Re: Just a little observation on other groups.

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skywalker45_99 wrote:

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> After reading stuff like I read yesterday it's no wonder some docs

> don't even want to prescribe TRT when they know that it can lead right

> down the road to rabid anti-aging philosophies that can be dangerous,

> expensive, and experimental for the most part.

And yet, it's these same people that are paving the road for the rest of

us. Let them use whatever " rabid " anti-aging options that spring up and

then I'll follow and take advantage of the ones that appear to work.

Testosterone is one such option I've taken advantage of as well as HCG.

Others no doubt I'll try in the future.

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I don't disagree with you Steve but it really confuses those who are

new to TRT.

>

> >

> > After reading stuff like I read yesterday it's no wonder some docs

> > don't even want to prescribe TRT when they know that it can lead right

> > down the road to rabid anti-aging philosophies that can be dangerous,

> > expensive, and experimental for the most part.

>

> And yet, it's these same people that are paving the road for the

rest of

> us. Let them use whatever " rabid " anti-aging options that spring up

and

> then I'll follow and take advantage of the ones that appear to work.

> Testosterone is one such option I've taken advantage of as well as HCG.

> Others no doubt I'll try in the future.

>

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> Steve - dudescholar4@...

>

> Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

> http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

>

> " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

> to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

>

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>

> Believe me that I would want to be the very last person to create any

> animosity at all in our group or in any other group on the internet

> but I've begun to notice what I consider a very problematic issue with

> HRT for men groups. There are many men who come to these forums who

> are new to TRT/HRT and have many questions and we, to the best of our

> ability, help them with very troubling issues that men face.

>

> I was reading a post yesterday on another forum where a man, new to

> TRT, had asked a very simple question about what was better, shots or

> gels. The topic got out of hand and the next thing you knew this poor

> guy was being told to go to a doc and get GHRH and Sermorelin and some

> other IGF-1 enhancer and a whole bunch of arimidex, etc. It was pretty

> crazy in my opinion because this man left much more confused than he

> already was. I felt sorry for him.

>

> For the record, in my opinion, HRT for men consists of the following:

>

> Optimize T levels

> Optimize DHT levels

> Control E2 levels and maintain a youthful T to E2 ratio

>

> And to be able to do all the above with the least side effects at all

> and ideally no side effects. All returning the man his sex drive and

> ability to achieve and maintain erections, stregth, muscle mass and to

> stave off diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.

>

> Testosterone IS an anti-aging hormone and it's cheap! The ideas that

> some men are getting would cost thousands of dollars a year and are

> unproven in the long term. I just think sticking to the basics is best

> especially with guys who don't understand and likely don't need any of

> the rest.

>

> After reading stuff like I read yesterday it's no wonder some docs

> don't even want to prescribe TRT when they know that it can lead right

> down the road to rabid anti-aging philosophies that can be dangerous,

> expensive, and experimental for the most part.

>

> I'm terribly sorry if I've offended anyone with this post but I'm

> tired of everything except Testosterone being part of TRT/HRT!

>

You deserve a round of applause for this: you've said something that

many people around here clearly think, but probably prefer not to

articulate. One of the big problems we have is that we share an

interest - i.e. TRT - with the guys who use steroids for aesthetic

self-enhancement - or in other words, body-building and/or

anti-ageing. The upshot is that much of the advice - be it from

doctors or laypersons - which is given on this and other websites is

highly confusing, mostly because a large proportion of it emanates

from the body-building/anti-ageing fraternity. It's a minefield out

there and we all need to tread carefully. But you've definitely hit

the nail on the head and no mistake.