Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I just got my labs back today and they are not good. I have had a sore prostate since about 8-13 after starting on testosterone.2 mg and progesterone.8 mg on 7-20. Thats only about 3 weeks. These are troches and have worked well for many others. I took a Chinese cure for infection as well as a short round of antibiotics which have not helped the soreness of the prostate. I stopped the troches on 8-26 but the damage seems to be done. I was on quercetin Plus from 4-25-08 until 5-09-09 starting with 3 capsules three times a day and slowly tapered down to one capsule every 2nd day(two a week). My PSA dropped from 130 to .2 on 5-1-09 I stopped the Quercetin Plus on 5-09-09 and started on the testosterone troches on 7-20-09 My labs PSA Test-total Test Free Estrogen Progesterone (all blood serum tests) 5-1-09 .2 16 6-26-09 7.1 286 18.9 9-10-09 41 260 23.4 177 ..6 I have a doctors appointment next week but she does not have a clue and does most everything I ask her. I have some Quercetin Plus and am wondering if I should take some of that to knock down this prostate swelling and pain. It appears as though the troches are not good or the ratio is way off. Has anyone had similar problems? My pain threshold is high but it takes 4 ibuprofin to sleep at night and I certainly don't like to keep that up. Ed Hale Tampa Bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 > > I just got my labs back today and they are not good. > I have had a sore prostate since about 8-13 after starting on testosterone.2 mg and progesterone.8 mg on 7-20. Thats only about 3 weeks. These are troches and have worked well for many others. > > I took a Chinese cure for infection as well as a short round of antibiotics which have not helped the soreness of the prostate. > > I stopped the troches on 8-26 but the damage seems to be done. > > I was on quercetin Plus from 4-25-08 until 5-09-09 starting with 3 capsules three times a day and slowly tapered down to one capsule every 2nd day(two a week). My PSA dropped from 130 to .2 on 5-1-09 > > I stopped the Quercetin Plus on 5-09-09 and started on the testosterone troches on 7-20-09 > > My labs PSA Test-total Test Free Estrogen Progesterone (all blood serum tests) > > 5-1-09 .2 16 > 6-26-09 7.1 286 18.9 > 9-10-09 41 260 23.4 177 ..6 > > I have a doctors appointment next week but she does not have a clue and does most everything I ask her. I have some Quercetin Plus and am wondering if I should take some of that to knock down this prostate swelling and pain. It appears as though the troches are not good or the ratio is way off. > Has anyone had similar problems? My pain threshold is high but it takes 4 ibuprofin to sleep at night and I certainly don't like to keep that up. > > Ed Hale Tampa Bay > > > i have what the doctor calls a very large prostate--where do you feel the pain? this may sound stupid --but do you feel it in the lower back ?- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Hi Ed sorry your having this problem I myself would not take Progesterone it is a feminizing hormone even Dr. says men should not take this but they should take Pregnenolone Cream. Without a script from your Dr. for this compounded this is what I have found. http://www.vitaminusa.com/prbocr2ozbyl.html I would stop the Troches this are not working your levels are still every low and it has drove up your Estrogen levels. Yet you need to test your Estradiol levels get a Quest labs #4021 test the range is 13 to 54 pg/ml your best level to be at is about 20 pg/ml if your SHBG is not to low. You need to stop and start over on this doing Androgel, Testim, or Depo Testosterone shots starting at 100 mgs / week. If you had sex 24 hrs before your PSA labs this can make it show high. I have has labs for PSA come back like this and it was after having sex. I have had some dam high levels of Estradiol and it never changed my PSA levels. But the high Estradiol gave me BPH and a low pain in my prostate. I even had sugary on it I call it a Ream Job. This only helped for a yr then the problems were back on bladder infection after the other. One thing that helped was Cranberry Tabs this helped to keep the infection down. http://www.myvitanet.com/cranplustab9.html But it was getting my Estradiol level down on Arimidex that gave me relief and later my Prostate when back down in size to a normal size for my age. For some men high levels of Estradiol drive there prostate nuts. I had this problem for over 10 yrs nothing helped I even was on a BP med Hytrin to help me void. My pain from infections going into my kidney's was so bad Dr. had to give me pain pills. I am worried about your high levels of PSA but feel something your doing is driving this up still you need to see a Uro and have your prostate checked out I did this when my levels went this high. They found nothing no cancer and this was load off my mind. So these labs if you switch to gels or shots in about 6 to 8 weeks but do test your Estradiol now. Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Ed Hale <litepilot84@...> > Subject: Re: PSA up-Estrogen up > > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 7:10 PM > I just got my labs back today and > they are not good. > I have had a sore prostate since about 8-13 after starting > on testosterone.2 mg and progesterone.8 mg on 7-20. > Thats only about 3 weeks. These are troches and have > worked well for many others. > > I took a Chinese cure for infection as well as a short > round of antibiotics which have not helped the soreness of > the prostate. > > I stopped the troches on 8-26 but the damage seems to be > done. > > I was on quercetin Plus from 4-25-08 until 5-09-09 starting > with 3 capsules three times a day and slowly tapered down to > one capsule every 2nd day(two a week). My PSA dropped > from 130 to .2 on 5-1-09 > > I stopped the Quercetin Plus on 5-09-09 and started on the > testosterone troches on 7-20-09 > > My labs PSA > Test-total Test Free > Estrogen > Progesterone (all blood serum > tests) > > 5-1-09 .2 > > 16 > > 6-26-09 7.1 > 286 > 18.9 > > 9-10-09 41 > 260 > 23.4 > 177 > > .6 > > I have a doctors appointment next week but she does not > have a clue and does most everything I ask her. > I have some Quercetin Plus and am wondering if I should take > some of that to knock down this prostate swelling and > pain. It appears as though the troches are not good or > the ratio is way off. > Has anyone had similar problems? My > pain threshold is high but it takes 4 ibuprofin to sleep at > night and I certainly don't like to keep that up. > > Ed Hale Tampa Bay > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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