Re: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of Labido

September 17, 2009

It would help a lot if you put in the units and ranges.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: imranhalim100 <no_reply >

> Subject: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of

Labido

>

> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 4:53 PM

> Hello All,

>

> I have been to A LOT of doctors but so far no one has been

> able to help.

>

> Have the following symptoms and some lab test results

> below,

> please advice what you all think ? I appreciate your time

> and valuable advice in advance.

>

> The Symptoms below have been persistent with varying

> intensities all throughout my life. In last two years,

> depression ,anxiety and OCD has made it 10 times

> worse.

>

> Physical Symptoms:

>

> 1 Lower Back Pain on both

> side of the hip.

> 2 Neck pain on both sides

> 3 Foot & knee pain

> 4 Pain in the shoulder

> blades in the back.

> 2. No Sex drive for last 5-7 years.

> 3. Physical Fatigue.

> 4. No stamina, out-of-breath shortly

> after

> moderate physical activity.

> 5. Tossing and turning in the bed,

> throughout the night.

> 6. Eyes have dark circles, burn and itch

> all the time.

> 7. Heavy Snoring

>

> Psychological Symptoms:

>

> 1. Wake up un-refreshed, even

> after 8-10 hours of sleep

> with no

> interruptions.

> 2. Heavy brain fog, mind is numb almost

> all the time.

> 3. Very short attention span.

> 4. Very poor short term memory

> 5. Confused and foggy thinking, all the

> time.

> 6. Poor judgment & decision skills.

> 7. Mild Depression

> 8. High OCD

> 9. High Anxiety

> 10. Stress out upon activity throughout

> the day.

> 11. Nervousness.

> 12. No motivation or desire to

> learn, have goals and meet people.

> 13. Mental Fatigue.

> 14. Inability to pay-attention to

> details.

> 15. Unable to think &

> decide where I go while driving.

>

> Here are the results from my Blood Work i just had done.

>

> Glucose, Serum

> 107

> Uric Acid, Serum 5,8

> BUN/Creatinine Ratio 18

>

> Sodium, Serum

> 138

> Potassium, Serum 4.2

> Chloride, Serum 101

> 97-108

> Carbon Dioxide, Total 25

> Cafcium, Serum

> 10.0

> Phosphorus, Serum 4.0

> Protein, Total, Serum 7.4

> Albumin, Serum

> 4.7

> Globulin, Total 2.7

> A/G Ratio

> 1.7

> Bilirubin, Total 0.2

> Bilirubin, Direct 0.06

> Alkaline Phosphatase, S73

> LDH

> 117

> AST (SGOT)

> 21

> ALT (SGPT)

> 24

> Iron, Serum

> 42

> Cholesterol, Total 156

>

> Triglycerides

> 156

> HDL Cholesterol

> 41

> LDL Cholesterol Caic 84

> TSH

> 2.410

> Thyroxine (T4)

> 5.6

> T3 Uptake 37

> T4,Free(Direct)

> 1.37

> WBC

> 5.9

> RBC

> 4.58

> Hemoglobin

> 14,3

> Hematocrit

> 43.1

> MCV

> 94

> MCH

> 31.2

> MCHC

> 33.1

> RDW

> 12.9

> Platelets

> 225

> Neutrophils

> 53

> Lymphs

> 37

> Monocytes 6

>

> Eos

> 3

> Basos

> 1

> Neutrophils (Absolute) 3.1

> Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2

> Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4

> Eos (Absolute)

> 0,2

> Baso (Absolute)

> 0.1

> Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.5

> Free Testosterone(Direct) 14.6

> Estradiol

> 32

> Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy 33.5

> Insulin

> 14.3

> Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab <5

> Antithyroglobulin Ab <20

> Cortisol

> 9,2

>

> Thanks !

>

> Imran

>

> ------------------------------------

>

September 17, 2009

Thanks for the advice, i updated the results below.

LAB RESULTS

Glucose, Serum 107

Uric Acid, Serum 5,8

BUN 16

Creatinine, Serum 0.91

eGFR >59

eGFR AfricanAmerlcan >59

BUN/Creatinine Ratio 18 8-27

Sodium, Serum 138 135-145 mmof/L

Potassium, Serum 4.2 3,5-5.2 mmol/L

Chloride, Serum 101 97-108 mmoi/L

Carbon Dioxide, Total 25 20-32 mmol/L

Cafcium, Serum 10.0 8.5-10.6 mg/dL

Phosphorus, Serum 4.0 2.5-4.5 mg/dL

Protein, Total, Serum 7.4 6.0-8.5 g/dL

Albumin, Serum 4.7 3.5-5.5 g/dL

Globulin, Total 2.7 1.5-4.5 g/dL

A/G Ratio 1.7 1.1-2.5

Bilirubin, Total 0.2 0,1-1.2 mg/dL

Bilirubin, Direct 0.06 0.00-0.40 mg/dL

Alkaline Phosphatase,S 73 25-150 IU/L

LDH 117 100-250 IU/L

AST (SGOT) 21 0-40 IU/L

ALT (SGPT) 24 0-55 IU/L

Iron, Serum 42 40-155 ug/dL

Cholesterol, Total 156 100-199 mg/dL

Triglycerides 154 H 0-149 mg/dL

HDL Cholesterol 41 >39 mg/dL

LDL Cholesterol Caic 84 0-99 mg/dL

Estimated CHD Risk 0.6 0.0-1,0 times avg.

TSH 2.410 0,450-4.500 uIU/mL

Thyroxine (T4) 5.6 4.5-12.0 ug/dL

T3 Uptake 37 24-39 %

T4,Free(Direct) 1.37 0.93-1.71 ng/dL

WBC 5.9 4.0-10.5 X10E3/UL

RBC 4.58 4.10-5.60 X10E6/UL

Hemoglobin 14,3 12.5-17.0 g/dL

Hematocrit 43.1 3S.0-50.0 %

MCV 94 80-98 fL

MCH 31.2 27.0-34,0 pg

MCHC 33.1 32.0-36.0 g/dL

RDW 12.9 11.7-15.0%

Platelets 225 140-415 x!0E3/uL

Neutrophils 53 40-74 %

Lymphs 37 14-46 %

Monocytes 6 4-13 %

Eos 3 0-7 %

Basos 1 0-3 %

Neutrophils (Absolute) 3.1 1,8-7.8 X10E3/UL

Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2 0.7-4.5 X10E3/UL

Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4 0.1-1.0 xl0E3/uL

Eos (Absolute) 0,2 0.0-0.4 X10E3/UL

Baso (Absolute) 0.1 0,0-0.2 X10E3/UL

Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.5 0-4.0 ng/mL

Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy 33.5 32.0-100.0 ng/mL

Insulin 14.3 0.0-29.1 uIU/mL

Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab <5 0-34 lU/mL

Antithyroglobulin Ab <20 0-40 IU/mL

Cortisol 9,2 3.1-22.4 ug/dL

>

> > From: imranhalim100 <no_reply >

> > Subject: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of

Labido

> >

> > Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 4:53 PM

> > Hello All,

> >

> > I have been to A LOT of doctors but so far no one has been

> > able to help.

> >

> > Have the following symptoms and some lab test results

> > below,

> > please advice what you all think ? I appreciate your time

> > and valuable advice in advance.

> >

> > The Symptoms below have been persistent with varying

> > intensities all throughout my life. In last two years,

> > depression ,anxiety and OCD has made it 10 times

> > worse.

> >

> > Physical Symptoms:

> >

> > 1 Lower Back Pain on both

> > side of the hip.

> > 2 Neck pain on both sides

> > 3 Foot & knee pain

> > 4 Pain in the shoulder

> > blades in the back.

> > 2. No Sex drive for last 5-7 years.

> > 3. Physical Fatigue.

> > 4. No stamina, out-of-breath shortly

> > after

> > moderate physical activity.

> > 5. Tossing and turning in the bed,

> > throughout the night.

> > 6. Eyes have dark circles, burn and itch

> > all the time.

> > 7. Heavy Snoring

> >

> > Psychological Symptoms:

> >

> > 1. Wake up un-refreshed, even

> > after 8-10 hours of sleep

> > with no

> > interruptions.

> > 2. Heavy brain fog, mind is numb almost

> > all the time.

> > 3. Very short attention span.

> > 4. Very poor short term memory

> > 5. Confused and foggy thinking, all the

> > time.

> > 6. Poor judgment & decision skills.

> > 7. Mild Depression

> > 8. High OCD

> > 9. High Anxiety

> > 10. Stress out upon activity throughout

> > the day.

> > 11. Nervousness.

> > 12. No motivation or desire to

> > learn, have goals and meet people.

> > 13. Mental Fatigue.

> > 14. Inability to pay-attention to

> > details.

> > 15. Unable to think &

> > decide where I go while driving.

> >

> > Here are the results from my Blood Work i just had done.

> >

> > Glucose, Serum

> > 107

> > Uric Acid, Serum 5,8

> > BUN/Creatinine Ratio 18

> >

> > Sodium, Serum

> > 138

> > Potassium, Serum 4.2

> > Chloride, Serum 101

> > 97-108

> > Carbon Dioxide, Total 25

> > Cafcium, Serum

> > 10.0

> > Phosphorus, Serum 4.0

> > Protein, Total, Serum 7.4

> > Albumin, Serum

> > 4.7

> > Globulin, Total 2.7

> > A/G Ratio

> > 1.7

> > Bilirubin, Total 0.2

> > Bilirubin, Direct 0.06

> > Alkaline Phosphatase, S73

> > LDH

> > 117

> > AST (SGOT)

> > 21

> > ALT (SGPT)

> > 24

> > Iron, Serum

> > 42

> > Cholesterol, Total 156

> >

> > Triglycerides

> > 156

> > HDL Cholesterol

> > 41

> > LDL Cholesterol Caic 84

> > TSH

> > 2.410

> > Thyroxine (T4)

> > 5.6

> > T3 Uptake 37

> > T4,Free(Direct)

> > 1.37

> > WBC

> > 5.9

> > RBC

> > 4.58

> > Hemoglobin

> > 14,3

> > Hematocrit

> > 43.1

> > MCV

> > 94

> > MCH

> > 31.2

> > MCHC

> > 33.1

> > RDW

> > 12.9

> > Platelets

> > 225

> > Neutrophils

> > 53

> > Lymphs

> > 37

> > Monocytes 6

> >

> > Eos

> > 3

> > Basos

> > 1

> > Neutrophils (Absolute) 3.1

> > Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2

> > Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4

> > Eos (Absolute)

> > 0,2

> > Baso (Absolute)

> > 0.1

> > Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.5

> > Free Testosterone(Direct) 14.6

> > Estradiol

> > 32

> > Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy 33.5

> > Insulin

> > 14.3

> > Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab <5

> > Antithyroglobulin Ab <20

> > Cortisol

> > 9,2

> >

> > Thanks !

> >

> > Imran

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

September 17, 2009

> >

> > > From: imranhalim100 <no_reply >

> > > Subject: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of

Labido

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 4:53 PM

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > > I have been to A LOT of doctors but so far no one has been

> > > able to help.

> > >

> > > Have the following symptoms and some lab test results

> > > below,

> > > please advice what you all think ? I appreciate your time

> > > and valuable advice in advance.

> > >

> > > The Symptoms below have been persistent with varying

> > > intensities all throughout my life. In last two years,

> > > depression ,anxiety and OCD has made itï¿½ 10 times

> > > worse.

> > >

> > > Physical Symptoms:

> > >

> > > 1ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½Lower Back Pain on both

> > > side of the hip.

> > > 2ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½Neck pain on both sides

> > > 3ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½Foot & knee pain

> > > 4ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½Pain in the shoulder

> > > blades in the back.

> > > 2.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ No Sex drive for last 5-7 years.

> > > 3.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Physical Fatigue.

> > > 4.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ No stamina, out-of-breath shortly

> > > after

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ moderate physical activity.

> > > 5.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Tossing and turning in the bed,

> > > throughout the night.

> > > 6.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Eyes have dark circles, burn and itch

> > > all the time.

> > > 7.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Heavy Snoring

> > >

> > > Psychologicalï¿½ Symptoms:

> > >

> > > 1.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½Wake up un-refreshed, even

> > > after 8-10 hours of sleep

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½with no

> > > interruptions.

> > > 2.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Heavy brain fog, mind is numb almost

> > > all the time.

> > > 3.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Very short attention span.

> > > 4.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Very poor short term memory

> > > 5.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Confused and foggy thinking, all the

> > > time.

> > > 6.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Poor judgment & decision skills.

> > > 7.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Mild Depression

> > > 8.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ High OCD

> > > 9.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ High Anxiety

> > > 10.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Stress out upon activity throughout

> > > the day.

> > > 11.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Nervousness.

> > > 12.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ No motivation or desire to

> > > learn,ï¿½ have goals and meet people.

> > > 13.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Mental Fatigue.

> > > 14.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Inability to pay-attention to

> > > details.

> > > 15.ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½Unable to think &

> > > decideï¿½ where I go while driving.

> > >

> > > Here are the results from my Blood Work i just had done.

> > >

> > > Glucose, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 107

> > > Uric Acid, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 5,8

> > > BUN/Creatinine Ratioï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 18ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½

> > >

> > > Sodium, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 138

> > > Potassium, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 4.2

> > > Chloride, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 101ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½

> > > 97-108

> > > Carbon Dioxide, Totalï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 25

> > > Cafcium, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 10.0ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½

> > > Phosphorus, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 4.0

> > > Protein, Total, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 7.4

> > > Albumin, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 4.7

> > > Globulin, Totalï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 2.7

> > > A/G Ratioï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 1.7

> > > Bilirubin, Totalï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 0.2

> > > Bilirubin, Directï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 0.06

> > > Alkaline Phosphatase,ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½S73

> > > LDHï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 117

> > > AST (SGOT)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 21

> > > ALT (SGPT)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 24

> > > Iron, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 42

> > > Cholesterol, Totalï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 156ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½

> > >

> > > Triglyceridesï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 156

> > > HDL Cholesterolï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 41

> > > LDL Cholesterol Caicï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 84

> > > TSHï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 2.410

> > > Thyroxine (T4)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 5.6

> > > T3 Uptakeï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 37

> > > T4,Free(Direct)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 1.37

> > > WBCï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 5.9

> > > RBCï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 4.58

> > > Hemoglobinï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 14,3ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½

> > > Hematocritï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 43.1

> > > MCVï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 94

> > > MCHï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 31.2

> > > MCHCï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 33.1

> > > RDWï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 12.9

> > > Plateletsï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 225

> > > Neutrophils ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > 53

> > > Lymphsï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 37

> > > Monocytes ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 6

> > >

> > > Eosï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 3

> > > Basosï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ 1

> > > Neutrophils (Absolute)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 3.1

> > > Lymphs (Absolute)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 2.2

> > > Monocytes(Absolute)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 0.4

> > > Eos (Absolute)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 0,2

> > > Baso (Absolute)ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ 0.1

> > > Prostate Specific Ag, Serumï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 0.5

> > > Free Testosterone(Direct) 14.6

> > > Estradiolï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½32

> > > Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxyï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 33.5

> > > Insulinï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ 14.3

> > > Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Abï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ <5

> > > Antithyroglobulin Abï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ <20

> > > Cortisolï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½

> > > ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½9,2

> > >

> > > Thanks !

> > >

> > > Imran

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

September 17, 2009

Your sodium is on the low side check your Aldosterone levels you might be

dumping your sodium. Try adding a half a tsp full of some good Sea Salt first

thing in the morning to a glass of water then drink it all down see it you don't

feel better.

Your Iron is low do some more labs to check this.

Total Iron

Iron Binding Capacity

Iron % Saturation

Ferritin

B-12

Triglycerides are high are you losing weight.

Your Thyroid looks low do this test in the morning to tell if your hypo.

http://drbate.com/Ref/thyroid.html

Vit D is low watch this video.

http://www.uvadvantage.org/portals/0/pres/

Your Cortisol is very low you now need to do a 4x's in a day Saliva Test to see

what stage of Adrenal Fatigue your at.

http://www.tmuscle.com/article/diet_and_nutrition/adrenal_fatigue_101 & cr=dietAnd\

Nutrition

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%201%20.html

In this link are links all about this and treating it.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=256

I feel you need to test your Sex Hormones do the following.

Estradiol sentive Code #4021

Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X.

LH and FSH

Prolactin

Now you need to know this is what I see I am not a Dr. but I feel you have a lot

on your plate here.

It might well be you have a Pituitary Problem and doing an ACTH Stim. test would

help to see it you have this problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACTH_stimulation_test

Do the above labs before treating any thing.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: imranhalim100 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of

Labido

>

> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 5:51 PM

> Thanks for the advice, i updated the

> results below.

>

> LAB RESULTS

>

> Glucose, Serum

> 107

> Uric Acid, Serum 5,8

> BUN

> 16

> Creatinine, Serum

> 0.91

> eGFR

> >59

> eGFR AfricanAmerlcan

> >59

> BUN/Creatinine Ratio

> 18 8-27

> Sodium, Serum

> 138 135-145 mmof/L

> Potassium, Serum

> 4.2 3,5-5.2 mmol/L

> Chloride, Serum

> 101 97-108 mmoi/L

> Carbon Dioxide, Total

> 25 20-32 mmol/L

> Cafcium, Serum

> 10.0 8.5-10.6 mg/dL

> Phosphorus, Serum

> 4.0 2.5-4.5 mg/dL

> Protein, Total, Serum

> 7.4 6.0-8.5 g/dL

> Albumin, Serum

> 4.7 3.5-5.5 g/dL

> Globulin, Total

> 2.7 1.5-4.5 g/dL

> A/G Ratio

> 1.7 1.1-2.5

> Bilirubin, Total

> 0.2 0,1-1.2 mg/dL

> Bilirubin, Direct

> 0.06 0.00-0.40 mg/dL

> Alkaline Phosphatase,S

> 73 25-150 IU/L

> LDH

> 117 100-250 IU/L

> AST (SGOT)

> 21 0-40 IU/L

> ALT (SGPT)

> 24 0-55 IU/L

> Iron, Serum

> 42 40-155 ug/dL

> Cholesterol, Total

> 156 100-199 mg/dL

> Triglycerides

> 154 H

> 0-149 mg/dL

> HDL Cholesterol

> 41 >39 mg/dL

> LDL Cholesterol Caic

> 84 0-99 mg/dL

> Estimated CHD Risk

> 0.6 0.0-1,0 times avg.

> TSH

> 2.410 0,450-4.500

> uIU/mL

> Thyroxine (T4)

> 5.6 4.5-12.0 ug/dL

> T3 Uptake

> 37 24-39 %

> T4,Free(Direct)

> 1.37 0.93-1.71 ng/dL

> WBC

> 5.9 4.0-10.5 X10E3/UL

> RBC

> 4.58 4.10-5.60

> X10E6/UL

> Hemoglobin

> 14,3 12.5-17.0 g/dL

> Hematocrit

> 43.1 3S.0-50.0 %

> MCV

> 94 80-98 fL

> MCH

> 31.2 27.0-34,0 pg

> MCHC

> 33.1

> 32.0-36.0 g/dL

> RDW

> 12.9 11.7-15.0%

> Platelets

> 225 140-415 x!0E3/uL

> Neutrophils

> 53 40-74 %

> Lymphs

>

> 37 14-46 %

> Monocytes

> 6 4-13 %

> Eos

> 3 0-7 %

> Basos

> 1

> 0-3 %

> Neutrophils (Absolute)

> 3.1 1,8-7.8 X10E3/UL

> Lymphs (Absolute)

> 2.2 0.7-4.5 X10E3/UL

> Monocytes(Absolute)

> 0.4 0.1-1.0 xl0E3/uL

> Eos (Absolute)

> 0,2 0.0-0.4 X10E3/UL

> Baso (Absolute)

> 0.1 0,0-0.2 X10E3/UL

> Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.5

> 0-4.0 ng/mL

> Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy

> 33.5 32.0-100.0 ng/mL

> Insulin

> 14.3

> 0.0-29.1 uIU/mL

> Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab

> <5 0-34 lU/mL

> Antithyroglobulin Ab

> <20 0-40 IU/mL

> Cortisol

> 9,2 3.1-22.4

> ug/dL

>

> >

> > > From: imranhalim100 <no_reply >

> > > Subject: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety,

> Depression and Loss of Labido

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 4:53 PM

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > > I have been to A LOT of doctors but so far no one

> has been

> > > able to help.

> > >

> > > Have the following symptoms and some lab test

> results

> > > below,

> > > please advice what you all think ? I appreciate

> your time

> > > and valuable advice in advance.

> > >

> > > The Symptoms below have been persistent with

> varying

> > > intensities all throughout my life. In last two

> years,

> > > depression ,anxiety and OCD has made it 10

> times

> > > worse.

> > >

> > > Physical Symptoms:

> > >

> > > 1 Lower Back Pain on both

> > > side of the hip.

> > > 2 Neck pain on both sides

> > > 3 Foot & knee pain

> > > 4 Pain in the shoulder

> > > blades in the back.

> > > 2. No Sex drive for last 5-7 years.

> > > 3. Physical Fatigue.

> > > 4. No stamina, out-of-breath shortly

> > > after

> > > moderate physical activity.

> > > 5. Tossing and turning in the bed,

> > > throughout the night.

> > > 6. Eyes have dark circles, burn and itch

> > > all the time.

> > > 7. Heavy Snoring

> > >

> > > Psychological Symptoms:

> > >

> > > 1. Wake up un-refreshed, even

> > > after 8-10 hours of sleep

> > > with no

> > > interruptions.

> > > 2. Heavy brain fog, mind is numb almost

> > > all the time.

> > > 3. Very short attention span.

> > > 4. Very poor short term memory

> > > 5. Confused and foggy thinking, all the

> > > time.

> > > 6. Poor judgment & decision skills.

> > > 7. Mild Depression

> > > 8. High OCD

> > > 9. High Anxiety

> > > 10. Stress out upon activity throughout

> > > the day.

> > > 11. Nervousness.

> > > 12. No motivation or desire to

> > > learn, have goals and meet people.

> > > 13. Mental Fatigue.

> > > 14. Inability to pay-attention to

> > > details.

> > > 15. Unable to think &

> > > decide where I go while driving.

> > >

> > > Here are the results from my Blood Work i just

> had done.

> > >

> > > Glucose, Serum

> > > 107

> > > Uric Acid, Serum 5,8

> > > BUN/Creatinine Ratio 18

> > >

> > > Sodium, Serum

> > > 138

> > > Potassium, Serum 4.2

> > > Chloride, Serum 101

> > > 97-108

> > > Carbon Dioxide, Total 25

> > > Cafcium, Serum

> > > 10.0

> > > Phosphorus, Serum 4.0

> > > Protein, Total, Serum 7.4

> > > Albumin, Serum

> > > 4.7

> > > Globulin, Total 2.7

> > > A/G Ratio

> > > 1.7

> > > Bilirubin, Total 0.2

> > > Bilirubin, Direct 0.06

> > > Alkaline Phosphatase, S73

> > > LDH

> > > 117

> > > AST (SGOT)

> > > 21

> > > ALT (SGPT)

> > > 24

> > > Iron, Serum

> > > 42

> > > Cholesterol, Total 156

> > >

> > > Triglycerides

> > > 156

> > > HDL Cholesterol

> > > 41

> > > LDL Cholesterol Caic 84

> > > TSH

> > > 2.410

> > > Thyroxine (T4)

> > > 5.6

> > > T3 Uptake 37

> > > T4,Free(Direct)

> > > 1.37

> > > WBC

> > > 5.9

> > > RBC

> > > 4.58

> > > Hemoglobin

> > > 14,3

> > > Hematocrit

> > > 43.1

> > > MCV

> > > 94

> > > MCH

> > > 31.2

> > > MCHC

> > > 33.1

> > > RDW

> > > 12.9

> > > Platelets

> > > 225

> > > Neutrophils

> > > 53

> > > Lymphs

> > > 37

> > > Monocytes 6

> > >

> > > Eos

> > > 3

> > > Basos

> > > 1

> > > Neutrophils (Absolute) 3.1

> > > Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2

> > > Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4

> > > Eos (Absolute)

> > > 0,2

> > > Baso (Absolute)

> > > 0.1

> > > Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.5

> > > Free Testosterone(Direct) 14.6

> > > Estradiol

> > > 32

> > > Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy 33.5

> > > Insulin

> > > 14.3

> > > Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab <5

> > > Antithyroglobulin Ab <20

> > > Cortisol

> > > 9,2

> > >

> > > Thanks !

> > >

> > > Imran

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

September 18, 2009

Potassium is a bit low. Next time you test it may help to determine 24 hour

cortisol levels if you do a 24 hour saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a

look at 24 hours should help rule out high cortisol (can't sleep at night,

anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low cortisol and thyroid issues..it's complex

and takes some time to rule out..

The guys have given you advice about your s*x hormones, but I would urge you

also to do further thyroid testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 (emphasis on

FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the important tests; my dh had most of your

symptoms and all were a combination of low T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

September 18, 2009

jesus christ if what i just had was a panic attack,it was

horrible.dizziness,fear,felt so sick i wanted to drive to the emergency room...i

guess Phil was right maybe my estradiol is too high.that was one of the most

horrible feelings ive ever had.

---- dbktsar <dbkczar@...> wrote:

> Potassium is a bit low. Next time you test it may help to determine 24 hour

cortisol levels if you do a 24 hour saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a

look at 24 hours should help rule out high cortisol (can't sleep at night,

anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low cortisol and thyroid issues..it's complex

and takes some time to rule out..

>

> The guys have given you advice about your s*x hormones, but I would urge you

also to do further thyroid testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 (emphasis on

FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the important tests; my dh had most of your

symptoms and all were a combination of low T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

>

September 18, 2009

Yes it is horrible I would be so bad off a would just lay in bed of sit and tell

everyone to leave me alone the more they asked me what was wrong the worse it

got. I wish I could give you some Arimidex when this would happen I would take

the pill and all would be better in less then an hour.

Can't you get your Dr. to give you something even a script for a few pills would

not kill you. Did you have to go back on the gel.

It's not really a panic attack it's your body reacting to the high Estradiol and

feels like one.

Go to the health food store and by some DIM here is a link about how it works.

http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm

Eat as much of this as you can it might help.

broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower and kale

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > Potassium is a bit low. Next time you test it may help

> to determine 24 hour cortisol levels if you do a 24 hour

> saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a look at 24 hours

> should help rule out high cortisol (can't sleep at night,

> anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low cortisol and thyroid

> issues..it's complex and takes some time to rule out..

> >

> > The guys have given you advice about your s*x

> hormones, but I would urge you also to do further thyroid

> testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 (emphasis on

> FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the important tests; my dh

> had most of your symptoms and all were a combination of low

> T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

September 18, 2009

Metagenics also has a great product for estrogen metabolism called Meta I3C .

www.hormonesynergy.com

> > > Potassium is a bit low. Next time you test it may help

> > to determine 24 hour cortisol levels if you do a 24 hour

> > saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a look at 24 hours

> > should help rule out high cortisol (can't sleep at night,

> > anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low cortisol and thyroid

> > issues..it's complex and takes some time to rule out..

> > >

> > > The guys have given you advice about your s*x

> > hormones, but I would urge you also to do further thyroid

> > testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 (emphasis on

> > FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the important tests; my dh

> > had most of your symptoms and all were a combination of low

> > T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

September 18, 2009

phil,ive been off the gel for 3 days now..should i go back on til i see the dr

on tuesday?

---- Jay <danieljay1964@...> wrote:

> Metagenics also has a great product for estrogen metabolism called Meta I3C .

>

> www.hormonesynergy.com

>

> > > > Potassium is a bit low. Next time you test it may help

> > > to determine 24 hour cortisol levels if you do a 24 hour

> > > saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a look at 24 hours

> > > should help rule out high cortisol (can't sleep at night,

> > > anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low cortisol and thyroid

> > > issues..it's complex and takes some time to rule out..

> > > >

> > > > The guys have given you advice about your s*x

> > > hormones, but I would urge you also to do further thyroid

> > > testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 (emphasis on

> > > FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the important tests; my dh

> > > had most of your symptoms and all were a combination of low

> > > T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

September 19, 2009

I tried 13C when I first found my estradiol levels were to high this product did

nothing to lower my estradiol E2 levels and caused me other problems. I found

out most of 13C gets killed in the stomach and a lot of DIM products do the same

thing. I came across Indolplex/DIM this dose not get killed in the stomach and

works well if your levels are not to high. At one time we could get 13C

Compounded into a cream that you rub on your fore arms this worked great. But

the Compounding Lab that did this and owned the formula went under.

The newer DIM's out there by BioResponse is said to work well I have not tried

this but others say it works great.

http://www.bioresponse.com/Real-Facts-on-Safety-13C-vs-DIM.asp?gclid=CKKglu_x_Zw\

CFQ4MDQodPkq-0A

Some time ago Life Extension wanted A. Zeligs, M.D. to join them and

push there products and his DIM. He turned them down so they went on the attack

against him.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/jan2002_report_i3c_01.html

http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm

http://qualitycounts.com/fpdim.html

The problems out there is there is a lot of junk put out on the market as soon

as a new study says something is good for us. They crank the junk out put a lot

of money into advertising and it has very little of the product in it. They are

just riping people off.

I have found in the yrs I have been at this and there are many of them if one

has very high levels of Estradiol it's best to get them down with arimidex. A

lot of men see a Dr. find out they are low on Testosteoone and the Dr. just puts

them on TRT with out even Testing there Estradiol or trying to find out why they

are low. Going on TRT it is then to late to find out way one is low.

One of the big reasons for low T in older men is high levels of Estradiol and

getting this down there Testosterone levels can jump some 200 to 300 points and

they don't need TRT.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174

http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm

Welcome to our world and what we try to do here.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Jay <danieljay1964@...>

> Subject: Re: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of

Labido

>

> Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 6:54 PM

> Metagenics also has a great product

> for estrogen metabolism called Meta I3C .

>

> www.hormonesynergy.com

>

> > > > Potassium is a bit low. Next time you test

> it may help

> > > to determine 24 hour cortisol levels if you do a

> 24 hour

> > > saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a look at

> 24 hours

> > > should help rule out high cortisol (can't sleep

> at night,

> > > anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low cortisol

> and thyroid

> > > issues..it's complex and takes some time to rule

> out..

> > > >

> > > > The guys have given you advice about your

> s*x

> > > hormones, but I would urge you also to do further

> thyroid

> > > testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 (emphasis

> on

> > > FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the important

> tests; my dh

> > > had most of your symptoms and all were a

> combination of low

> > > T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

September 19, 2009

No not if your still feeling this panic feelings and like Reto said there might

be something in the gel giving you a reaction to it.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > Metagenics also has a great product for estrogen

> metabolism called Meta I3C .

> >

> > www.hormonesynergy.com

> >

> > > > > Potassium is a bit low. Next time you

> test it may help

> > > > to determine 24 hour cortisol levels if you

> do a 24 hour

> > > > saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a

> look at 24 hours

> > > > should help rule out high cortisol (can't

> sleep at night,

> > > > anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low

> cortisol and thyroid

> > > > issues..it's complex and takes some time to

> rule out..

> > > > >

> > > > > The guys have given you advice about

> your s*x

> > > > hormones, but I would urge you also to do

> further thyroid

> > > > testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4

> (emphasis on

> > > > FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the

> important tests; my dh

> > > > had most of your symptoms and all were a

> combination of low

> > > > T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

September 19, 2009

You're right, Arimidex is by far the best option. We've had mixed results with

I3C, but some success.

We have one pharmacy willing to compound Arimidex for daily use but haven't

found it as affective as splitting a pill a couple times a week.

The misinformation and ignorance out there is astounding. We've actually had

pharmacists try and refuse to fill scripts of Arimidex for men.

Its an uphill battle against ignorance.

> > > > > Potassium is a bit low. Next time you test

> > it may help

> > > > to determine 24 hour cortisol levels if you do a

> > 24 hour

> > > > saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but a look at

> > 24 hours

> > > > should help rule out high cortisol (can't sleep

> > at night,

> > > > anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low cortisol

> > and thyroid

> > > > issues..it's complex and takes some time to rule

> > out..

> > > > >

> > > > > The guys have given you advice about your

> > s*x

> > > > hormones, but I would urge you also to do further

> > thyroid

> > > > testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 (emphasis

> > on

> > > > FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the important

> > tests; my dh

> > > > had most of your symptoms and all were a

> > combination of low

> > > > T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

September 19, 2009

It's funny you said this about the pharmacy I had the opposite problem I had to

fight with my Dr. to get a script for Arimidex he kept trying things like

Raloxifene (Evista), Tamoxifen (Nolvadex)and 13C. I finely got mad as hell at

him and asked what is wrong with trying Arimidex he said he did not want BCBS

calling him asking him why he was giving me a drug for women. He then said they

will not pay for it well at the time I had ED, could not reach an orgasm if I

use a penis pump and penis ring to have sex. I has a bad problem with Panic

Attacks, bad rashes just under my arms on the sides of my body and on the back

of my calif's. I was red on the upper part of my body and would feel hot and

sweat 24/7. I had problems with anxiety and brain fog and Prostate.

It was my Druggist that told me he fills more scripts for arimidex for men then

he dose for women and BCBS pays for it.

I went on it and it took some time to get my high levels down I was above the

top of the range the labs said >90. We started at .5mgs every other day after 6

weeks my levels never moved down. So we did .5 mgs everyday then in 2 weeks I

got my involuntary nocturnal erections that appear during REM (Rapid Eye

Movement) sleep back after not having them for over 30 yrs. Then my ED stopped

and all the above problems high levels of Estradiol in men undo all the good TRT

dose for them.

When I first asked my Dr. to test this he laughed about it saying men don't have

this problem. Now today all his men on TRT are on Arimidex.

My Dr. is great I tell him something I picked up on the web he looks into it and

the next time I see him he is up on this and knows even more.

It's a same Dr.'s don't know about this or are willing to test and treat it.

I can't tell you how many men on TRT with ED problems and a low libido I have

told about high Estradiol levels. And they tested found they were very high got

this down and got there sex life back 2 were in there 80's.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Jay <danieljay1964@...>

> Subject: Re: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of

Labido

>

> Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 12:49 PM

> You're right, Arimidex is by far the

> best option. We've had mixed results with I3C, but

> some success.

>

> We have one pharmacy willing to compound Arimidex for daily

> use but haven't found it as affective as splitting a pill a

> couple times a week.

>

> The misinformation and ignorance out there is

> astounding. We've actually had pharmacists try and

> refuse to fill scripts of Arimidex for men.

>

> Its an uphill battle against ignorance.

>

> > > > > > Potassium is a bit low. Next time

> you test

> > > it may help

> > > > > to determine 24 hour cortisol levels if

> you do a

> > > 24 hour

> > > > > saliva test kit; your am looks ok, but

> a look at

> > > 24 hours

> > > > > should help rule out high cortisol

> (can't sleep

> > > at night,

> > > > > anxiety etc.)which symptoms mimic low

> cortisol

> > > and thyroid

> > > > > issues..it's complex and takes some

> time to rule

> > > out..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The guys have given you advice

> about your

> > > s*x

> > > > > hormones, but I would urge you also to

> do further

> > > thyroid

> > > > > testing too: TSH, Free T3 and Free T4

> (emphasis

> > > on

> > > > > FREE)...the doc didn't do most of the

> important

> > > tests; my dh

> > > > > had most of your symptoms and all were

> a

> > > combination of low

> > > > > T, low Cortisol and low thyroid...El

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

September 19, 2009

Very, very few doctors understand hormones especially male hormes and associated

problems. everyone should be allowed to punch a doctor once a year! LOL

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:25:07 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Extreme Fatigue, Anxiety, Depression and Loss of