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> I am 25 year old. I was diagnosed with Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism

> at the age of 18 after no signs of puberty through my teen years. My

> doctor put me on TRT which helped me grow facial hair, get a bit of

> muscle mass and made my testis a little bit bigger (from 3ml each to

> 7ml after 2-3 years on TRT)

Hi,

a quick question... 3ml to 7ml of what? 7ml of test is a HUGE dose

even for monthly (not recommended) shots.

> Between 22-24 years of my age, I got so sick of taking injections

> every other week that I completely stopped the TRT

assuming you're talking about test...

most here do them weekly, self injecting, not hard to do.

I use a 1 " 25g needle and inject into my thigh once a week.

> My lab results before going on TRT were:

> TSH: 2.2uIU/mL (range: 0.2 - 5.5)

> FSH: 1.4mIU/mL (range: 1.4 - 18.1)

> LH: 1.2mIU/mL (range: 1.0 - 12.0)

> Free T: 4.8pg/mL (range: 35.0 - 155.0 )

> Total T: 40ng/dL (range: 250 - 1100)

>

> My height is 5'10 " and I weigh 145 lbs.

I'm 5'10 " and weigh 190#.

> 1. I would like to know if taking Growth Hormone will help me at

> this age to gain puberty.

what do you mean by " gain puberty " ?

if you mean get taller probably no, your first round of test would

have closed the growing ends of your bones... and you're 5'10 " which

outside the NBA is a perfectly reasonable height for a man.

> Will any doctor in CA prescribe me that?

yes, operative word " any " . I'm sure there is a doctor in california

who'll prescribe you ANYTHING, regardless of if it will help.

> 2. I have also been reading a lot about HCG which supplements LH in

> the body and helps regain testicular function to some extend.

a lot of us do tiny injections of hcg a couple of times a week to keep

the testicles working at least a little bit... I don't think anybody

is doing JUST hcg.

> 3. Doctors? I am in Bay area, California. My doctor doesn't seem to

> know about this condition much. He didn't even bother to educate me

> or tell me the benefits of HCG. The only solution according to him

> was to be on TRT.

a lot of docs " assume " the patient is stupid and incapable of

understanding.

that doesn't mean that TRT isn't the best option for you.

I know I feel a LOT better on TRT. I know I'm cutting fat and putting

on muscle on TRT. I know that after you get the hang of it THE weekly

shot isn't a bad big deal (though my girlfriend always likes to know

when I do my shot (thursday most of the time so I'm hot to go

friday/saturday/sunday when we've got a little extra time ;-}))

besides a weekly shot of test you'll probably want to get the doc to

prescribe a little arimidex (1/4 tab eod is common).

that combo, along with protein, calories, and exercise will put muscle

and all those secondary sexual characteristics you're probably missing

out on.

ttyl

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Thanks .

By " puberty " , I meant secondary sexual characteristics such as facial hair,

size of testicles, libido.

You are right about first round of testosterone closing growing ends of my

bones. It did that. During that time, I gained around 4 inches in height.

But how about secondary sexual characteristics? Could going on Growth

Hormone help in that regard?

I would greatly appreciate if any of you could give me recommendations for a

good Endo in Northern CA. My current doctor didn't start me on Arimidex or

test my E level even after I asked for it.

Thanks,

- LK.

On Jan 8, 2008 9:31 AM, <legrandchat@...> wrote:

>

>

> > I am 25 year old. I was diagnosed with Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism

> > at the age of 18 after no signs of puberty through my teen years. My

> > doctor put me on TRT which helped me grow facial hair, get a bit of

> > muscle mass and made my testis a little bit bigger (from 3ml each to

> > 7ml after 2-3 years on TRT)

>

> Hi,

>

> a quick question... 3ml to 7ml of what? 7ml of test is a HUGE dose

> even for monthly (not recommended) shots.

>

> > Between 22-24 years of my age, I got so sick of taking injections

> > every other week that I completely stopped the TRT

>

> assuming you're talking about test...

>

> most here do them weekly, self injecting, not hard to do.

>

> I use a 1 " 25g needle and inject into my thigh once a week.

>

> > My lab results before going on TRT were:

> > TSH: 2.2uIU/mL (range: 0.2 - 5.5)

> > FSH: 1.4mIU/mL (range: 1.4 - 18.1)

> > LH: 1.2mIU/mL (range: 1.0 - 12.0)

> > Free T: 4.8pg/mL (range: 35.0 - 155.0 )

> > Total T: 40ng/dL (range: 250 - 1100)

> >

> > My height is 5'10 " and I weigh 145 lbs.

>

> I'm 5'10 " and weigh 190#.

>

> > 1. I would like to know if taking Growth Hormone will help me at

> > this age to gain puberty.

>

> what do you mean by " gain puberty " ?

>

> if you mean get taller probably no, your first round of test would

> have closed the growing ends of your bones... and you're 5'10 " which

> outside the NBA is a perfectly reasonable height for a man.

>

> > Will any doctor in CA prescribe me that?

>

> yes, operative word " any " . I'm sure there is a doctor in california

> who'll prescribe you ANYTHING, regardless of if it will help.

>

> > 2. I have also been reading a lot about HCG which supplements LH in

> > the body and helps regain testicular function to some extend.

>

> a lot of us do tiny injections of hcg a couple of times a week to keep

> the testicles working at least a little bit... I don't think anybody

> is doing JUST hcg.

>

> > 3. Doctors? I am in Bay area, California. My doctor doesn't seem to

> > know about this condition much. He didn't even bother to educate me

> > or tell me the benefits of HCG. The only solution according to him

> > was to be on TRT.

>

> a lot of docs " assume " the patient is stupid and incapable of

> understanding.

>

> that doesn't mean that TRT isn't the best option for you.

>

> I know I feel a LOT better on TRT. I know I'm cutting fat and putting

> on muscle on TRT. I know that after you get the hang of it THE weekly

> shot isn't a bad big deal (though my girlfriend always likes to know

> when I do my shot (thursday most of the time so I'm hot to go

> friday/saturday/sunday when we've got a little extra time ;-}))

>

> besides a weekly shot of test you'll probably want to get the doc to

> prescribe a little arimidex (1/4 tab eod is common).

>

> that combo, along with protein, calories, and exercise will put muscle

> and all those secondary sexual characteristics you're probably missing

> out on.

>

> ttyl

>

>

>

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