HMG, Secondary Hypo

>

> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 10:10 AM

> I read an excerpt from a medical

> publication that said if you have to take FSH/LH in addition

> to HCG in order to increase testicle size and make you able

> to have children, at some point you can discontinue the

> FSH/LH and just stay on HCG and you'll stay fertile, and I

> assume, maintain testicle size.

>

> Has anyone who is secondary hypo experienced this?

> The HCG hasn't worked for me over the past couple

> years. I have an endo appointment at the end of this

> month and want to discuss it with my doctor.

>

> Thanks

>

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