Re: Going Forward

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tom,

I try going on Testim 5 grams you need to test in 2 weeks what can happen is you

might end up lower on your levels then before you started. If the dose is not

enough or it dose not get through your skin good enough.

What can happen is your brain will see the testosterone in your blood and slow

down sending the LH and FSH messages to your testis to make testosterone. So if

your levels were say 350 and the gel adds 200 more for a total of 550 at first

you feel on top of the world. Then your brain sees this and slows down or stops

sending the LH and FSH message and your testis stop making that 350 level. Now

you can be left with only what the gel is doing lower then you started 200.

All that is needed is more gel some do much better at 10 grams. When you get up

in the morning shower dry off shave to be sure your dry. Then put the gel on

your upper arms and shoulders and down your back as far as you can reach.

Spread this around then rub it in well do half the tube on one side then do the

other side.

When you come to doing labs shower in the morning try to do your labs early

don't put the gel on until your have your blood taken. Doing this you will not

get a spike in your labs you will have a true reading of your levels at the low

end of the gels working.

We feel better when the levels don't fall to low before you put on the gel the

next time.

You want to get your levels of Total and Free T up into the upper 1/3 of your

labs range for a young man. And keep your Estradiol down between 10 to 30 for

most best at 20 pg/ml some do better at a higher levels this is based on how

your SHBG levels are the higher they are the higher your Estradiol can be.

This is a good link to read and we have much more links and files from the home

page on the lift.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> Subject: Going Forward

>

> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:09 AM

> Back from the doctor. More labs ordered, blood work, sleep

> study, etc.

> Starting Testim 5/gm. I read the archives on Testim. Is

> there

> anything else I need to know? Application site preparation,

> etc.

>

> Phil, you really are a benefit to the gender and the race.

> I thought

> my knowledge base on atril fibrillation and hemochromatosis

> was

> extensive. This hormone related condition is equally or

> more

> demanding. Especially since there is a cascading effect to

> everything

> realted.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tom U

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the keen insight.

>

> > From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> > Subject: Going Forward

> >

> > Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:09 AM

> > Back from the doctor. More labs ordered, blood work, sleep

> > study, etc.

> > Starting Testim 5/gm. I read the archives on Testim. Is

> > there

> > anything else I need to know? Application site preparation,

> > etc.

> >

> > Phil, you really are a benefit to the gender and the race.

> > I thought

> > my knowledge base on atril fibrillation and hemochromatosis

> > was

> > extensive. This hormone related condition is equally or

> > more

> > demanding. Especially since there is a cascading effect to

> > everything

> > realted.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Tom U

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Does this mean the LH and FSH will forever stay shut off if I stopped

supplementing?

>

> > From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> > Subject: Going Forward

> >

> > Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:09 AM

> > Back from the doctor. More labs ordered, blood work, sleep

> > study, etc.

> > Starting Testim 5/gm. I read the archives on Testim. Is

> > there

> > anything else I need to know? Application site preparation,

> > etc.

> >

> > Phil, you really are a benefit to the gender and the race.

> > I thought

> > my knowledge base on atril fibrillation and hemochromatosis

> > was

> > extensive. This hormone related condition is equally or

> > more

> > demanding. Especially since there is a cascading effect to

> > everything

> > realted.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Tom U

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

No a lot of younger men go off TRT and just do HCG to have kids. But it is not

a 100% of them. This is way we tell men to check there sperm and if it's good

have some frozen just in case. For most LH and FSH will only work as good as it

did before TRT.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> Subject: Re: Going Forward

>

> Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 1:00 AM

> Does this mean the LH and FSH will forever stay shut off if

> I stopped

> supplementing?

>

>

> >

> > > From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> > > Subject: Going Forward

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:09 AM

> > > Back from the doctor. More labs ordered, blood

> work, sleep

> > > study, etc.

> > > Starting Testim 5/gm. I read the archives on

> Testim. Is

> > > there

> > > anything else I need to know? Application site

> preparation,

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > Phil, you really are a benefit to the gender and

> the race.

> > > I thought

> > > my knowledge base on atril fibrillation and

> hemochromatosis

> > > was

> > > extensive. This hormone related condition is

> equally or

> > > more

> > > demanding. Especially since there is a cascading

> effect to

> > > everything

> > > realted.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Tom U

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >