Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Good One Tim, glad to see you still have a sense of humor after your recent disappointment. Don't give up the fight, your regimen sounds as good as anyone elses, especially your diet. Like I said before, we are pretty much all guinea pigs when we go the 'alternate' route. But if you go conventional, you might as well walk the gangplank and become guinea pigs for the drug industry. Been down that path too many times. I think one of the biggest obstacles we face is there's 'too much information" and since none of it is regulated, we're pretty much left to sift through the maze and hopefully pick a plan (or in my case, 2 or 3) that works for us. Dr Zhang's TCM seems to work for some. I've learned a couple new small additions since just joining this group: Lactoferrin Plus (an active ingredient with colostrum) and one of your personal favorites, Oxymatrine, from Alchemist Lab. This one hasn't arrived yet, but I'll heed your words and go easy on it to start off with. If and when I ever kill this demon, I won't have a clue as to what actually did the trick, Lloyd , the diet, the juicing, the teas, the tweaking here or there. But you know what, I really don't care as long as it works. But I'll have my spread sheets documented to share if and when. A couple nights ago, I was at work and started to think, "man I'm feeling good and all this energy, there must be something wrong". Maybe my blood pressure is high, so I stopped in the local drug store, got on the machine, 127/76 perfect!!! I can assure you, I never felt like that with any of my numerous rounds of interferon treatments. take care, 'rocket' ron Hillbilly Tim <knoxweb1@...> wrote: hey ron keep me posted on how your doing and results.it sounds intresting but it sounds a lil scary as well.i hope you dont over due it and shoot off to the moon with flames coming out your rear. {lol}we will then have to call you rocket ron . ron bowman <bowm04 > wrote: I've been doing some research, which for me can be a dangerous thing, about food-grade hydrogen peroxide. I'm considering adding it to my arsenal of alternative bullets to fight the demon. I'm slowly just dipping my toes in the water with this, just 4 drops to a half-pint or so distilled water, no adverse effects as yet. Here's a site explaining how it works and its benefits: http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml Anyone out there familiar with this concept? r.e.b. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Tim Parsons knoxville,tn 37931 865-588-2465 x107 work www.knoxville1.com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 > > Hi to Bee and everyone, I have been able to find in mexico food grade hydrogen peroxide (imported from the US) 16oz bottle but its 12% not 35%, would this be ok for me to buy? ==>Leonardo, it sounds like it would be okay. It would definitely be better than the drug store type. Use it very cautiously my friend. Ensure you read the 1st article in the H202 Folder first. The best to you, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 > > > > Hi to Bee and everyone, I have been able to find in mexico food grade > hydrogen peroxide (imported from the US) 16oz bottle but its 12% not > 35%, would this be ok for me to buy? > > ==>Leonardo, it sounds like it would be okay. It would definitely be > better than the drug store type. Use it very cautiously my friend. > Ensure you read the 1st article in the H202 Folder first. > > The best to you, Bee > Sure and thanks for your reply. Best regards, Leonardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 > > Someone told me putting hydrogen peroxide on acne would help it big > time anyone know aything about this > ==>Hi Jack. Yes it can help because it oxygenates and cleans the pores of the skin. I don't know if I'd agree it helps big time, but I know coconut oil helps big time. I recommend alternating them, but be very cautious about using H202 near your eyes, and do not let it get on your eyebrows and hair. The ideal H202 is Food Grade 35% Aqueous, which must be diluted to 3% to use for any purpose - see the Hydrogen Peroxide Folder for more information. And be very cautious about using H202. What helps acne the most is my diet plus supplements. But treatments can assist. The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I asked my Dr. about doing this and he told me not to drink hydrogen peroxide but I use it alot for brushing my tongue (thrush) and I put my toothbrushes in it to clean them. I too would also like to know if anyone is drinking it and if it works!! I will drink it it it will heal me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! halfoffparts <john@...> wrote: My father is seeing a well known and respected surgeon in Michigan and came down with a cold the day before surgery. The doctor met with him the next day and told him about what he practices. When he feels he is coming down with a cold, he puts a small amount of hydrogen peroxide in a dixie cup and fills the rest with water and drinks it twice in the day. For the next 7 days he gargles with a hydrogen peroxide solution. He has not had a cold for 50 years. He told my father it is not a bad idea for me to do with the Candida either. Any feedback on doing this? Thanks - --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Hi ..my partner and I are doing the clark parasite cleanse. She is a little more diligent and is zapping full time and taking hydrogen peroxide. She found a thirty five percent 'food grade' product and then diluted a small portion to a three percent mix. Initially she's been working on three drops with a glass of water and is now up to ten...and takes bathes with the higher levels. Surprizingly she is getting night sweats and worm like die off in her stools so something is working Check out hydrogen peroxide with curezone as it is something you don't want to mess around with mistakenly...also avoid the general hyd.p. for cuts etc. as it is full of preservatives. Willem j h wrote: > I asked my Dr. about doing this and he told me not to drink hydrogen peroxide but I use it alot for brushing my tongue (thrush) and I put my toothbrushes in it to clean them. I too would also like to know if anyone is drinking it and if it works!! I will drink it it it will heal me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > halfoffparts <john@...> wrote: > My father is seeing a well known and respected surgeon in Michigan and > came down with a cold the day before surgery. The doctor met with him > the next day and told him about what he practices. When he feels he > is coming down with a cold, he puts a small amount of hydrogen > peroxide in a dixie cup and fills the rest with water and drinks it > twice in the day. For the next 7 days he gargles with a hydrogen > peroxide solution. He has not had a cold for 50 years. He told my > father it is not a bad idea for me to do with the Candida either. > > Any feedback on doing this? > > Thanks - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 jh I HAVE A B-I-L THAT DRINKS A FEW DROPS EVERY DAY . i TRIED IT BUT HATED THE TAste .. I use it for brushing my teeth and tongue every day and don't rinse I just let what goes down the throat go. BUT I only use 35% food grade not the drug store stuff . mine has to be diluted 1-11 . there are books on it and they say to drink it but start slow 1 drop a day then 2 and on up to 10 I beleive not all at once and definetly with a glass of water. Jo -------------- Original message -------------- From: j h <jl_life@...> I asked my Dr. about doing this and he told me not to drink hydrogen peroxide but I use it alot for brushing my tongue (thrush) and I put my toothbrushes in it to clean them. I too would also like to know if anyone is drinking it and if it works!! I will drink it it it will heal me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! halfoffparts <john@...> wrote: My father is seeing a well known and respected surgeon in Michigan and came down with a cold the day before surgery. The doctor met with him the next day and told him about what he practices. When he feels he is coming down with a cold, he puts a small amount of hydrogen peroxide in a dixie cup and fills the rest with water and drinks it twice in the day. For the next 7 days he gargles with a hydrogen peroxide solution. He has not had a cold for 50 years. He told my father it is not a bad idea for me to do with the Candida either. Any feedback on doing this? Thanks - --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Hi All, I regularly place a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in my ears - especially when I feel a cold coming on. Try it. if you have anything going on in there, you will hear a lot of popping and hissing and such. After five minutes or so, let it drain out. I use this in conjunction with using the Neti pot for my sinuses...no colds for a LOOOOOONG time... Jo --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Answers and get answers from real people who know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 - Can you find out the info for the source of the good stuff? That would help to save me some searching. Thank you - > > My father is seeing a well known and respected surgeon in Michigan and > > came down with a cold the day before surgery. The doctor met with him > > the next day and told him about what he practices. When he feels he > > is coming down with a cold, he puts a small amount of hydrogen > > peroxide in a dixie cup and fills the rest with water and drinks it > > twice in the day. For the next 7 days he gargles with a hydrogen > > peroxide solution. He has not had a cold for 50 years. He told my > > father it is not a bad idea for me to do with the Candida either. > > > > Any feedback on doing this? > > > > Thanks - > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I believe you can find food grade hydrogen peroxide at many pharmacies. Our health food store happened to have some. halfoffparts wrote: > - > > Can you find out the info for the source of the good stuff? That > would help to save me some searching. > > Thank you - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 , I have heard that hydrogen peroxide H2O2 has more oxygen in it than water H2O, and it's this extra oxygen molecule that fuels cells to be more efficient in every way. Hence the better health. I have even heard of H2O2 being given by IV in other countries. > > > My father is seeing a well known and respected surgeon in Michigan and > came down with a cold the day before surgery. The doctor met with him > the next day and told him about what he practices. When he feels he > is coming down with a cold, he puts a small amount of hydrogen > peroxide in a dixie cup and fills the rest with water and drinks it > twice in the day. For the next 7 days he gargles with a hydrogen > peroxide solution. He has not had a cold for 50 years. He told my > father it is not a bad idea for me to do with the Candida either. > > Any feedback on doing this? > > Thanks - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 My sister did IV drip therapy here in the US (at least until the doc that did it left this country and went back to South America). She said it did wonders for her... cleaned out the whole works. She had to take really intensive probiotics along with these treatments to ensure the re-growth of good bacteria. She also said all the other people there taking treatment were MDs with cancer, who were giving their own patients chemo whilst taking IV peroxide drips themselves... no surprise to her as she is in med school and sees right through all the hypocrisy. There is also the food-grade hydrogen peroxide available that some people take. This is good for cancer and for cleaning out things like candida overgrowth. Alison :-) > > > > > > My father is seeing a well known and respected surgeon in Michigan > and > > came down with a cold the day before surgery. The doctor met with > him > > the next day and told him about what he practices. When he feels > he > > is coming down with a cold, he puts a small amount of hydrogen > > peroxide in a dixie cup and fills the rest with water and drinks it > > twice in the day. For the next 7 days he gargles with a hydrogen > > peroxide solution. He has not had a cold for 50 years. He told my > > father it is not a bad idea for me to do with the Candida either. > > > > Any feedback on doing this? > > > > Thanks - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Sounds interesting. Definitely something I would need a health practitioner to administer and monitor. The trouble is always finding the right people. (and having large amounts of cash). Sounds like the food grade starting with a few drops a day would be the place to start with this. > > > > > > > > > My father is seeing a well known and respected surgeon in Michigan > > and > > > came down with a cold the day before surgery. The doctor met with > > him > > > the next day and told him about what he practices. When he feels > > he > > > is coming down with a cold, he puts a small amount of hydrogen > > > peroxide in a dixie cup and fills the rest with water and drinks it > > > twice in the day. For the next 7 days he gargles with a hydrogen > > > peroxide solution. He has not had a cold for 50 years. He told my > > > father it is not a bad idea for me to do with the Candida either. > > > > > > Any feedback on doing this? > > > > > > Thanks - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I have a friend who tried it and she said it zapped her sugar cravings. Makes me want to try it, but I'm in the same boat - it sounds " too much " for me. Marla On 3/3/07, Deb Comcast <deborah.harper@...> wrote: > > Wondering if anyone has tried the hydrogen peroxide therapy and if so did > it help? I would like to try it, but it sounds alittle scary. > Deb > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 > > I have a friend who tried it and she said it zapped her sugar cravings. Makes me want to try it, but I'm in the same boat - it sounds " too much " for me. > ==>Hi Marla. Remember that megadoses of vitamin C increases the body's production of hydrogen peroxide too. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Hi Bee, " Ding, Ding, Ding! " That's the little bell going off in my head - lightbulb moment! Because C is also supposed to help with the sugar cravings! So that all comes together with my friend's reduction in sugar cravings with hydrogen peroxide. Thanks! Marla > ==>Hi Marla. Remember that megadoses of vitamin C increases the body's > production of hydrogen peroxide too. > > Luv, Bee > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 > > Hi Bee, > > " Ding, Ding, Ding! " That's the little bell going off in my head - lightbulb moment! Because C is also supposed to help with the sugar cravings! So that all comes together with my friend's reduction in sugar cravings with hydrogen peroxide. ==>I think you've got it Marla! LOL! The body produces a number of substances that we don't realize it does: 1) Nitric oxide is produced in the nose when we breath through it (humming increases its production), as well as exercise. It is a substance that does a variety of important jobs in the body, perhaps none more valuable than to help prevent heart disease. " Nitric oxide does a variety of jobs, " explains Dr. of Duke University. " . . . it helps prevent your arteries from becoming clogged. Antioxidants like vitamins A and C [as well as other antioxidants, i.e. garlic, oil of oregano, clove, etc.] prevent the breakdown (oxidation) of nitric oxide in the body. 2) Bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) is produced by the pancreas to neutralize stomach acids in the chyme (mixture of food, water & stomach acids); the higher the stomach acid the more it stimulates bicarb of soda production, which is important for digestion. 3) Niacin is produced in a healthy large colon. To name just a few. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 > > Ive recently started the hydrogen peroxide therapy. Is it ok to do it > along with coconut oil and oregano oil at the same time as hydrogen > peroxide is an anti fungal as well and bee says not to do more than 2 > at once. ==>No, you do not want to use too many antifungals at one time. Candida is not cured by killing it off, although it helps to reduce the number of colonies with antifungals. But taking too many antifungals at one time is not going to speed up your cure and it just pushes your body too hard. At any one time you should only be taking coconut oil, getting up to a maximum of 6 tlbs. per day before you add only " one other antifungal " like raw garlic, oil of oregano or clove oil. Taking more will not increase your progress, and it just overwhelms your body. ==>The only way to cure candida is to build up the immune system with nutrients (diet + supplements) so it will become strong enough to " make " candida change back into the friendly organism it is supposed to be in the body. That takes time, patience, and persistence in giving your body the nutrients it requires, and also by eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida. > > Also what is more effective at killing candida. Hydrogen peroxide enema or a garlic tea enema? ==>It is a good idea to use hydrogen peroxide (H202) in an enema. H202 is extremely potent and must be used extremely cautiously. Too much will be poisonous! Use garlic tea instead. Also I recommend doing coffee enemas to help your body detoxify. The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I meant to write that it is NOT a good idea to use H202 in an enema. Sorry Bee > > > > Ive recently started the hydrogen peroxide therapy. Is it ok to do it > > along with coconut oil and oregano oil at the same time as hydrogen > > peroxide is an anti fungal as well and bee says not to do more than 2 > > at once. > > ==>No, you do not want to use too many antifungals at one time. > Candida is not cured by killing it off, although it helps to reduce the > number of colonies with antifungals. But taking too many antifungals > at one time is not going to speed up your cure and it just pushes your > body too hard. At any one time you should only be taking coconut oil, > getting up to a maximum of 6 tlbs. per day before you add only " one > other antifungal " like raw garlic, oil of oregano or clove oil. Taking > more will not increase your progress, and it just overwhelms your body. > > ==>The only way to cure candida is to build up the immune system with > nutrients (diet + supplements) so it will become strong enough > to " make " candida change back into the friendly organism it is supposed > to be in the body. That takes time, patience, and persistence in > giving your body the nutrients it requires, and also by eliminating > toxins and foods that feed candida. > > > > Also what is more effective at killing candida. Hydrogen peroxide > enema or a garlic tea enema? > > ==>It is a good idea to use hydrogen peroxide (H202) in an enema. H202 > is extremely potent and must be used extremely cautiously. Too much > will be poisonous! Use garlic tea instead. Also I recommend doing > coffee enemas to help your body detoxify. > > The best, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I think what Bee meant to say is: That it is not a good idea to use hydrogen peroxide (H202) in an anema. Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: ==>It is a good idea to use hydrogen peroxide (H202) in an enema. H202 is extremely potent and must be used extremely cautiously. Too much will be poisonous! Use garlic tea instead. Also I recommend doing coffee enemas to help your body detoxify. The best, Bee Recent Activity 29 New Members 2 New Photos 2 New Files Visit Your Group Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on . Sitebuilder Build a web site quickly & easily with Sitebuilder. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 > > > > Ive recently started the hydrogen peroxide therapy. Is it ok to do it > > along with coconut oil and oregano oil at the same time as hydrogen > > peroxide is an anti fungal as well and bee says not to do more than 2 > > at once. > > ==>No, you do not want to use too many antifungals at one time. > Candida is not cured by killing it off, although it helps to reduce the > number of colonies with antifungals. But taking too many antifungals > at one time is not going to speed up your cure and it just pushes your > body too hard. At any one time you should only be taking coconut oil, > getting up to a maximum of 6 tlbs. per day before you add only " one > other antifungal " like raw garlic, oil of oregano or clove oil. Taking > more will not increase your progress, and it just overwhelms your body. > > ==>The only way to cure candida is to build up the immune system with > nutrients (diet + supplements) so it will become strong enough > to " make " candida change back into the friendly organism it is supposed > to be in the body. That takes time, patience, and persistence in > giving your body the nutrients it requires, and also by eliminating > toxins and foods that feed candida. > > > > Also what is more effective at killing candida. Hydrogen peroxide > enema or a garlic tea enema? > > ==>It is a good idea to use hydrogen peroxide (H202) in an enema. H202 > is extremely potent and must be used extremely cautiously. Too much > will be poisonous! Use garlic tea instead. Also I recommend doing > coffee enemas to help your body detoxify. > > The best, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 > Hi thanks for your reply bee > im still a bit confused > > So your saying i should just stick to the hydrogen peroxide and 6 > tablespoons of coconut oil and stop the oil of oregano for now till > the hydrogen peroxide therapy is finished?? > Or can i use them all together as currently im not getting much die > off reactions at all ==>, it is not a goal of this program to " get " die-off reactions, nor to judge your progress by die-off reactions. I'm saying you shouldn't do the H202 therapy, and instead take just coconut oil and the oil of oregano as antifungals. ==>Most people will not be able to tolerate the H202 taken by the drop as they increase the dose because it starts to taste exactly like bleach. It isn't an antifungal I think is as important as others. H202 also increase oxygen levels in the body, however this is more easily done by taking niacin plus B complex, vitamin C, and vitamin E as I recommend. Vitamin C increases the body's own production of H202 which is the better way to get it rather than taking H202 by mouth. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi Bee Im currently taking all the vitamins including niacin etc that you reccomend I went to so much trouble to order this hydrogen peroxide and ive been on it for a week now So your saying i should stop it all together and never use it again and just go back to coconut oil and oregano oil? Regards and thanks > > Hi thanks for your reply bee > > im still a bit confused > > > > So your saying i should just stick to the hydrogen peroxide and 6 > > tablespoons of coconut oil and stop the oil of oregano for now till > > the hydrogen peroxide therapy is finished?? > > Or can i use them all together as currently im not getting much die > > off reactions at all > > ==>, it is not a goal of this program to " get " die-off > reactions, nor to judge your progress by die-off reactions. I'm > saying you shouldn't do the H202 therapy, and instead take just > coconut oil and the oil of oregano as antifungals. > > ==>Most people will not be able to tolerate the H202 taken by the > drop as they increase the dose because it starts to taste exactly > like bleach. It isn't an antifungal I think is as important as > others. H202 also increase oxygen levels in the body, however this > is more easily done by taking niacin plus B complex, vitamin C, and > vitamin E as I recommend. Vitamin C increases the body's own > production of H202 which is the better way to get it rather than > taking H202 by mouth. > > Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 > > Hi Bee > Im currently taking all the vitamins including niacin etc that you > reccomend > > I went to so much trouble to order this hydrogen peroxide and ive been on it for a week now. So your saying i should stop it all together and never use it again and just go back to coconut oil and oregano oil? ==>You can use the H202 in baths, brushing your teeth, rinsing your mouth, etc. If you really want to try it, be very cautious and use the chart I have made for candida in the H202 article, but do not take the oil of oregano while on it. Measure the drops carefully too. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 a, I wouldn't recommend the H202 IVs until you are more built up with nutrients. Bee > > I finally found some food grade hydrogen peroxide in store close to > Nashville. My husband just landed there and will pick it up for me on the > way home. I read somewhere online not to do an H2O2 bath late at night > because the increased oxygen in your blood will keep you awake? Is this > true? What are some of the experiences people here have had after taking an > H2O2 bath? Epsom salt makes me tired and swollen so I have been taking > baking soda baths, but I know they are not as helpful. Just wondering what > to expect. > > Also, are the hydrogen peroxide IVs any good? I was getting IV chelation > before I knew about this group and knew better and the doctor who > administered them also does H2O2 IVs. I saw a lot of people getting them and > was wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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