Re: Testing times

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:07:51 -0000, you wrote:

>First of all. wouldn't these hormones would be highest and most accurate to

test at 8:00 in the morning. Wouldn't this be a more accurate time to test them?

That would be true for natural production. But when you are taking T

your natural production shuts downa nd all the T is from outside. Time

of day does not matter any more.

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>Second, wouldn't me taking oral cortisol mess up the readings for cortisol

whenever I had the blood drawn anyway?

Maybe he wants to find whaat level the oral cortisol is taking you

too?

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>Third, would the oral cortisol effect any of the other lab results like DHEA?

I don't know.

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>Fourth, what would happen if I had all of my bloodwork tested in the afternoon

around 3:30 pm or so? Would the labs be of any value?

I should think this doesn't matter given you are taking T and cortisol

and your natural rythyms for these are gone.

[Guest guest]

No do what your Dr. says he is right your levels peak for the first 4 hrs after

doing gels or creams. And testing Cortisol on HC meds tells your Dr. if your

doing to much HC and shutting down your Adreanls to far all you want to do is

support them so they can heal. Most do HC 5mgs 4x's a day don't know what your

taking but even glands will support adreanls to a small point. So if your fist

test was say 15 for a morning fasting Cortiol test not on any cortisol meds.

Taking your HC or Supplements should come back at some level say 12 this tells

your Dr. your not taking to much and your adreanls are still making cortisol. A

lot of people on HC doing 5mgs 4x's a day don't feel great and there test after

taking there HC comes back 12 or higher this means a lot of the HC is getting

killed in the stomach. So they do more like myself I do 30 mgs total a day

starting with 10mgs at 5am then 5mgs at 9am and 10 mgs at 1pm then 5mgs at 6pm.

So the Cortisol

meds your taking will not change your levels.

Don't test your Estradiol with the Ultra. Test from Quest it's not working right

and a dam lot of men are getting levels back at <2 not even on anything to lower

it. My last test we did both the Ultra and Sentive Test on the same blood draw.

My Ultra test range <29 came back at 10 the Sentive test #4021 range 13 to 54

pg/ml came back to high 36 so my Dr. called them and they told him they were

having trouble with the Ultra. test. I did well doing the old test and on the

forums men were thinking they were to low and were to high this messed them up

big time so no one is doing the Ultra test.

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Phil

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Phil

> From: mikechfs2009 <MikeChfs2009@...>

> Subject: Testing times

>

> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 5:07 PM

> As I stated in an earlier post I have

> a man in his 20's who has just started on TRT. My dosage is

> 100 mg 2x a day of compounded gel. I usually take the a.m

> dose a little after 9:00 and the p.m. dose around 8:00. My

> doctor wanted me to go in and test DHEA, Testosterone

> F & T, DHT, Androstenedione and Cortisol (AM). He agreed

> to add on the Estradiol ultrasensitive as well.

>

> He wants me to test all of these hormones 6-8 hours after I

> have taken my a.m. dose of testosterone. I also take

> cortisol at about 8:45 am and again at about 11:50 am.

>

> First of all. wouldn't these hormones would be highest and

> most accurate to test at 8:00 in the morning. Wouldn't this

> be a more accurate time to test them?

>

> Second, wouldn't me taking oral cortisol mess up the

> readings for cortisol whenever I had the blood drawn

> anyway?

>

> Third, would the oral cortisol effect any of the other lab

> results like DHEA?

>

> Fourth, what would happen if I had all of my bloodwork

> tested in the afternoon around 3:30 pm or so? Would the labs

> be of any value?

>

> Thanks alot for anyone's help in advance.

>

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