Still trying to figure out my deal after so many years....Hypogonadism, TRT/HGC

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Not really sure where I probably fit in terms of the various sydromes and

variants, but here's some data.

Age 24 (before TRT): 6'0 " , 135 lbs., very low muscle mass, but not lean...tend

to have fat on my middle, 34 " waist, Total Testosterone was 90, Prolactin was

around 85, had an MRI but couldn't find anything wrong, small nuts (3/4 " ), voice

never changed, not a single whisker, very thin wrists.

Presently, at age 41, after TRT (shots at first, then scrotal patch, then

Androgel, then HCG), my weight is 150 lbs, still 6'0 " , same 34 waist, still very

thin, small wrists, nuts never changed...still 3/4 " , voice changed of course,

partial facial hair, larger than average penis size (I don't think I ever was

small). Prolactin has been normal since my late 20's, after taking Dostinex for

several months. I must've had a super tiny tumor on my pituitary, and the

medication caused it to obliterate...awesome.

I've never had semen analysis but I would be shocked if I was able to have kids.

Androgel seems to work the best out of everything. Very stable and I'm able to

put on a bit of muscle (not a lot, just enough to notice a difference) if I go

to the gym 3-4 times per week. I feel better and sex drive seems normal.

I tried HCG about 500 IU 2x-3x a week for the past 2 years. My hope was to have

my own body produce testosterone, instead of relying on Androgel, but whenever

I'm on it exclusively, my body weight seems to drop and I don't have the energy

I did when working out, despite the fact that my total testosterone tests normal

while using it. No idea why I feel better when using Androgel. HCG also seems

to make me blemish more on my face vs. Androgel. Last time I was tested using

just 500 units of HCG 2x per week, my testosterone level was a bit low. I've

tried higher amounts (1,000-2000 units 2x/wk) per my doctor's recommendation,

but I get bad blemish issues and don't like to do it. Then my doctor

recommended I do 500 units of HCG and one pump of Androgel, 3x per week and that

seems ok.

Anyway...I had hoped HCG would work better overall vs. Androgel, and that my

testicle size would increase, but it hasn't.

When on Androgel exclusively, my FSH and LH always failed to show up on labwork.

Estrogen always remained normal while on Androgel exclusively, which surprised

me as I expected it would increase.

When I switched to using HCG exclusively (500mg 3x per week...no Androgel), I

was surprised to see I had a normal FSH and LH level, and my estrogen was still

totally normal, but was higher than it had been in the past. I had begun to

think I wasn't capable of producing FSH/LH when I used Androgel.

I thought my testicle size would increase while taking HCG and having normal

FSH/LH, but it hasn't at all. I realized my sex drive was down too versus when

I used Androgel. Again, I've been using HCG for about 2 years. I think I might

be done using it and will go to Androgel full time.

Any thoughts as to why I can't increase my testicle size? Or what I might try

to do so?

If it ends up I can't, so be it....but still, it would be nice to have what

other guys have, but it's not the end of the world.

And no idea why I'd feel weaker and have less stamina while using HCG than when

using only Androgel. Maybe I've just not been able to get the mix

right..../sigh.