Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 , I noticed that you mentioned about the walls of the GB thickening. On my last Ultrasound, the doctor said that the walls of my GB appear to have some thickening. What does this mean? Thanks, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Susie, I didn't mention that, that was in a reply someone wrote to me giving me a lot of advise , I must have looked at the message wrong then. I wasn't talking about you anyway having the thickening wall to your GB, but I thought that you might know what it means. I've just had a response from someone about it, though, and it may be nothing to worry about, that it usually happens when there's congestion and once the congestion gets taken care of, it will go back to normal. Thanks, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 > , > I noticed that you mentioned about the walls of the GB thickening. On my > last Ultrasound, the doctor said that the walls of my GB appear to have some > thickening. What does this mean? > > Thanks, > Susie Susie, I didn't mention that, that was in a reply someone wrote to me giving me a lot of advise. When I had my ultrasound 2 years ago, my liver and gallbladder walls, ducts were fine, just stones, this time she didn't mention the walls of GB, and it looked to be the same size to me, but quite a few stones. In reply to someone elses question re why I don't flush a lot, because over the past few years, I've had to be available to help with a number of family issues...Dad down with a stroke, Mom with no drivers license and handicapped brother living with them, and my daughter suddenly deciding to leave home. Lots of stuff and no time to just lay around flushing. Don't like to do cleanses when my body is stressed. Things have slowed down just a bit since the beginning of the year, so trying to find more time to take care of me. If I ever have my GB taken out, it won't be because I don't think flushes work, I've done them for years and they do, it will be because I need to focus my time and energies on other things than myself and a gallbladder that will probably always make stones, more time helping with more important things. L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech HerBulletin Health Analyzer: http://www.mynsp.com/web/meydrech/healthAnalyzer.jsp mailto:claudiameydrech@... " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 , I was also going to say that you are definitely carrying a lot of burdens. I do feel for you. I guess we all have some of our on, it's just that yours are kind of loaded up right now. I do hope things get better for you. Take care, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 > , > I was also going to say that you are definitely carrying a lot of burdens. I > do feel for you. I guess we all have some of our on, it's just that yours > are kind of loaded up right now. I do hope things get better for you. > Take care, > Susie Thank you Susie, yes, " loaded up " is a good term for it, and am enjoying somewhat a lull, but you never know when the phone will ring. I'm just so thankful for my faith and knowing the God doesn't let anything come into our lives unless it has His " okay " ...that's kind of hard to understand when it seems like the things He is allowing are bad, but I am learning a lot about patience, trusting, etc., and this isn't heaven yet :-) Good learning experiences. Thanks again for your kind words. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 What is meant by " congestion " ? Does that mean the gallbladder is full of stones etc.? A year ago when I had my ultrasound I was told that, along with my large stone I had a thickening of one wall of the gallbladder, but it was still within the upper levels of normal. According to the doctor it was caused by the stone. I assume it will be like that until I get rid of the stone. Would flushing itself help to lessen the thickening even if the stone still remains (hopefully it's shrinking with diet, supplements etc.)? I worry on occasions, about it getting worse. AMDG, Colleen K. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tishri7@... gallstones Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: Re: question for Susie, I didn't mention that, that was in a reply someone wrote to me giving me a lot of advise , I must have looked at the message wrong then. I wasn't talking about you anyway having the thickening wall to your GB, but I thought that you might know what it means. I've just had a response from someone about it, though, and it may be nothing to worry about, that it usually happens when there's congestion and once the congestion gets taken care of, it will go back to normal. Thanks, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 What is meant by " congestion " ? Does that mean the gallbladder is full of stones etc.? A year ago when I had my ultrasound I was told that, along with my large stone I had a thickening of one wall of the gallbladder, but it was still within the upper levels of normal. Hello, Colleen, Yes, when you're congested, that means the bile can't flow like it should. My two small stones would get at the neck of my GB and I'd get an attack. So it would make my GB congested. The cleanses help your bile flow so you're no longer congested and that bile can flow. Even if you have your GB removed, you're still stuck with doing the cleanses. Here is what I've been studying lately. One in 10 people have gallstones in their GB. Everyone that has gallstones in their GB ALWAYS has them in their liver, from hundreds to thousands. But 95 percent of people have them in their liver, even if they don't have anything in their GB. That's an extremely high percentage. Another point. Actually the ones in your liver are more deadly in the long run because they cause a host of medical problems. Even heart disease or cause liver destruction. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 > Susie, Can I just ask where you got this info? I have been trying to get > the > Drs to admit they are in the liver and they just wont.I would like some > proof if you have it. > I've been reading s Moritz book entitled " The Amazing Liver Cleanse. " I bought his e-book. It's $4.95. Here is the website: <A HREF= " http://www.ener-chi.com/more_liv.htm " > http://www.ener-chi.com/more_liv.htm</A> But let me also state that your GB is not a large organ. It's rather small. When you do cleanses, you get much more out that what a small organ like a GB could ever hold. So where does it all come from? There was a lady on here a couple of years ago from England named Jane. She said that she had her GB removed 12 years ago and was fine all that time and then all of a sudden she started having gallbladder attacks!!! Come to find out, she was full of liver stones. She started doing the cleanses and was passing tons of stones. Yes, there are gallstones in our livers. That's where most of them come from. If a doctor would do a cleanse, he'd quickly figure that out. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Susie, Can I just ask where you got this info? I have been trying to get the Drs to admit they are in the liver and they just wont.I would like some proof if you have it. >From: Tishri7@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: question for >Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 11:02:49 EDT > >What is meant by " congestion " ? Does that mean the gallbladder is full of >stones etc.? A year ago when I had my ultrasound I was told that, along >with my >large stone I had a thickening of one wall of the gallbladder, but it was >still >within the upper levels of normal. > > >Hello, Colleen, >Yes, when you're congested, that means the bile can't flow like it should. >My two small stones would get at the neck of my GB and I'd get an attack. >So >it would make my GB congested. The cleanses help your bile flow so you're >no >longer congested and that bile can flow. Even if you have your GB removed, >you're still stuck with doing the cleanses. Here is what I've been >studying >lately. One in 10 people have gallstones in their GB. Everyone that has >gallstones in their GB ALWAYS has them in their liver, from hundreds to >thousands. >But 95 percent of people have them in their liver, even if they don't have >anything in their GB. That's an extremely high percentage. > >Another point. Actually the ones in your liver are more deadly in the long >run because they cause a host of medical problems. Even heart disease or >cause >liver destruction. > >Susie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Susie, I wasnt trying to disagree with you about the liver having stones I am well aware that it does. That is fine. I didn't think that you were. I can't actually prove to anyone that my liver is full of stones. Perhaps some tests would do it. And I'm just one person doing this passing tons upon tons of stones. I know the GB is small. There is no earthly way that a small organ can have that many stones. Since my ultrasound in April, I had just two stones in my GB, but when I cleansed last Saturday, I passed tons of small dark green stones. Not only was my GB sore as heck, but my liver was sore as heck. My last ultrasound was in Dec. 1999 before I started cleansing. I had many small stones in my GB at that time. I don't have a count on them, though. Now, if some doctor wanted to test all this, they surely could. One must ask why don't they at least try to prove it or disprove it, either way. If they'd get someone who's going to do a cleanse, monitor them, maybe hook up the ultrasound machine on them after they drink the olive oil/grapefruit, maybe they could see something working in there. It would be interesting!!! They could probably see stuff from the liver exiting, I would think. Maybe there's some doctor brave enough somewhere to do this. Another thing. I can't tell anyone what to do. I can only suggest something. What works for one person may not work for the next person. People even need different diets. This is what this board is about, sharing information and what happens. Take care, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Susie, I wasnt trying to disagree with you about the liver having stones I am well aware that it does. You just said that you did some studying or something I was just wondering what proof you had that I could show the dr, because I too have had gb attacks after surgery, I told the dr and she wanted to do ERCP because she thought I had stones left in the bile duct, but i told her that the surgeon cleaned out the stones that were in the bile duct and she was confused. I told her I wasnt going to have her stick a tube down my throat every 5 minutes to clean out the bile duct. She said it was very rare to still produce stones after surgery. It really pisses me off because if that is true then why do so many people still have atacks, she said they dont. so I must know all of the " rare " people. I told her just because it is rare doesnt mean that you just shrug it off. It was supposedly rare for someone my age and weight to have gall stones in the first place and thats why I went through months of agony with them just telling me I had heartburn, they wouldnt even check the gallbladder. Sorry to rant but I still get pissed of about it!! thanks for the link!! >From: Tishri7@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: question for >Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 11:47:20 EDT > > > > Susie, Can I just ask where you got this info? I have been trying to get > > the > > Drs to admit they are in the liver and they just wont.I would like some > > proof if you have it. > > > > >I've been reading s Moritz book entitled " The Amazing Liver Cleanse. " >I bought his e-book. It's $4.95. Here is the website: <A >HREF= " http://www.ener-chi.com/more_liv.htm " > >http://www.ener-chi.com/more_liv.htm</A> > >But let me also state that your GB is not a large organ. It's rather >small. >When you do cleanses, you get much more out that what a small organ like a >GB >could ever hold. So where does it all come from? > >There was a lady on here a couple of years ago from England named Jane. >She >said that she had her GB removed 12 years ago and was fine all that time >and >then all of a sudden she started having gallbladder attacks!!! Come to >find >out, she was full of liver stones. She started doing the cleanses and was >passing tons of stones. > >Yes, there are gallstones in our livers. That's where most of them come >from. If a doctor would do a cleanse, he'd quickly figure that out. > >Susie > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Thanks for you response, Susie. Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: Tishri7@... gallstones Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Re: question for What is meant by " congestion " ? Does that mean the gallbladder is full of stones etc.? A year ago when I had my ultrasound I was told that, along with my large stone I had a thickening of one wall of the gallbladder, but it was still within the upper levels of normal. Hello, Colleen, Yes, when you're congested, that means the bile can't flow like it should. My two small stones would get at the neck of my GB and I'd get an attack. So it would make my GB congested. The cleanses help your bile flow so you're no longer congested and that bile can flow. Even if you have your GB removed, you're still stuck with doing the cleanses. Here is what I've been studying lately. One in 10 people have gallstones in their GB. Everyone that has gallstones in their GB ALWAYS has them in their liver, from hundreds to thousands. But 95 percent of people have them in their liver, even if they don't have anything in their GB. That's an extremely high percentage. Another point. Actually the ones in your liver are more deadly in the long run because they cause a host of medical problems. Even heart disease or cause liver destruction. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 yes it matters if you call it an allergy or a toxin Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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