Re: high dosage organic selenium to reverse cancer

[Guest guest]

Do you have a reference for this. 7,000 micrograms of selenium per

day is considered a toxic dose. What kind of yeast was used? It is

quite rare that anyone doing alternatives for cancer uses only one

single treatment. Do you know what else was used -- if this is true?

At 11:34 AM 4/21/2010, you wrote:

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>I have heard a recovered case of late stage liver cancer by taking 7

>mg of selenium ( 100% from yeast ), going on strong after 18 years.

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>I'd like to know if there are any other cases using organic selenium

>for breast cancer spreaded to the bone, or a benign brain tumor?

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>Which brand is the best?

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>hope

[Guest guest]

" gs1 " grapeseed1@... mtien51

<<I'd like to know if there are any other cases using organic selenium for

breast cancer spreaded to the bone, or a benign brain tumor?>>

I doubt selenium's effective w/benign tumors.

>Which brand is the best?

See below:

I think selenium's extremely important for people w/cancer and for prevention.

I've read:

selenium is effective w/some leukemias, gliomas (brain cancer), GBM, skin

(including melanoma), lung, & some breast cancers, & Ehrlich ascites cells.

Increases IL-2. “Selenium stimulates the immune response….Lanfear, J., et

al., _Carcinogenesis_ 15(7) 1387-92, 1994…found that SDG [selenoglutathione]

induces apoptosis†(Passwater, 1996, p. 43).

“enhances lymphatic drainage…stops metastasis.â€

Efficacy as a cancer treatment:

“Dr. son…selenium in treating [140] terminally ill cancer

patients….some with only weeks to live were alive and well after four years,

and with no signs of symptoms of cancer…all patients…had reduction in tumor

size and pain….[some] required as much as 2,000 micrograms per day to

normalize the blood selenium levels….no signs of toxicity were observed in any

patients….vitamins A, C and E---were also used….Dr. son administered

selenium as a nutritional adjunct to Conventional therapy to over 100

patients…generally did much better than expected…of eight patients with

inoperable lung cancer, four were alive and well one year later…Normally, all

eight would have been expected to have died….He would adjust the selenium

supplementation to produce normal blood selenium levels which often did not

occur until 900 to 2000 micrograms per day were given†(Passwater, 1996, pp.

29-30; also reported in Passwater [1983] _Cancer and Its Nutritional

Therapies_).

“I have acquired a fondness for selenium and find myself using it moreâ€

Gammill.

“current research in doing the same thing by heating powdered selenium with

FSO [flaxseed oil] to treat cancer†Gammill, 1/28/09 [but don’t heat the

FSO].

Interaction w/Other Therapies: Synergistic w/vit. E (so take them together) and

indoles (cruciferous vegetables). “Do not take at the same time as vitamin C,

as vitamin C interferes with the absorption of selenium†(Chamberlain, 2008).

With some ovarian cancer procotols, it may be best to avoid selenium, because

" with ovarian cancer you want to deplete selenium and increase nitric oxide

precursors because you want the cytotoxic capabilities of hydrogen peroxide "

(Gammill, 6/16/00; www./group/cures for cancer/message/8413). However,

“selenium…reduce bone marrow suppression and nephrotoxicity in women

being treated for ovarian cancer with cisplatin….The higher the patient's

selenium levels, the longer they tend to stay in remission….[selenium]

prevents drug resistance [MDR] [and] increases the therapeutic effect on

cancer†www.denvernaturopathic.com (Selenium, Ovarian Cancer and Chemotherapy:

8/16/04); “can partially reverse MDRâ€

(www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/multidrugresistance.html)

Dosage: Schachter says most cancer patients can take 400-600mcg. I've seen up

to 1mg recommended. “Organic forms of selenium are toxic at levels…of 3,500

micrograms†(Passwater, 1996, p. 47). " There are people using selenium as a

sole cancer treatment in which they are using 5,500 mg/day " (Gammill, 8/16/08).

Dr. Munoz (sdiegoclinic.com) uses 1200mcg IV. Yance lists 200-800mcg. I’d seek

medical supervision if taking more than about 800mcg. “Some populations

average about 600 micrograms and more per day†(Passwater, 1996, p. 47).

Forms of Selenium: Use an organic form (NOT sodium selenite or selenate

[Passwater, 1996, pp. 45-47], which can be toxic). " Best form of selenium for

fighting all types of cancer may be Se-methylselenocysteine, or SeMSC [or

SeMC]...90% less toxic, than any other known form of selenium...33% better

reduction of cancerous lesions…Induce apoptosis...Reduce intratumoral

microvessel density and angiogenesis. Down-regulate...VEGF " LEF.org, 2006.

“The `D-’ forms…are only about one-fifth as bioavailable as the `L-‘

forms†(Passwater, 1996, p. 46). G-glutamyl-methylselenocysteine's much better

than L-Selenomethionine, but I don't think it's commercially available as of

2008.

Brands—If money’s not an issue, I’d use " E And Selenium DailyFoods "

by www.affordable-Megafood.com or

www.newchapter.com/products/selenium-food-complex

Jarrow.com (affordable) makes SeMSC.

For prevention, taking about 200mcg of selenium reduces cancer incidence by

about 40%.

Leonard

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the detailed reply. Will selenium outperform PolyMVA for breast

cancer spreaded to the bone?

" 5,500 mg/day " (Gammill, 8/16/08 "

Is this possibly a typo?

[Guest guest]

> " 5,500 mg/day " (Gammill, 8/16/08 "

> Is this possibly a typo?

YES. I'm sure he meant mcg (MICROgrams).

Still, I would NOT take more than about 800mcg w/o medical supervision.

[Guest guest]

Yes, micrograms. Still, a startlingly high amount.

At 08:46 AM 4/24/2010, you wrote:

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> > " 5,500 mg/day " (Gammill, 8/16/08 "

> > Is this possibly a typo?

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>YES. I'm sure he meant mcg (MICROgrams).

>Still, I would NOT take more than about 800mcg w/o medical supervision.

[Guest guest]

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What is a good source of organic selenium. Is this better than

methyl-selenocysteine? Also, will taking 200mcg SE-Methyl-selenocysteine

everyday be harmful? My husband has been taking this for the past two years.

Thanks

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> > > " 5,500 mg/day " (Gammill, 8/16/08 "

> > > Is this possibly a typo?

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> >YES. I'm sure he meant mcg (MICROgrams).

> >Still, I would NOT take more than about 800mcg w/o medical supervision.

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[Guest guest]

Brazil nuts are the highest botanical source.

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