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what size needles do you have? Are you letting the alcohol dry before you inject? <hkg0285@...> wrote: Hi everyone, I don't know if I'm the only one, but Imissed my shot yesterday and today due to it hurtingwhen I tried to inject. I have tried ice anddifferent areas, but that didn't work. Does anyonehave any tricks or any maybe numbing cream they haveused that work. I have tried ice, and squeezing thearea, but those have not work.

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I have what I think are the insulin needles, the small

ones, they have yellow on them. They are quite

small, I do let the alcohol dry before injecting.

--- Mike Ouelette <mikeyo7777@...> wrote:

> what size needles do you have? Are you letting the

> alcohol dry before you inject?

>

> <hkg0285@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone, I don't know if I'm the only one, but I

> missed my shot yesterday and today due to it hurting

> when I tried to inject. I have tried ice and

> different areas, but that didn't work. Does anyone

> have any tricks or any maybe numbing cream they have

> used that work. I have tried ice, and squeezing the

> area, but those have not work. Thanks.

>

> __________________________________________________

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I have found that I cannot inject into my thigh because of pain. Everywhere else, no pain, but I have had to just skip the thigh. Have you tried your arms? I have no pain there at all. <hkg0285@...> wrote: Hi everyone, I don't know if I'm the only one, but Imissed my shot yesterday and today due to it hurtingwhen I tried to inject. I have tried ice anddifferent areas, but that didn't work. Does anyonehave any tricks or any maybe numbing cream they haveused that work. I have tried ice, and

squeezing thearea, but those have not work. Thanks.__________________________________________________

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Has any one who self injects experienced pain at there injection site

for 4+ days? The pain is deep in the muscle; it feels like a knot or

sorta like I was punched there with every step.

Gettin Older

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There has been times when I hit a nerve and it was sore for a while. Also, the

size of the dosage can make a difference as well a the size of the needle used.

I don't think 4 days is anything to be alarmed at. You may have also knicked a

vessel the caused a small clot. Should correct itself within a week.

 

Arkansas

From: gettin_older <gettin_older@...>

Subject: Injection Site Pain

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:00 PM

Has any one who self injects experienced pain at there injection site

for 4+ days? The pain is deep in the muscle; it feels like a knot or

sorta like I was punched there with every step.

Gettin Older

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I used to experience very bad pain when I first starting giving myself

injections, as well.  Those were in the days when I used the large-gauge needles

provided by the doctor...22 or 23 gauge.  When I switched to smaller needles at

30 or 31 gauge (and short in length -- 5/16 " ), that helped a LOT.  But still,

every now and again, I'd still get the deep, muscular pains you described, and

sometimes it was accompanied by a round, reddish area.  I have been concerned

that somehow I might have given myself an infection, but the reddish areas

always cleared up after a few days.

 

I continued to experiment and found a new area I've been using lately, which for

me has been 100% pain-free (except for the pinprick at time of injection).  This

location is the back of the buttocks area, just where the gluteus meets up with

the upper thigh.  The only problem with getting shots in this spot is that it's

nearly impossible to do yourself.  It's better to have a spouse or " trusted

friend " give you the injection.  That having been said, I've been doing this

method for a year and have never had a single bit of pain from an injection.

--Davy

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> I used to experience very bad pain when I first starting giving

myself injections, as well.  Those were in the days when I used the

large-gauge needles provided by the doctor...22 or 23 gauge. 

Hi,

Yea I've switched to a 25g*1 " myself... I draw using the 23g 1.5 " on

the syringe (big hole it draws fast), then switch to the

new/sharp/smaller needle for the actual injection.

when I can find it I'm using a 450mg/ml " supertest " 'cause it cuts

injection volumn to .3ml but I haven't seen that lately (kinda like

hcg it's getting harder to get and more expensive).

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I had that a lot at first too. I also started using a 22 or 23 guage

needle to load the syringe and a 25 guage 5/8 to inject with. I've

also found that diluting the test with 10% ethyl oleate helps in 2

ways. It thins the oil so it injects easier, and it has mild anesthetic

properties. No more injection pain.

>

> >

> > I used to experience very bad pain when I first starting giving

> myself injections, as well.  Those were in the days when I used the

> large-gauge needles provided by the doctor...22 or 23 gauge. 

>

> Hi,

>

> Yea I've switched to a 25g*1 " myself... I draw using the 23g 1.5 " on

> the syringe (big hole it draws fast), then switch to the

> new/sharp/smaller needle for the actual injection.

>

> when I can find it I'm using a 450mg/ml " supertest " 'cause it cuts

> injection volumn to .3ml but I haven't seen that lately (kinda like

> hcg it's getting harder to get and more expensive).

>

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I inject with 27 g 1/2 inch and draw with 18 G 1 inch. I can draw with

the 27 but it takes longer. I only had real pain when trying to inject

on the side of my thigh; occasionally the pain was so server and

immediately that I pulled the needle quickly out but the pain would

remain for upwards of two weeks. Now I only inject on the top of my

thigh where sometimes I cannot even feel the needle at all.

Steve

Mike Lawson wrote:

> I had that a lot at first too. I also started using a 22 or 23 guage

> needle to load the syringe and a 25 guage 5/8 to inject with. I've

> also found that diluting the test with 10% ethyl oleate helps in 2

> ways. It thins the oil so it injects easier, and it has mild anesthetic

> properties. No more injection pain.

>

>>

>>> I used to experience very bad pain when I first starting giving

>> myself injections, as well. Those were in the days when I used the

>> large-gauge needles provided by the doctor...22 or 23 gauge.

>>

>> Hi,

>>

>> Yea I've switched to a 25g*1 " myself... I draw using the 23g 1.5 " on

>> the syringe (big hole it draws fast), then switch to the

>> new/sharp/smaller needle for the actual injection.

>>

>> when I can find it I'm using a 450mg/ml " supertest " 'cause it cuts

>> injection volumn to .3ml but I haven't seen that lately (kinda like

>> hcg it's getting harder to get and more expensive).

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Thinning the oil may also increase the speed of absorption. I'd be

careful. Have you talked to your doc about that?

Gettin Older

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>

> I had that a lot at first too. I also started using a 22 or 23 guage

> needle to load the syringe and a 25 guage 5/8 to inject with. I've

> also found that diluting the test with 10% ethyl oleate helps in 2

> ways. It thins the oil so it injects easier, and it has mild

anesthetic

> properties. No more injection pain.

>

>

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I thought that it was the characteristics of the ester attached

to the testosterone that controlled the half life. I'll be sure to

ask.

> >

> >

> > I had that a lot at first too. I also started using a 22 or 23 guage

> > needle to load the syringe and a 25 guage 5/8 to inject with. I've

> > also found that diluting the test with 10% ethyl oleate helps in 2

> > ways. It thins the oil so it injects easier, and it has mild

> anesthetic

> > properties. No more injection pain.

> >

> >

>

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I don't really know, that's why I suggest you ask your doc. Let us

know the results of your conversation. How do you know your 10% ethyl

oleate solution is sterile?

Gettin Older

> > >

> > >

> > > I had that a lot at first too. I also started using a 22 or 23

guage

> > > needle to load the syringe and a 25 guage 5/8 to inject with.

I've

> > > also found that diluting the test with 10% ethyl oleate helps

in 2

> > > ways. It thins the oil so it injects easier, and it has mild

> > anesthetic

> > > properties. No more injection pain.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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My doc is kind of hands off, but I did talk to my pharmacist.

Ethyl oleate is an excellent carrier for lipophilic substances

and is commonly used as a carrier for progesterone. It is

not commonly used for testosterone as it adds expense

to an already expensive commodity. I managed to get

sterile ethyl oleate from chemical supply company. Now

the only place I can find it sells it by the kilogram so I

can't really afford to restock. It is pretty much a moot

point now. My self injection technique has improved

and I hardly ever have injection site pain unless I'm

shaky when I inject. I take my thyroid meds first

thing in the morning, and have to wait 2 hours before

eating. If I wait too long to inject, I get shaky and usually

have a sore spot on my leg for a couple days.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I had that a lot at first too. I also started using a 22 or 23

> guage

> > > > needle to load the syringe and a 25 guage 5/8 to inject with.

> I've

> > > > also found that diluting the test with 10% ethyl oleate helps

> in 2

> > > > ways. It thins the oil so it injects easier, and it has mild

> > > anesthetic

> > > > properties. No more injection pain.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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