HCG - Pregnyl or Novarel? Same Stuff? What time do you take?

[Guest guest]

Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me Novarel

instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows. I think

the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a generic

anyways.

I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to substitute, but was

just curious about opinions here.

While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best time of day

to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

[Guest guest]

Novarel should be fine. Take it in the morning.

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>

>

> Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me

Novarel

> instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows.

I think

> the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a

generic

> anyways.

>

> I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to

substitute, but was

> just curious about opinions here.

>

> While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best

time of day

> to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

>

> I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

>

[Guest guest]

I do my shots first thing in the morning so I can injoy the bost it gives me.

Phil

Dave <daultman@...> wrote:

Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me Novarel

instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows. I think

the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a generic

anyways.

I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to substitute, but was

just curious about opinions here.

While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best time of day

to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

[Guest guest]

I don't know about Novarel vs Pregnyl but Novarel does seem to pack more of a

punch then the generic APP in my experience. The point being is it's all

supposed to be the same stuff but some brands seem better than others.

I take my shot in the AM

Dave

Dave <daultman@...> wrote:

Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me Novarel

instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows. I think

the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a generic

anyways.

I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to substitute, but was

just curious about opinions here.

While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best time of day

to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave

If you have access to dale - Pharacopaedia then it usually quotes all

tradenames around the world and certainly those for USA and UK.

This is an extract from the web with equivalent brand names - Novarel,

Ovidrel, Pregnyl, Profasi:

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Generic Name: human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) (injectable) (HUE man core

EYE oh nick go NAH doe tro pin)

Brand Names: Novarel, Ovidrel, Pregnyl, Profasi

____________________________

Pregnyl

This page contains drug information on Pregnyl.

The information provided includes the following:

a.. what is Pregnyl

b.. the possible side effects of Pregnyl

c.. what happens if you miss a dose of Pregnyl

d.. what happens if you overdose with Pregnyl

e.. the most important information about Pregnyl

f.. how to use Pregnyl

g.. other drugs that may affect Pregnyl

h.. what to avoid while using Pregnyl

Generic Name: human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) (injectable) (HUE man

core EYE oh nick go NAH doe tro pin)

Brand Names: Novarel, Ovidrel, Pregnyl, Profasi

What is the most important information I should know about HCG?

. Treatment with HCG increases the likelihood of multiple

births. Multiple births carry additional risk both for the mother and for

the babies.

. A small percentage of female patients treated with HCG have

developed the ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS), especially after the

first cycle of therapy. Symptoms of OHSS include severe pelvic pain,

swelling of the hands or legs, abdominal pain and swelling, shortness of

breath, weight gain, low urine output, diarrhea, and nausea or vomiting.

OHSS can be fatal. Notify your doctor immediately or seek emergency medical

attention if you develop any of these symptoms.

What is HCG?

. Human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) is a naturally occurring

hormone produced by the placenta. HCG supports the normal development of an

egg from the ovary and can induce ovulation. HCG also stimulates the

production of androgens in men and progesterone in women.

. HCG is used to induce of ovulation (the release of an egg from

the ovary) and to assist in getting pregnant. HCG is also used to stimulate

the descent of undescended testicles in boys before puberty and to replace

hormones in males with a pituitary deficiency.

. HCG may also be used for purposes other than those listed in

this medication guide.

What should I discuss with my healthcare provider before using

HCG?

. Do not use HCG without first talking to your doctor if you

· might be pregnant;

· have a thyroid problem;

· have adrenal dysfunction;

· have precocious puberty;

· have cancer or a tumor of the breast, ovary, uterus,

prostate, hypothalamus, or pituitary gland;

· have undiagnosed uterine bleeding;

· have heart disease;

· have kidney disease;

· have epilepsy;

· have migraines; or

· have asthma.

. You may not be able to use HCG, or you may require a dosage

adjustment or special monitoring if you have any of the conditions listed

above.

. Do not use this medication if you are pregnant. HCG is in the

FDA pregnancy category X. This means that HCG is known to cause birth

defects in an unborn baby.

. It is not known whether HCG passes into breast milk. Do not

use HCG without first talking to your doctor if you are breast-feeding a

baby.

How should I use HCG?

. Use HCG exactly as directed by your doctor. If you do not

understand these directions, ask your doctor, nurse, or pharmacist to

explain them to you.

. HCG is administered as an injection. If you are administering

this medication at home, your doctor or healthcare provider will give you

detailed instructions on how to mix the solution and give the injection. Do

not inject this medication if you are not sure how.

. After mixing the Ovidrel solution for injection, use it

immediately.

. Use Profasi within 30 days of mixing and use Pregnyl and

Novarel within 60 days of mixing. Store mixed solutions of Pregnyl, Novarel,

and Profasi in the refrigerator.

. Do not inject any medication that is discolored or that has

particles in it.

. Never reuse a needle or syringe. Dispose of all needles and

syringes in an appropriate, puncture-resistant disposal container.

. Store unmixed HCG at room temperature away from light,

moisture, and heat. Store unmixed Ovidrel at room temperature or in the

refrigerator away from light and moisture.

What happens if I miss a dose?

. Contact your doctor if you miss a dose of HCG.

What happens if I overdose?

. An overdose of HCG is unlikely to threaten life. Notify your

doctor immediately or call an emergency room or poison control left for

advice if an overdose is suspected.

. Symptoms of a HCG overdose are not known.

What should I avoid while using HCG?

. There are no restrictions on food, beverages, or activity

during therapy with HCG unless your doctor directs otherwise.

What are the possible side effects of HCG?

. Stop using HCG and seek emergency medical attention or notify

your doctor immediately if you experience any of the following serious side

effects:

· an allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing of the

throat; swelling of the lips, tongue, or face; or hives);

· pain, warmth, redness, numbness, or tingling in an arm or

leg (which may indicate a blood clot); or

· confusion, severe dizziness, or severe headache (which may

indicate a blood clot in the head).

. A small percentage of female patients treated with HCG have

developed the ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS), especially after the

first cycle of therapy. Symptoms of OHSS include severe pelvic pain,

swelling of the hands or legs, abdominal pain and swelling, shortness of

breath, weight gain, low urine output, diarrhea, and nausea or vomiting.

OHSS can be fatal. Notify your doctor immediately or seek emergency medical

attention if you develop any of these symptoms.

. Other side effects may also occur. Notify your doctor if you

experience

· headache;

· irritability;

· restlessness;

· depression;

· fatigue;

· fluid retention (edema);

· breast tenderness or swelling;

· pain, swelling, or irritation at the injection site;

· early or premature puberty.

. Treatment with HCG increases the likelihood of multiple

births. Multiple births carry additional risk both for the mother and for

the babies.

. Side effects other than those listed here may also occur. Talk

to your doctor about any side effect that seems unusual or that is

especially bothersome.

What other drugs will affect HCG?

. It is not known whether other medications will interact with

HCG. Talk to your doctor and pharmacist before taking any prescription or

over-the-counter medicines, including herbal products.

Where can I get more information?

. Your pharmacist has additional information about HCG written

for health professionals that you may read.

_________________________________________

Randle

_________________________________________

HCG - Pregnyl or Novarel? Same Stuff? What time do

you take?

>

>

> Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me Novarel

> instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows. I

> think

> the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a generic

> anyways.

>

> I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to substitute, but

> was

> just curious about opinions here.

>

> While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best time of

> day

> to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

>

> I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why is novarel only good for a month while pregnyl is good for two?

(according to their info inserts) aren't they the exact same stuff?

>

>

> Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me

Novarel

> instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows.

I think

> the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a

generic

> anyways.

>

> I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to

substitute, but was

> just curious about opinions here.

>

> While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best

time of day

> to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

>

> I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thom's question is exactly what I was going to ask. The APP brand HCG says

to discard after 60 days, the Novarel I just purchased says to discard after

30 days. They have the same diluent and supposedly the same active

ingredient. Doesn't make sense.*

*The only thing I can figure is that Novarel manufacturer didn't do the

clinical testing with stuff more than 30 days old and the others did - BUT -

then why have some posted they " feel " less of a jolt from Novarel after 30

days.

> Re: HCG - Pregnyl or Novarel? Same

>Stuff? What time do you take?

>

>Why is novarel only good for a month while pregnyl is good for two?

>(according to their info inserts) aren't they the exact same stuff?

>

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>>

>>

>> Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me

>Novarel

>> instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows.

>I think

>> the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a

>generic

>> anyways.

>>

>> I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to

>substitute, but was

>> just curious about opinions here.

>>

>> While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best

>time of day

>> to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

>>

>> I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Novarel was made by APP and the water they use is good for 2 months. APP

started to make there own HCG and stoped doing it for Novarel. The new people

that make Novarel use a different water and can't make it last over 30 days.

Yet APP I think that is the name dose not work when I used it.

Phil

thombow <thombow@...> wrote:

Why is novarel only good for a month while pregnyl is good for two?

(according to their info inserts) aren't they the exact same stuff?

>

>

> Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me

Novarel

> instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows.

I think

> the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a

generic

> anyways.

>

> I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to

substitute, but was

> just curious about opinions here.

>

> While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best

time of day

> to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

>

> I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave they are different APP use to make Novarel this was why it use to be good

for 60 days. Now APP makes there own HCG and is using the same water they used

when making Novarel. If you can look at the box of Novarel when APP made it and

compare it to the new Novarel you will see they are different. The water the

new lab uses will not last over 30 days.

Phil

Dave <daultman@...> wrote:

Thom's question is exactly what I was going to ask. The APP brand HCG says

to discard after 60 days, the Novarel I just purchased says to discard after

30 days. They have the same diluent and supposedly the same active

ingredient. Doesn't make sense.*

*The only thing I can figure is that Novarel manufacturer didn't do the

clinical testing with stuff more than 30 days old and the others did - BUT -

then why have some posted they " feel " less of a jolt from Novarel after 30

days.

> Re: HCG - Pregnyl or Novarel? Same

>Stuff? What time do you take?

>

>Why is novarel only good for a month while pregnyl is good for two?

>(according to their info inserts) aren't they the exact same stuff?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> Dr Rx'd Pregnyl for me, but the pharmacy wants to give me

>Novarel

>> instead. Online, they appear to be the same stuff, but who knows.

>I think

>> the last time I got HCG straight from Dr 's pharmacy it was a

>generic

>> anyways.

>>

>> I told them to call the doc and make sure it was okay to

>substitute, but was

>> just curious about opinions here.

>>

>> While we're discussing HCG, anyone have any opinions as to best

>time of day

>> to take the stuff, or is it irrelevant?

>>

>> I'll be doing 250iu on days 5 and 6 of my 7 day Test Cyp rotation.

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