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Hi Tom,

What sized needle? I use 28ga and have never experienced this.

Neil

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> I am very careful to make sure there is no air bubbles and take my

> time injecting. I sink a 2 inch needle at least 1.5 inches into my

> quad and no matter if i bunch up skin to shift it over the injection

> area it always seems that some of the T flows out of the puncture area

> before I can get a band aid on it. It isn't much that backs out, but

> I thought I should ask if this is normal and if there is something I

> can do to stop the back flow.....

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tom U

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Tom- this actually is pretty common and may happen with most injections

but the amount is so small as you said that it isn't noticible or mixes

with blood and becomes difficult to identify that it has happened. You

can decrease the amount and likihood with a couple of tricks. Try two

things; first leave a small air bubble at the back of the syringe so

that the bubble is at the end of the injection and inject it completely

in. This works best but you can also use the zigzag technique. In this

you pull the skin over a bit before injecting so that it isn't a

straight line into the muscle. Using both decreases back flow to the

point it isn't noticible.

trannyboy

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neil - 21.5 gauge x 2 inch. will try smaller and see if i get the

same result. i thought it kinda looked like a harpoon!

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> > I am very careful to make sure there is no air bubbles and take my

> > time injecting. I sink a 2 inch needle at least 1.5 inches into my

> > quad and no matter if i bunch up skin to shift it over the injection

> > area it always seems that some of the T flows out of the puncture area

> > before I can get a band aid on it. It isn't much that backs out, but

> > I thought I should ask if this is normal and if there is something I

> > can do to stop the back flow.....

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Tom U

> >

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trannyboy - i sorts tried the pull the skin over, but my quads are so

tight not much to move over...ill keep tryin gthat with combo of

bubble....be well...........tom u

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> Tom- this actually is pretty common and may happen with most injections

> but the amount is so small as you said that it isn't noticible or mixes

> with blood and becomes difficult to identify that it has happened. You

> can decrease the amount and likihood with a couple of tricks. Try two

> things; first leave a small air bubble at the back of the syringe so

> that the bubble is at the end of the injection and inject it completely

> in. This works best but you can also use the zigzag technique. In this

> you pull the skin over a bit before injecting so that it isn't a

> straight line into the muscle. Using both decreases back flow to the

> point it isn't noticible.

>

> trannyboy

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My doctor originally Rx'ed 22ga needles. After shooting myself twice

with those spikes, and dragging my sore leg around, I switched to

something smaller. I knew I had to switch because I was in so much dread

of the next shot.....

Neil

tomubl wrote:

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> neil - 21.5 gauge x 2 inch. will try smaller and see if i get the

> same result. i thought it kinda looked like a harpoon!

>

>

> > >

> > > I am very careful to make sure there is no air bubbles and take my

> > > time injecting. I sink a 2 inch needle at least 1.5 inches into my

> > > quad and no matter if i bunch up skin to shift it over the injection

> > > area it always seems that some of the T flows out of the puncture area

> > > before I can get a band aid on it. It isn't much that backs out, but

> > > I thought I should ask if this is normal and if there is something I

> > > can do to stop the back flow.....

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Tom U

> > >

> > >

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Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch!!!

I use a 1/2 inch 27 g needle to inject and a large one to draw in the

testosterone. I press in the needle until it's all the way in and then

push a 1/4 inch farther (denting the skin/flesh) to make sure I'm well

into the muscle. Never had a leakage problem ever. In 7 or so years of

injecting, I've never drawn blood when pulling back on the syringe

although the injection site bleeds a little perhaps once a month.

Steve

tomubl wrote:

> neil - 21.5 gauge x 2 inch. will try smaller and see if i get the

> same result. i thought it kinda looked like a harpoon!

>

>

>>> I am very careful to make sure there is no air bubbles and take my

>>> time injecting. I sink a 2 inch needle at least 1.5 inches into my

>>> quad and no matter if i bunch up skin to shift it over the injection

>>> area it always seems that some of the T flows out of the puncture area

>>> before I can get a band aid on it. It isn't much that backs out, but

>>> I thought I should ask if this is normal and if there is something I

>>> can do to stop the back flow.....

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>>

>>> Tom U

>

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Your using way too big of a needle. Drop down to something smaller like a 28g

and 5/8 " . Unless you have a lot of fat deposited that requires that long of a

needle.

 

Arkansas

From: tomubl <ubl@...>

Subject: Injection Back Flow

Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 6:48 PM

I am very careful to make sure there is no air bubbles and take my

time injecting. I sink a 2 inch needle at least 1.5 inches into my

quad and no matter if i bunch up skin to shift it over the injection

area it always seems that some of the T flows out of the puncture area

before I can get a band aid on it. It isn't much that backs out, but

I thought I should ask if this is normal and if there is something I

can do to stop the back flow.....

Thanks,

Tom U

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Ark, if I had that much fat I would be a manatee.

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> time injecting. I sink a 2 inch needle at least 1.5 inches into my

> quad and no matter if i bunch up skin to shift it over the injection

> area it always seems that some of the T flows out of the puncture area

> before I can get a band aid on it. It isn't much that backs out, but

> I thought I should ask if this is normal and if there is something I

> can do to stop the back flow.....

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> Thanks,

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> Tom U

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Steve, I was thinking the same thing with regards toouch. However,

since I have Hemachromotosis and Iron Overlaod condition they use 16

gauge, which looks like a freakin hooka tube and I have given over 30

pints of blood in 14 months. Now down to 3-4 times a year, but 16

gauge suck. I welcomed the 21 gauge!

I'll keep drawing with the 21 and go to a 27 or 28 to shoot with.

Thanks to you dan and tranny appreciate the advice.........

> >>> I am very careful to make sure there is no air bubbles and take my

> >>> time injecting. I sink a 2 inch needle at least 1.5 inches into my

> >>> quad and no matter if i bunch up skin to shift it over the injection

> >>> area it always seems that some of the T flows out of the

puncture area

> >>> before I can get a band aid on it. It isn't much that backs out, but

> >>> I thought I should ask if this is normal and if there is something I

> >>> can do to stop the back flow.....

> >>>

> >>> Thanks,

> >>>

> >>> Tom U

> >

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I used 21g 1.5 inch needle to inject for the entire 9 years I gave my

shots and the majority of the time I had no soreness or problems. While

you can use a smaller needle you can also use a larger one. The only

difference would be possibly pain and the speed at which you inject. In

fact nearly every person I know uses 21g 1.5 inch to inject. I don't

know I guess I never saw it as that big a deal.

trannyboy

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> I used 21g 1.5 inch needle to inject for the entire 9 years I gave

> my shots and the majority of the time I had no soreness or problems.

> While you can use a smaller needle you can also use a larger one.

> The only difference would be possibly pain and the speed at which

> you inject. In fact nearly every person I know uses 21g 1.5 inch to

> inject. I don't know I guess I never saw it as that big a deal.

Hi,

I'd have thought the most common was a 25g*1 (though I often DRAW with

a slightly larger needle... I order bundles of 23g*1 with an equal

number of 25g*1 needles... I'm one of those guys that wants a SHARP

point).

I was going to put up a poll to see just that... put polls aren't

available in this group.

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I use, sorry, My wife uses a 22g to draw up the shot and a 25g to inject.

The 25g has less scaring IMHO.

Steve

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:23 AM, jbbooks1901 <jbbooks1901@...> wrote:

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> >

> > I used 21g 1.5 inch needle to inject for the entire 9 years I gave

> > my shots and the majority of the time I had no soreness or problems.

> > While you can use a smaller needle you can also use a larger one.

> > The only difference would be possibly pain and the speed at which

> > you inject. In fact nearly every person I know uses 21g 1.5 inch to

> > inject. I don't know I guess I never saw it as that big a deal.

>

> Hi,

>

> I'd have thought the most common was a 25g*1 (though I often DRAW with

> a slightly larger needle... I order bundles of 23g*1 with an equal

> number of 25g*1 needles... I'm one of those guys that wants a SHARP

> point).

>

> I was going to put up a poll to see just that... put polls aren't

> available in this group.

>

>

>

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