Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Assuming estradiol is your problem, you could be taking too much DIM, as too little estrogen is as bad as too much estrogen. Phil has spoken to this many times. Look back in the archives of this group. Remember DIM does not reduce estrogen, it influences how the liver decides to metabolize it, in the direction of health estrogens, as opposed to harmful, cancer-causing estrogens. If you are under a doctor's care, you should only be taking this stuff under his/her direction. Chris --- jack <myhormonez@...> wrote: > Guys please forgive me for posting so much and at times not clear but > I would like to think you understand my situation. That said done. > > Now to my point am I exepecting too much from dim or what? I have > been > taking it for five days now no morning wood as of yet. But if I > started my self I guess is okay. > > Second question I take calcium 1500w/vitaminD so does that interact > because I am getting unusally letergic,no motivation,emotionally > weemp > like lady feel like crying for no apperent reason I remember reading > some post like that so how should I handle it untill next appointment > or do I have to emergency. Thanks Jack > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Hi phil and all and thank you for the note and suggestion going back to phil's question I am taking DIm you get from rite care pharamcey. See I have sleep problem too so It is hard to know what happens at night but in the early hours I fell like it is kind of hard and if I touch my self more I would think it will last have not tried yet but will heck got to find out. Thanks jack ypogonadism2 , philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: > > Jack what kind of DIM are you taking and what is the dose. Men get wood in about 2 weeks if your E2 is real high it can take the full 2 weeks. But if your not to high and you take to much then you can go down so fast you will miss the morning wood now morning wood does not mean you have it first thing in the morning when you wake. It is the wood you get all night long some don't have it when they wake. But when you get it and your E2 is in the Zone it will be so hard it wakes you up. > > jack <myhormonez@...> wrote: Guys please forgive me for posting so much and at times not clear but > I would like to think you understand my situation. That said done. > > Now to my point am I exepecting too much from dim or what? I have been > taking it for five days now no morning wood as of yet. But if I > started my self I guess is okay. > > Second question I take calcium 1500w/vitaminD so does that interact > because I am getting unusally letergic,no motivation,emotionally weemp > like lady feel like crying for no apperent reason I remember reading > some post like that so how should I handle it untill next appointment > or do I have to emergency. Thanks Jack > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " > Phil > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 It sounds like the Indolplex/DIM is working. jack <myhormonez@...> wrote: Hi phil and all and thank you for the note and suggestion going back to phil's question I am taking DIm you get from rite care pharamcey. See I have sleep problem too so It is hard to know what happens at night but in the early hours I fell like it is kind of hard and if I touch my self more I would think it will last have not tried yet but will heck got to find out. Thanks jack ypogonadism2 , philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: > > Jack what kind of DIM are you taking and what is the dose. Men get wood in about 2 weeks if your E2 is real high it can take the full 2 weeks. But if your not to high and you take to much then you can go down so fast you will miss the morning wood now morning wood does not mean you have it first thing in the morning when you wake. It is the wood you get all night long some don't have it when they wake. But when you get it and your E2 is in the Zone it will be so hard it wakes you up. > > jack <myhormonez@...> wrote: Guys please forgive me for posting so much and at times not clear but > I would like to think you understand my situation. That said done. > > Now to my point am I exepecting too much from dim or what? I have been > taking it for five days now no morning wood as of yet. But if I > started my self I guess is okay. > > Second question I take calcium 1500w/vitaminD so does that interact > because I am getting unusally letergic,no motivation,emotionally weemp > like lady feel like crying for no apperent reason I remember reading > some post like that so how should I handle it untill next appointment > or do I have to emergency. Thanks Jack > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " > Phil > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Hi Phil THANKS A LOT SURE IT IS WORKING GREAT !!! so keep going like taking the same dose right. On the other side I read that high E2 in men protect them from any caridac what is that all about? shed some light please again Thanks. In , philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: > > It sounds like the Indolplex/DIM is working. > > jack <myhormonez@...> wrote: Hi phil and all and thank you for the note and suggestion going > back to phil's question I am taking DIm you get from rite care pharamcey. > See I have sleep problem too so It is hard to know what happens at > night but in the early hours I fell like it is kind of hard and if I > touch my self more I would think it will last have not tried yet but > will heck got to find out. Thanks jack > > ypogonadism2 , philip georgian <pmgamer18@> wrote: > > > > Jack what kind of DIM are you taking and what is the dose. Men get > wood in about 2 weeks if your E2 is real high it can take the full 2 > weeks. But if your not to high and you take to much then you can go > down so fast you will miss the morning wood now morning wood does not > mean you have it first thing in the morning when you wake. It is the > wood you get all night long some don't have it when they wake. But > when you get it and your E2 is in the Zone it will be so hard it wakes > you up. > > > > jack <myhormonez@> wrote: Guys please forgive me > for posting so much and at times not clear but > > I would like to think you understand my situation. That said done. > > > > Now to my point am I exepecting too much from dim or what? I have been > > taking it for five days now no morning wood as of yet. But if I > > started my self I guess is okay. > > > > Second question I take calcium 1500w/vitaminD so does that interact > > because I am getting unusally letergic,no motivation,emotionally weemp > > like lady feel like crying for no apperent reason I remember reading > > some post like that so how should I handle it untill next appointment > > or do I have to emergency. Thanks Jack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what > you see. " > > Phil > > > > --------------------------------- > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Hi Jack yes keep taking it but if you lose wood this is the gauge I use to tell me I am going to low on E2. So if you lose wood stop taking it until wood comes back then that day go back on it but cut the tablet in half. I never heard high E2 was good for anything do you have a link. Hi Phil THANKS A LOT SURE IT IS WORKING GREAT !!! so keep going like taking the same dose right. On the other side I read that high E2 in men protect them from any caridac what is that all about? shed some light please again Thanks. In , philip georgian wrote: > > It sounds like the Indolplex/DIM is working. > > jack wrote: Hi phil and all and thank you for the note and suggestion going > back to phil's question I am taking DIm you get from rite care pharamcey. > See I have sleep problem too so It is hard to know what happens at > night but in the early hours I fell like it is kind of hard and if I > touch my self more I would think it will last have not tried yet but > will heck got to find out. Thanks jack > > ypogonadism2 , philip georgian wrote: > > > > Jack what kind of DIM are you taking and what is the dose. Men get > wood in about 2 weeks if your E2 is real high it can take the full 2 > weeks. But if your not to high and you take to much then you can go > down so fast you will miss the morning wood now morning wood does not > mean you have it first thing in the morning when you wake. It is the > wood you get all night long some don't have it when they wake. But > when you get it and your E2 is in the Zone it will be so hard it wakes > you up. > > > > jack wrote: Guys please forgive me > for posting so much and at times not clear but > > I would like to think you understand my situation. That said done. > > > > Now to my point am I exepecting too much from dim or what? I have been > > taking it for five days now no morning wood as of yet. But if I > > started my self I guess is okay. > > > > Second question I take calcium 1500w/vitaminD so does that interact > > because I am getting unusally letergic,no motivation,emotionally weemp > > like lady feel like crying for no apperent reason I remember reading > > some post like that so how should I handle it untill next appointment > > or do I have to emergency. Thanks Jack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what > you see. " > > Phil > > > > --------------------------------- > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I am a long time lurker and sometime poster. I just received the results of my latest blood test. Drawn 12/01/08 Reported 12/15/08 Testosterone, Free, Bio and Total, LC/MS/MS Testosterone Total 1103 (H) Ranger 250-1100 ng/dl Testosterone Free 185.3 Range 46.0-224.0 pg/ml Testosterone,Bioavaliaable 381.0 Range 110.0-575.0 ng/dl SHBG 32 Range 17-54 nmol/L Albumin, Serum 4.5 Range 3.6-5.1 g/dl Estradoil, Untrasensitive; Not enough blood resubmit Drawn 12/16/08 Reported 12/24/08 Estradiol, Ultrasensitive 47 H Range < or = 29 Lab was Quest Diagnostic I did not get my T shot today, the doctor is out of town and the nurse said she could not give it to me with the High T and E2. The doctor will be back Monday. I figured my E2 was high from the symptoms. I get 400mg shot of T every 10 days. 6 months ago my T was 450 and doctor increased shot to 400mg from 300mg. The last E2 test I had was about a year ago and it was 24 but not the ultrasensitive. Note these test and shots are done by my primary care doctor(PCP). My local urologist at the time would only test Total T. If I remember right Phil had a medication and formula for treating E2. Does anyone have that information. Hope Phil gets well soon!!! I can not tell from penile responce if E2 meds are working (night time wood) because I have been 100% impotent for about 3 years because of Low Testosterone, Peyronies, ED, Venous Leakage and Corporal Fibrosis. After fighting heart and other problems I finally got my implant 10/23/08 from Vanderbilt. My PCP is very open, any suggestions as to how to treat the E2? Thanks Jack PS Phil get well soon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Xian I have a penile implant how will I know when I reach the wood levels without an implant? Jack > > > > I am a long time lurker and sometime poster. I just received the > > results of my latest blood test. > > Drawn 12/01/08 > > Reported 12/15/08 > > Testosterone, Free, Bio and Total, LC/MS/MS > > Testosterone Total 1103 (H) Ranger 250-1100 ng/dl > > Testosterone Free 185.3 Range 46.0-224.0 pg/ml > > Testosterone,Bioavaliaable 381.0 Range 110.0-575.0 ng/dl > > SHBG 32 Range 17-54 nmol/L > > Albumin, Serum 4.5 Range 3.6-5.1 g/dl > > Estradoil, Untrasensitive; Not enough blood resubmit > > > > Drawn 12/16/08 > > Reported 12/24/08 > > Estradiol, Ultrasensitive 47 H Range < or = 29 > > Lab was Quest Diagnostic > > > > I did not get my T shot today, the doctor is out of town and the > > nurse said she could not give it to me with the High T and E2. The > > doctor will be back Monday. > > > > I figured my E2 was high from the symptoms. I get 400mg shot of T > > every 10 days. 6 months ago my T was 450 and doctor increased shot to > > 400mg from 300mg. The last E2 test I had was about a year ago and it > > was 24 but not the ultrasensitive. Note these test and shots are done > > by my primary care doctor(PCP). My local urologist at the time would > > only test Total T. > > > > If I remember right Phil had a medication and formula for treating > > E2. Does anyone have that information. Hope Phil gets well soon!!! > > I can not tell from penile responce if E2 meds are working (night > > time wood) because I have been 100% impotent for about 3 years > > because of Low Testosterone, Peyronies, ED, Venous Leakage and > > Corporal Fibrosis. After fighting heart and other problems I finally > > got my implant 10/23/08 from Vanderbilt. > > > > My PCP is very open, any suggestions as to how to treat the E2? > > > > Thanks > > Jack > > > > PS Phil get well soon!!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hi Jack, I'm not familiar with the Rite Aid house brand, but Nature's Way DIM+ is really good stuff! -Mike > > Somewhere in the back of my mind Phil had an OTC drug for High E2 that > was available from Rite Aid. > Anyone remember this and/or have that information. > Thanks > Jack > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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